PacMan's Corner

[uaeboy25]

anyway i respect the judge rather than donaire. why?the judge is closer than donaire. they watch a lot of boxing matches. they are judge for boxing long time ago even donaire(the commentator) is not yet even born. they are reliable and if they are not reliable they will not be choosen by any sunctioning bodies.

they are way much better in scoring than any one of us.

Edited March 18, 2008 by uaeboy25

[denizgonzalez]

yes thats what i can say, lets just respect the decision. thats what i said in this forums way back page 154 i think. i jst say that i had marquez winning by 1 point and an angry pacman fan came flaming me ^^

 

anyway

 

@djrs

uulitin ko po, nasa ref ang decision kung tatawagin nyang down ang paghawak sa ropes while going down or hindi. minsan nga kahit hindi humawak sa ropes e, kahit nakatayo pa binibilangan nang down. kc alam ng ref na unconcious na ung fighter.

 

and nope, nd po puro si donaire at trinidad ang pinapakinggan ko. i made my score card on my own, and narinig ko nlng na pareho pala kami ng score card ni donaire.

 

im jst saying that even donaire, a champion scored it for maquez leading by 1 point. to show that even some experts say that marquez won, not just me ^^ and yeah i also respect the side that says that pacman won because as i said, over and over again. we cant be certain, even the judges. because it is really close. decision goes to pacman and thats the end.

 

why cant we all jst say that both men won?

 

i dont even know why are u so mad at me, when i've just stated my opinion lol

 

anyway heres my scorecard. just want to show it, not to make anymore pacman fan mad. lol

 

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12

 

Pac 9 9 10 10 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 9

 

Mar 10 10 8 9 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 10

 

again i respect the decision that pacman won. i think they both won cuz they showed alot of heart, determiination and will to win. and a very close fight that others find it wothy to risk their blood pressure getting high for lol

 

and im happy that pacman won cuz im a pacman fan too. but dnt group me with the biased ones =)

Edited March 18, 2008 by Fright

[uaeboy25]

ang problem kasi gusto nating lahat marinig tayo. though mali ang reaction ng iba. ive recieved some post, ive read their blogs. merong sinabi na robbed daw ang titulo ni marquez. ive even explain it to him one by one how pacman win. the truth hindi nya kasalanan yun although mali ang ginawa nya. imagine napost nya yun sa blog nya at kinukwestyon nya ang panalo ni pacman, filipino sya. its a social culture na ng pinoy. that guy just tried to be bibo. tapos sumagot sya sa reply ko na aunofficial at inamin nya na ang scoring nya based sa judgment nya. may god i accept his opinion pero may responsibility tayo sa posting.

 

if we post based on our opinion accept natin ang opinion ng iba sa napost natin. nakakahiya ang blog nya kasi hindi bilang kababayan natin si pacquiao. pero mahirap pagbintangan na nandaya si pacman in the 1st place from round 1-12 wala akong nakitang pandaraya sa side ni pacman. wag na nating ipilit na nanalo si marquez. if he is the real winner dapat tinapatan nya ang laro ni pacman. staying from round 1-12 is not a convincing victory if marquez won. nireplay nya lang ang laro ni barrera-pacquiao 2.

[beastmode]

Baka naman kasi "feel" lang ni Marquez humawak sa ropes nun kaya kahit hindi siya tamaan ng punch ni Pacquiao kakapit talaga siya dun or baka balak niya i-619 (ala Rey Mysterio) si Pacquiao (naging luchador bigla). Pero kung di siya kumapit that time, ano kaya mangyayari?

[denizgonzalez]

Baka naman kasi "feel" lang ni Marquez humawak sa ropes nun kaya kahit hindi siya tamaan ng punch ni Pacquiao kakapit talaga siya dun or baka balak niya i-619 (ala Rey Mysterio) si Pacquiao (naging luchador bigla). Pero kung di siya kumapit that time, ano kaya mangyayari?

lmao

 

definitely it would be a down if the ropes werent there, left right combination from the hardest puncher in the division would knock down any fighter in that position

 

a 619 would be really funny though lol

[id6230]

We can all put in all our opinions and it will never end. That is why their are judges and they make the final say. End of story.

[uaeboy25]

yes. the only thing we can blame is the pacman-marquez 1. kung tama lang ang scoring nung round 1 hindi magkakaroon ng draw. and declared winner si pacman nun. and kung nanalo sya ngayon ang tanong sa kumukwestyon sa panalo ni pacman may pacman-marquez 3 pa kaya???

 

based sa ring magazine though naging draw ang laban nung pacman-marquez1 pacman is likely to win that time. and in pacman-marquez 2 si pacquiao parin ang panalo. why? 2 times na nagdrop si marquez during the round3, 2nd daming below the belt na suntok ni marquez. again i heard a commentator saying "im waiting for a deduction on that" during the sa no hit zone na yun.

 

in the end pacman is way much better kay marquez. in 24 rounds of meetings marquez are downed for almost 5 times while pacman are happy and celebrating because it never happen to him.

 

i like the way marquez protecting himself by saying sya ang nanalo sa 1st and 2nd match. libre ang mangarap.

[djrs]

@Fright, ALL who said that Marquez won the fight..

 

 

I Dare You! Watch HBO-PPV! meron ako dito, majority ng binigyan ko ng video na ito na sinabing Marquez ang Nanalo? Ayun! ang score nila 114-113 or 115-113 Unanimous kay Pacyaw! hahahhhhaa.... wag puro solar sports at puro Donaire at Trinidad's ang pakinggan nyo! yung sa HBO nasa Ringside talaga!

 

at isa lang masasabi ko pag napanood nyo ulit yung Video sa HBO-PPV coverage! sasabihin nyo panalo nga si Pacman...

 

isa lang masasabi nila... lahat ng suntok ni Marquez puro sa siko at gloves lang tumatama mga suntok ni Marquez, Yung depensa ni Manny kasi maganda akala ng mga nanuod ng LIVE sa Solar sports coverage parang tinamaan si Pacman yung pala Gloves ni Pacman or elbows lang. ang style kasi ni pacman gumagalaw pati ulo while blocking kaya akala nyo tinatamaan sya yun pala hindi..

[rahlptoh]

Ahehehe hays dahil sa Scoring kapwa pinoy nagtatalo talo wala na tayu pinag iba sa Oposisyon at Administrasyon.

 

People people kung sa palagay nyo tama kau well eh di tama kayu diba, dont push ur blood UP dahil my pinoy na

si Marquez ang kinampihan nya coz that's the way he see things, We filipinos are being one sided dahil pinoy si

pacman siya lang un kakampihan. Im not saying na hindi dapt si pacman ang nanalo but then Im not CONVINCE enough.

 

Uo natuwa ako nung bumagsak si Marquez nung round 3 pero dismayado ako nung round 4 tapos na sana ang laban.

Ang nangyare nakabawe ng lakas si Marquez and he did what he plan to do to defeat Pacquiao which is kitang kita sa

mga counter nya.

 

Im no a scorer coz I dont know how to do it hehehe but then observer paren ako kahit sinung engot ang hindi marunong mag score can say kung sinu lyamado aty dehado pakatapos na laban hihi.

 

Fright sed enough y Iniicip namen na si Marquez dapat, but then ayus na lang din un kc si Pacman naman tlag dapat

nanalo nung 1st meeting nila kaya it would be nice if there will be a

 

3RD MATCH!!!

 

un lang ganun lang kasimple tama na ang bangayan hehehe though kaya nga my thread na ganito para my magpopost hehehe peace out guys!

[djrs]

@rahlptoh,

 

Watch HBO-PPV! wag solar sports.. pagkatapos mo panoorin sasabihin mo "ay hindi pala tumatama suntok ni Marquez?? puro sa Gloves at siko lang.

 

ako wala ako kinakampihan.. pinagtatanggol ko lang kung sino ang dapat nanalo walang dayaan.. kung magbaliktad sila ng situation at si Pacman ang bumagsak... dun sasabihin ko na Marquez panalo.. since then mahilig na kami sa boxing.. and i am not a Fan of Pacman.

 

but sa fight panalo talaga si Pacman. Watch HBO-PPV.. mas natuwa ako dun sa mga nakilala ko na nung una sabi nila si marquez ang panalo.. pero nung napanood nila HBO-PPV nag retract sila ang score na nila katulad nung kay LEDERMAN(Veteran Boxing Analyst) 115-113 yung iba 114-113 for Pacquiao.

[rahlptoh]

Ah eh ganun ba dude, uhm poor lang ako dude kaya hanngang GMA 7 lang

and I dont think I have to kc I dont have to prove naman na tama ako eh o

kung cnu man sa aten dito. Tapos na ang laban, ke tama ka o tama ako

hindi ako yayaman hehehehe.

 

Sinu ba pwede magaing trainer jan at coach??? gusto ko na magboksing para

yumaman hehehehe

[uaeboy25]

sa tagal ko ng nanood ng laban mula araneta i can is ibang mapanood ang live. dun mo makikita ang simpleng daya. like nakita ko hindi gaanong naclean up ang dugo ni marquez. does round is important since medyo lamang si pacquiao. biglang hininto ng ref ang laban kasi dumudugo nga. simpleng gulang nga naman. another interuption. though si pacman dumudugo din pero hindi sya nabigyan ng chance na mainter up. in case na posible na alanganin ang case ni marquez may reason ang ref na iinter up dahil sa dugo. nakita ko un sa tv. though ayokong magmarunong. all i can say is filipino boxers are clean fighters in common and im proud of it. napakalinis maglaro. siguro bilang ko ang napakadaya sa loob ng lona like bobby pacquiao when he fight hector velazquez. pero common sa mexican ang madaya. like ubos oras para umabot ng 12 rounds. like useless jabs. like pag pumwesto sa likod mo ang ref suntok bigla sa no hit zone. nang uulo, pag sumuntok ng hook kasama ang siko. meron extra jabs kahit hinto na nag ref(infamous is barrera-pacman2).

 

marquez had done enough to try to win. even giving a dirty tactics. but the the old motto in like. cheaters never win.

pacmans title belt is enough vendication from a daw way back Agapito Sánchez(2001 and a very dirty fighter), barerra(2007 with extra curricular punches), jmm(2004 which judges mistakenly made a wrong scoring with respect to 3 knockdown rule), another bad moment is when pacman accidental headbut during the pacman-morales 1 which he suffered a wound causing him to lost that fight. i think winning the belt is a big vendication in which he really desrerved it.

 

its a fighter fight. marquez failed to give pacman a a power punches that will make the filipino cham collapse. and if this happen marquez is a dinfite winner in a even performance. but sorry pacman made a difference by his own.

 

sa mga mexicano pagbigyan nyo na muna ang mga pinoy kahit that time lang to celebrate. sa pinoy na nagduda sa panalo ni pacman sorry po hindi ito election na ganun kadaling mandaya. wala sa dugo ng pinoy ang magdaya sa boxing :cool:

[rahlptoh]

Ahehe hindi namn pinoy ang mga judge, wrong me if im correct hehehe.

 

en napanood ko pa sa GMA 7 news kagabe ung under cards na boxer pinoy

sinu bah yun?? nanalo in default kc hindi na makalaban un kaboxing nya, y??

 

3 low blows hit by pinoy? I dont think it's daya, accidentally lang siguro un..

 

saka dude sa Boxing walang daya siguro, pagdating sa Election? sa palagay mo hindi madaya ang mga Pinoy?

 

wala lang...

[djrs]

Fright

@djrs

masasabi lng po na knockdown kapag nagland ung tuhod sa canvas or ntouch ng kamay ang canvas, holding the ropes to stay up is allowed

 

@djrs

uulitin ko po, nasa ref ang decision kung tatawagin nyang down ang paghawak sa ropes while going down or hindi. minsan nga kahit hindi humawak sa ropes e, kahit nakatayo pa binibilangan nang down. kc alam ng ref na unconcious na ung fighter.

 

hm.. u said it urself

 

"They ar prohibited from holding the ropes for support when punching"

 

but they are allowd to hold the ropes to stay up after taking a punch, and holding the ropes while going down is not a knock down =)

post Today, 05:45 AM

 

lmao

 

definitely it would be a down if the ropes werent there, left right combination from the hardest puncher in the division would knock down any fighter in that position

 

a 619 would be really funny though lol

 

ayyy.. Aminado ka pala e? pag pinagtatanggol mo pa na dapat si Marquez nanalo? eto panoorin mo ulit ha? kapatid ni Marquez! nakatayo, nasuntok, napahawak sa ROPE! Ruled as Knockdown! kasi nakita ng Referee!

 

 

eto naman hindi nakita ni BAYLESS! at proven na hilo pa si Marquez kasi papunta sya sa Corner ni Pacman! inalalayan pa sya ni Bayless! hahahahaha. oo nasa ref ang decision pero hindi nga nakita ni bayless kaya pano sya mag dedecide! hahahahah.

 

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5531/pac2oz1.gif

 

i was scoring it during the fight, but i viewed the fight 4 times again. and my score card doesnt change ^^ hm.. i wonder if the judges in the fight needed to view the fight 2 times more just to score the fight hehe

 

Di na kailangan ng JUDGE na panoorin two times! Y? tama sila e PANALO si PACMAN! tapos.. ikaw dapat manood ng HBO para mas malapit ang CAMERA ANGLE's at Mas malinaw kung pumasok ang suntok ni Marquez at Ni pacman.

 

 

in that fight the the referee's decision was to call it a down because maybe he saw marquez jst trying to stay up but has no legs at all

 

Panoorin mo nga ulit yung kay Pacman Marquez! so ibig sabihin may LEGS pa si Marquez sa 1-2 power punch ni pacman? hahahahaha. wag ka mag bulag bulagan! HILONG-HILO pa nga si Marquez e(asan na corner nya? hahahaha! pero dun sa kapatid nya na rule as knockdown!

 

im jst saying that even donaire, a champion scored it for maquez leading by 1 point. to show that even some experts say that marquez won, not just me ^^ and yeah i also respect the side that says that pacman won because as i said, over and over again. we cant be certain, even the judges. because it is really close. decision goes to pacman and thats the end.

 

sino mga EXPERTS mo? Donaire? Trinidad's? CHIKITO HENSON? JOKE sila pag dating sa Pag jujudge! hahahahaha.

ako nag papakita ako ng PROOF!

 

Kilala mo ba si LEDERMAN? hahahahahaha.

 

Fright ScoreCards

 

Pac 9 9 10 10 9 9 9 9 10 10 10 9

 

Mar 10 10 8 9 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 10

 

kaya pala panalo sayo si Marquez e.. SOLAR SPORTS PINANOOD MO! katulad ng mga BOXING EXPERTS mo. HAHAHHHAHA!>

 

ETO PATUNAY KO!

 

ROUND 1

PACMAN PUNCH 12-49

JMM PUNCH 6-43

 

GRABE ka! all THREE JUDGES SCORED RD.1 at 10-9 for PACMAN! tapos Marquez ka? hahahahahhaa.

 

eto SAMPLE:

 

HBO scores round 1 for Pacquiao

 

Round 1 - A chant of Mexico begins. Straight left and right by Pacquiao. Now a chant of Marquez breaks out. A very cautious first round. A hard right hand lands for Marquez. Hard left by Pacquiao and Marquez with a heavy left to the body. Close round for Marquez.

 

sama mo pa itong RD. 7 na sabi mo 10 kay mArquez!

 

HBO scores round 7 for Pacquiao

 

Round 7 - A big left hand by Marquez. Pacquiao lands to the body. Left by Pacquiao and Marquez counters. A clash of heads and there is a cut outside the right eye of Marquez. Three punch combo by Marquez and they start to trade big puches. Neither is moving back. Both are trading. Right hand sends Pacquiao back. Pacquiao back with two lefts. Close round for Pacquiao.

 

sama mo pa to ha?? NAALALA NYO BA NA BAKIT DAW PINALITAN YUNG JUDGE? ETO ANG SCORE NYA PACMAN PARIN PANALO VIA 114-113! HAHAHAHAHA.

 

What If Flaherty Judged, Not Miller?

Recused Dick Flaherty: Glowing Praise For Marquez But His Score Was 114-113, Pacquiao, Also!

Link: http://www.boxingconfidential.com/articles.php?id=4139

[uaeboy25]

sa election sobrang daya. as i said sa boxing hindi natin gawain ang mandaya. kung gaano kadalas tayo nakapandaya sa boxing mas madalas tayong ninanakawan ng title. sa olympic remember the low blows of vietnamese boxer to ruel velasco natalo sya at nalaglag sabronze. sa atlanta olympic hindi nabibilang ng judge ang naiconnect ni onyok sa kalaban, nalaglag si onyok sa silver instead of gold.

 

sa profesional boxing remember how jerry penalosa is set up to lost in korea. 5 hours bago sya maglaro saka lang sya nakarating ng korea(jetlag) its all to be blame sa manager nya na kilalang nagbebenta ng laro. kay pacman everytime he got a draw title belt ang hindi nya natatanggap.

 

imagine the champ of mexico na nagdadaya. hindi ba nakakahiya sila kampion na nagdadaya pa din.

 

ayoko maging personal to pero kahit badboy si navarette hindi sya nagkampion sa pandaraya.

lahat ng kampion natin malinis kasi alam nila na pag nagdaya sila mismong kapwa pinoy ang gugulpi sa kanila. un na kasi ang psycology ng pinoy. well i most of thailander and mexicans are different pag malapit na sa title.

 

as i said "cheaters never win" kaya hindi nanalo si jmm. low blows is considered an act of frustrations and cheating.

 

pero kung may pipichugin na pinoy boxer ang nagdaya, hindi yan aabot sa championship.