PacMan's Corner

[edc]

though I don't have to argue with all the realistic facts that you stated, my question is - kelan pa tayo magkakaron ng atletang pinoy na masasabi at maipagmamalaki na ang laban niya ay para sa bayan?

 

Kung Athletang Pinoy para sa akin eh yung mga Billiard Players dito sa Pinas. Sa Bilyar talaga ang Pinoy pwede mapag-malaki. Dito sa sariling bansa natin ang Training. Sa Bilyar marami tayo pwede ilaban.

 

Take Note: Hindi ko post na Efren Bata Reyes. Kaya sabi ko Billiard Players kasi ang dami magagling dito sa Pinas. (Busty, Orcullo, Vale, Alcano...etc)

 

Ang Training natin dito mismo sa Pinas. Coaches nila mga Pinoy din. Walang halong Foreigner na nagturo. Ang Tako gawang Pampanga (Nung sumali na sa International Competiton dun lang naging Predator ang Tako )

 

Yung Boxing kasi hinid ko consider na Sports eh. Ang Boxing "Kainan ng Salita" Isang araw ito sasabihin pag dating ng ibang araw iba na naman sasabihin. Plastikan labanan dito sa Boxing.

 

Ang Naghubog kay Manny eh si Freddie Roach. Hindi naman Pinoy si Freddie Roach. So para sa akin hindi talaga laban ng Pinoy yun. Nambobola lang mga Politico and Channel 2 na pinipilit sabihin na laban ng Pinoy yung kay Manny.

 

Sa Billiards meron program ang Pilipinas.

 

Sa Boxing ewan ko ano program ng Pinas. Kasi ang Coach lagi eh si Freddie Roach.

 

Sabi ko nga hindi si Mother Teresa si Pacquiao kaya kung magyababang sya eh wag na kayo maiinis. Boxingero sya hindi Values Teacher.

 

Pero ang Problema ngayon ni Manny eh talagang Pinanindigan na nya yung pagiging "Bayaning Filipino" na gustong i-role sa kanya ng Government. Ang Hirap nun pag winawagayway mo yung bandila ng Pilipinas. Pati Private Life mo talaga mauungkat. Kasi Role-Model ang gustong ipagawa sa kanya ng Government. So mga Tao ang expectation eh maging Role Model si Pacquiao.

 

Pero Boxingero si Pacquiao. Tao lang na nagkakamali. Kaya Gago ang Government dun sa gusto nila mangyari kay Pacquiao. Problema naman ni Pacquiao eh madali i-manipulate. Pati pag takbo sa Government Office eh baka pasukin pa.

 

Buti hindi Tanga si Efren "Bata" Reyes.

Edited November 21, 2006 by edc

[greenarrow]

Pacquiao manager wants Barrera next

 

 

By Francis Ochoa

Inquirer

Last updated 01:30am (Mla time) 11/22/2006

 

Published on Page A29 of the November 22, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer

 

LAS VEGAS -- It may not be the fight on the horizon right now, but Manny Pacquiao’s manager, Shelly Finkel, believes that the next step for the Filipino ring sensation should be Marco Antonio Barrera.

 

“It’s the best fight for [Pacquiao] right now,” said Finkel, reacting to reports that a fight with WBC super featherweight champion Barrera is far from the picture.

 

Top Rank Promotions, which recently won the tug-of-war to promote Pacquiao, is not too keen on the fight and plans another bout in Macau against a still unnamed opponent.

 

“This [barrera tiff] is the fight that can bring in the money for Manny,” said Finkel.

 

Barrera, part of the trinity of Mexican boxing gods that Pacquiao had all sent to the canvas, is promoted by Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions

 

The outfit had tried to lure Pacquiao away from the Bob Arum-headed Top Rank, which promotes Pacquiao’s fights.

 

Top Rank has hinted that the Macau bout could be against Venezuelan knockout artist Edwin Valero.

 

Finkel said there are a lot of creases to be ironed before a Barrera match can be worked out. On top of that list is the impending lawsuit Golden Boy is set to file against Top Rank anytime this week.

 

“There’s going to be a lawsuit for sure and it’s sad because Manny doesn’t need these kind of things at a time when he should be on top of the world,” Finkel said.

 

A source said Golden Boy has an air-tight case against Top Rank because it holds a contract signed by Pacquiao. Golden Boy signed Pacquiao to a seven-fight deal last September when Pacquiao arrived in Los Angeles to train for his Grand Finale bout against Erik Morales.

 

Pacquiao won that fight last Saturday (Sunday in Manila) at the Thomas & Mack Arena, sending the Mexican sensation known as “El Terrible” thrice to the canvas, the last at the 2:57 mark of the third round that ended the fight.

 

After the match, Arum announced that Top Rank was keeping Pacquiao after the two parties agreed to a four-year deal.

 

Valero who?

 

On paper, Venezuelan Edwin Valero is the world’s strongest puncher in his class. He knocked out his first 18 opponents in the first round, surpassing the previous best of 15 consecutive first-round KOs posted by Young Otto.

 

Mexican Genaro Trazancos ended Valero’s streak by surviving until the second round last March.

 

Valero won the WBA super featherweight title by besting Panamanian Vicente Mosquera via a 10th round TKO. This he did after surviving a third-round knockdown. In January 2004, Valero failed a brain scan in New York and was banned from fighting in the United States. The abnormalities detected are a result of head injuries he sustained in a motorcycle accident in 2001.

 

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/sports/view_article.php?article_id=34004

[MRyoso]

I'll bring you back the question - why do I have the reason to hate him?

 

BIG REASON - filipino siya katulad ko, ang karangalan niya karangalan ko rin...

Even for the fact if his bad side overshadows his greatness mas maiintidihan ko at ng bawat filipino kasi filipino siya...

kahit na may mas magaling siyang kalaban sa kanya pa rin ako, but why do I have to hate him?

 

I can hate Ali for being mayabang, or Tyson because he's a rapist - pero si Manny - kababayan ko yan...

 

madaling sabihin - 'sana matalo si Ali kasi sobrang yabang' o 'sana matalo si Tyson kasi kumakain ng tenga'

 

e logical naman, sino ba namang matinong tao na kakampi sa hindi niya kababayan at dahil sa rason na mayabang

siya?

 

parang sinabi mo sa tatay mo - 'tatay mayabang ka sana matalo ka at kampi ako sa kalaban mo'? puwede ba 'yun?

 

eh di demonyo nga lang ang magkakaron ng motibo na ipanalangin ang ibang tao na matalo kahit alam niya na matuwid naman ang hangarin niya?

 

o di pa ba sapat 'yun? tinalo ni Manny si Morales, niyakap pa niya pagkatapos - mayabang ba 'yun? is that enough

reason for anyone to say I would hate pacman kasi mayabang siya pero gentleman fighter siya kay Morales?

 

I would have any reason to be angry at any celebrity, other team or players even my own parents pero pag may

kalaban sila at karangalan ng pamilya ko ang nakasalalay - kakampi ako sa mga taong yan hindi sa kalaban nila...

 

It would make sense kung makita ko ang reason ng mga pro-Morales na pinoy ay mas magaling si Morales kay Pacquiao bilang boksingero, mas maiintindihan ko yan.. o kaya kelangan kong magkapera ng malaki kaya pupusta ako kay Morales at malay mo manalo...

 

pero kung kayabangan lang - kitang-kita naman na KABABAYAN KO YAN....

 

kaya Congrats Manny....

 

ill repeat this so you can understand.

 

reasons can make a person go the ther side or another

 

and some find manny being mayabang is enough reason for them to root for morales

 

yeah, i agree that it is mababaw but what gives you the right to call them DEMONYO?

 

respect their opinions. its as simple as that

 

and what gives you the right to attack those who are against manny and act stupid because of their choices?

 

kanya kanyang opinyon yan, kanya kanyang gusto.ika nga, you cannot please everybody

 

 

eto pa Mr. Torpeng-torpe..

 

I'll give you a lot of reasons why I should hate Morales and the Pro-morales..

 

1. Pacman-Morales part 1 - Pro-morales people believed so much that Morales is a better fighter than Manny, even though Manny survived until the 12th round and displayed the true definition of a no-quitter..

 

2. Pacman-Morales Part 2 - Pro-morales cannot believe when Pacman knocked down Morales on the 6th round (correct me if I am wrong) and

they said it's not his weight class... Even Morales admitted saying he was beaten by a better fighter after the fight then a few days later he said he had problems with the weight and he can beat Pacman again on a rematch - BIG LIAR!!!

 

3. Pacman-Morales Part 3 - Pro-morales believes that Morales made a gallant stand as a fighter even though Pacman knocked him down on the 3rd round... it's just the 3rd round? he QUITTED!!!! if he has the spirit to win then he shouldn't have quitted, hindi naman siya lamog na lamog katulad nung Pac-Morales 2... Pacman stayed up to 12 rounds even if he has a closed eye on Part 1... if Morales was a gallant fighter then why quit on the 3rd round? hindi naman yung ref nag rule out na talo na siya eh, siya mismo ang umayaw - great fighter ba 'yun?

 

4. Why is Morales so quick to fight Pacman after his last fight with Pacman?

He could have the option to delay the fight until next year and really prepare for Pacman and have the fight of his life and then have the right to fight Barrera... His real motive was to fight Barrera at the expense of his expectations to defeat Manny - but he was wrong!!!

 

5. kung Filipino ka - ano pa ang magiging rason mo na kumampi kay Morales kahit alam mo na mas magaling talaga si Manny sa kanya?

 

think! think! think!

 

answers:

1) simply because they are pro morales. tayo as pro manny believe that manny is the better fighter among the two. anong kinaiinis mo dun sa paniniwala ng mga pro morales na mas magaling si morales kay manny? hahah.

pacquiao displayed heart in the first matchup, but morales is the better fighter that time. period.

 

2)RASON! excuses. yan ang ayoko sa boxing. yung nagdraw si pacquiao kay jmm, ano rason niya? yung natalo si manny kay morales? ano rason niya? marami di ba? edi dapat kainisan na din si manny? tsk! kesyo problema sa pamilya, marami distractions sa training, yung medyas, nasira ang kamao, the list goes one. admit it. karamihan ng boxers e ginagawa yun pag natalo. thats what you call pride. and manny is also guilty of that. hindi sila marunong tumanggap ng pagkatalo.

 

3) so you dont consider morales a great and a gallant fighter because he quitted in the third round? o cmon! nanonood ka ba ng mga laban ni morales? i was also surprised when morales decided not to continue the fight. he already knew that he is no match for pacquiao and as an INTELLIGENT FIGHTER, he opted to not go on because he knows that he will just get hurt and for hi to avoid further humiliation. the first fight and this fight is different. the first fight, eventhough manny was bloodied was close. NO KNOCKDOWNS and kahit nung huli kahit sino pwede manalo. e dito, its obvious that morales cant continue the fight anymore. kung nalaglag si pacquiao at umayaw sa third round, hindi mo ba sasabihin gallant fighter siya?

 

4) where did you get this news? pabasa nga pahingi ng link. seryoso. answer: REDEMPTION! fighting barrera again? hahah.. he wants to get back at manny. its as simple as that. at anduon ang pera. money talks. yung jmm fight ni manny bakit hindi natuloy? kasi mas may pera kay morales!

 

5) alam mo ba yung ibig sabihin ng word na loyalty? kahit bagsaka na at talo, dun parin sa gusto nla dati pa. ganun ka simple.

 

 

pahabol:

 

TOBATS, ALAM KO NA ANG DAHILAN MO KUNG BAKIT KA GALIT SA MGA PRO MORALES, KASI HINDI SILA PRO MANNY. ALAM MO BA ANG IBIG SABIHIN NG FANS? THEY STICK WITH THEIR IDOLS THRU THICK AND THIN. AND YUNG MGA PINOST MO, HINDI LANG SI MORALES AT HINDI LANG ANG MGA PRO MORALES ANG GUILTY DUN. GUILTY DIN TAYONG MGA MAKA PACQUIAO AT MISMONG SI PACQUIAO.

 

THINK. THINK. THINK..

 

 

ONE MORE, BAKIT DEMONYO PARA SAYO ANG MGA MORALES?

Edited November 22, 2006 by misteryosong_torpe

[Headroom]

Shouldn't be any discussion about hating anyone - they both deserve respect.

 

Morales was a great figther and a world champion in 3 different weight classes - an amazing accomplishment in anyones books.

 

Manny is on the way to the top - he'll be a more complete fighter this time.

 

They have put on 3 very different but none the less amazing fights that have held a lot of the world captive - can't ask for anything more from 2 champions.

[Mandrake]

There's a looming controversy that may elevate into a full-blown legal battle between TOP RANK (of Bob Arum) and GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS (of Oscar dela Hoya). The sooner this is resolved outside of the court, the better for Pacman. It was reported earlier that Arum is arranging a deal with the camp of WBA superfeartherweight champ Edwin "El Dinamita" Valero for a fight in Macau, although Manny (and most boxing afficionados) would prefer another battle finale with Barrera.

 

Either way, we hope they do the fight in Manila instead. :cool:

[jopit]

PLASTIC YAN SI PACQUIAO. KUNWARI MABAIT NA ANAK...ISIPIN NINYO MATAGAL NA SIYANG NANANALO NG MILLION UNTIL NOW LA PALA SIYA SASAKYAN NAIBIGAY SA NANAY NIYA. ANG GAGARA NG SASAKYAN NIYA PERO ANG NANAY DI NA NAKATIIS AT LIVE SA TV NA HUMINGI NA NG SASAKYAN...KAWAWANG INA AT TINITIPID NG ANAK.

 

KAYA BALITA KO PAGKATAPOS DAW NG INTERVIEW SA TV AY TINAWAGAN DAW NIYA ANG NANAY NIYA AT PINAGALITAN KESYO NAPAHIYA DAW SIYA SA TV AT NASIRA IMAGE NIYA NA MABAIT.

 

OH LABAN KAYO. DI LANG BOXING KUNDI PANG ARTISTA PA SI PACKYAW!

[Agent_mulder]

Pag may laban lang yata si manny saka nagkakaisa ang pinoy, kaso may mga pulitiko na gustong sumakay sa popularidad ni manny...

[extrarice3]

Some things I've noticed in their short 3 round fight:

 

-MP actually did a shuffle after successfully avoiding EM's barrages (R1 T:45). The HBO PPV copy showed it clearly.

-EM says something with "p_ta" to MP on the end of R2

-MP has this 5-punch combo at R3 T:59 (left-right on stomach then left-right-left on head) like taken from a fight video game

-the last 2 knockdowns of EM are on the same place of the ring, but 74 seconds apart

-the crowd is shouting MAnny and not MEnny (with an accent), proving that though most are FilAms, they still call him MAnny.

-its good that the fight lasted for a short time because MP had two enemies in the ring (R2 T:45, R3 T1:12)

 

:mtc:

[clubber_lang]

3) so you dont consider morales a great and a gallant fighter because he quitted in the third round? o cmon! nanonood ka ba ng mga laban ni morales? i was also surprised when morales decided not to continue the fight. he already knew that he is no match for pacquiao and as an INTELLIGENT FIGHTER, he opted to not go on because he knows that he will just get hurt and for hi to avoid further humiliation. the first fight and this fight is different. the first fight, eventhough manny was bloodied was close. NO KNOCKDOWNS and kahit nung huli kahit sino pwede manalo. e dito, its obvious that morales cant continue the fight anymore. kung nalaglag si pacquiao at umayaw sa third round, hindi mo ba sasabihin gallant fighter siya?

 

I remember his fight against In Jin Chi...

 

That was just pure heart...

[edc]

Medyo Out of Topic ng konti pero related pa rin kay Manny.

 

Ano yung shoes na suot ni Manny pag naka Long Sleeves nya? Habang tumatagal gumagaling pomorma si Pacquiao ah.

 

Ibang klase talaga pag asensado nah

 

Post na lang ng Pics ni manny pacquiao pag naka civilian.

Edited November 22, 2006 by edc

[greenarrow]

Arum: Manny won’t be caught in crossfire

By Joaquin Henson

The Philippine Star 11/22/2006

 

LAS VEGAS — Top Rank head Bob Arum will assume the cost of all legal expenses and provide a private lawyer for Manny Pacquiao in the event the fighter is sued by Golden Boy Promotions for renouncing a contract he previously signed with Oscar de la Hoya.

 

That’s the word from Rex (Wakee) Salud who told The STAR the other day the decision to junk Golden Boy for Top Rank was in Pacquiao’s best interests.

 

Salud, who is one of Pacquiao’s closest advisers, found himself out of the loop when on the night the fighter arrived in Los Angeles from Manila last September, de la Hoya put a total of $500,000 in cash on the table as bait to sign a seven-fight deal.

 

Salud said Pacquiao, lawyer Jing Gacal and trainer Freddie Roach mysteriously disappeared during a late dinner at Denny’s shortly after arriving from Manila. It turned out that de la Hoya and Golden Boy vice president Eric Gomez met secretly with Pacquiao, Gacal and Roach — without Salud — at a nearby steakhouse.

 

When news leaked out that Pacquiao had come to terms with de la Hoya, Arum cried foul. He said there is a specific clause in Pacquiao’s contract with Top Rank prohibiting him from signing any fight contract until after the rubber match against Erik Morales. The implication was because of the clause, the contract that Pacquiao signed with Golden Boy was invalid.

 

The day before Pacquiao faced Morales, Arum sent a letter to de la Hoya, informing him of the renouncement, and returned the $500,000 that was previously given. The $500,000 was broken down into a signing bonus of $350,000 and an advance of $150,000.

 

It was not certain if Golden Boy would sue Arum or Pacquiao who is in the middle of a bitter war between the rival promoters.

 

Pacquiao’s manager Shelly Finkel said the conflict may result in a protracted legal battle but is optimistic he can get the Filipino out of the entanglement.

 

Finkel’s contract to manage Pacquiao expires on Jan. 31 next year but he is offering to remain in the team under the fighter’s terms.

 

Finkel entered Pacquiao’s world through Roach after the sidelining of previous manager Marty Elorde, business manager Rod Nazario and promoter Murad Muhammad early last year. With over 20 years of experience managing a slew of high-profile fighters, Finkel negotiated Pacquiao’s break from Muhammad, made sure the Filipino would not be at a disadvantage in the Morales rematch (particularly in choosing gloves) and built in penalty clauses in the contract for the third Morales fight in case of failure to make the weight.

 

From being out of the loop, Salud has bounced back with a vengeance.

 

Salud said he met with Arum and other Top Rank executives to iron out a new four-year deal that was announced after the knockout over Morales in a press conference.

 

"For about 12 days, I did nothing but work out this new contract," said Salud. "This is the best thing that could have happened to Manny. He’s very happy with this contract and Top Rank is committed to provide all-out support for Manny."

 

Salud said he’s not at liberty to disclose the terms of the contract but mentioned it stipulates six bouts each year — two for Pacquiao and four for other Filipino fighters.

 

"It’s a contract that’s good not only for Manny but for other Filipino fighters who could be the next Pacquiao," said Salud.

 

Another key stipulation is Pacquiao will be awarded full Philippine TV rights for his fights without Top Rank sharing in the fees.

 

After de la Hoya signed Pacquiao to a contract, he said there would be no legal impediment to executing the agreement and even dared Arum to bring a case to court. De la Hoya promised to be in Pacquiao’s corner for the Morales fight. But when the bell rang last Saturday, the Golden Boy was nowhere around. He was told of the renouncement the day before.

 

Pacquiao declined to comment on the legal implications of renouncing the Golden Boy contract and signing a new four-year deal with Top Rank.

 

Kevin Iole of the Las Vegas Review-Journal said "legal complications might result" from the renouncement but Arum said Pacquiao has nothing to worry about because he’s on top of the situation.

 

Salud said Pacquiao made the right choice in electing to stay with Arum instead of joining de la Hoya who manages Marco Antonio Barrera — the World Boxing Council superfeatherweight champion tipped to face the Filipino in a big money fight next year.

 

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200611231601.htm

[bret_hart]

PLASTIC YAN SI PACQUIAO. KUNWARI MABAIT NA ANAK...ISIPIN NINYO MATAGAL NA SIYANG NANANALO NG MILLION UNTIL NOW LA PALA SIYA SASAKYAN NAIBIGAY SA NANAY NIYA. ANG GAGARA NG SASAKYAN NIYA PERO ANG NANAY DI NA NAKATIIS AT LIVE SA TV NA HUMINGI NA NG SASAKYAN...KAWAWANG INA AT TINITIPID NG ANAK.

 

KAYA BALITA KO PAGKATAPOS DAW NG INTERVIEW SA TV AY TINAWAGAN DAW NIYA ANG NANAY NIYA AT PINAGALITAN KESYO NAPAHIYA DAW SIYA SA TV AT NASIRA IMAGE NIYA NA MABAIT.

 

OH LABAN KAYO. DI LANG BOXING KUNDI PANG ARTISTA PA SI PACKYAW!

 

any proof of you claims boy??

 

tanong lang, kung ang nanay mo di marunong magmaneho ibibili mo ba ng sasakyan???

 

hay naku! kaya di umasenso ang Pilipinas eh. puro siraan.

 

iwasan na natin ang inggit maging masay na lang tayo sa kababayan natin. kung gusto nyo maging asensado magsikap tayo wag yung puro tayo paninira sa kapwa!

[steyr]

congrats kay manny!!

 

tama pre, tayotayo pinoy nagtitirahan .. si morales kaya tirahin natin for a change.. ang haba kasi ng ilong kaya natalo eh..

[solicitor]

well, if that's the case then it's my mistake...

 

because I even notice kahit dun sa mannypacquiao.ph website nakakaabot yung mga mexicano para lang makipagaway sa mga pinoy tungkol kay Morales... alam ko part 1, part 2 solid yung mga mexicano kay Morales, pero part 3 dami mexicanong bumilib kay Manny bago nung laban... ano naman ba daw reason bakit galit sila kay Morales?

 

 

See ur stupidity!!!God gave us the power to "think".........use our minds..........to decide on our own..........thats why there are "pro's" and there are "anti's".......majority and minority.........."coin,two sides" hello........retards are the only ones who does not have an opinion........are you a retard?

[MRyoso]

See ur stupidity!!!God gave us the power to "think".........use our minds..........to decide on our own..........thats why there are "pro's" and there are "anti's".......majority and minority.........."coin,two sides" hello........retards are the only ones who does not have an opinion........are you a retard?

 

 

exactly my point

 

everyone has the capacity to make their own decisions and choices.

 

tobats, you cannot control everybody.

 

better know the meaning of pros and anti

 

yung 5 points na pinost mo kung bakit galit ka kela morales at sa mga pro morales e napakababaw. :sick:

 

guilty lahat si manny at ang pro pacquiao dun sa mga yun

 

ibig sabihn demonyo din sila manny

 

funny s@%t!

Edited November 23, 2006 by misteryosong_torpe