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2 hours ago, Harding said:

thnx for BBM  and FM vision. as you can see, BBM is much different from his father..FM is  law board topnother and a decorated soldier (still under question), Senate President and a famous dictator as presented in different history books. Even if he BBM wants to imitate the vision of his father, we cannot expect him that he can do that because of his limited mental capacity. we all know that he is a school drop out.

 

I will not continue to engage you in an intelligent discussion if you start it with ad hominem. So forget about your false imagination about his mental capacity. I assume you're beyond high school level in education and know about genetics. BBM has 50% of the genes of his father. If you really watched the video, you would see how articulate he is on the issues he presented. His voice even sounds a lot like his father. I'm sure even if he's just half as good as his father, he's more than adequate to be our President.

No ad hominems, please.

Let's stick to the issues. We're talking about the vision and platform of governance he presented. There were several of them in the video. Which one do you want to discuss first for comparison with Leni's platform?

3 hours ago, Harding said:

ano meron kay BBM para iboto ko sya?

You already have declared your support for Leni as presidential candidate. 

So I take it that you're baiting people in this forum to post something about BBM's platform so you can demolish it.

Try this one.

BBM shares his father's vision and is now presenting it as his platform for his presidential campaign. He intend to follow the same concept and blueprint of his late father's Nation Building program, but adding to it his proposed development and transformation plans in  digital technology arena.

Watch this video. You're free to poke holes in it, and prove to us that this is just an empty vision as  compared to your candidate's platform.

The oligarchs mentioned here are trying to derail BBM's presidential campaign because Bongbong will continue with Duterte's policy towards braking the stranglehold of oligarchs on Philippine politics.

Watch and learn the truth.

18 hours ago, Rook05 said:

I see, interesting.  I like his voice in this video and overall message.

With what you say and his direction from the video, wouldn't he fit the responsibilities of either a Secretary of Finance or Secretary of Human Settlements and Urban Development?  This way he can focus on and be responsible for these efforts.

Why would BBM go for cabinet level if he can run as President? As president, can delegate these responsibilities to qualified people using the implementation templates that they have proven to work in the past.

On 9/30/2021 at 9:32 PM, Swatch said:

IMHO, its the oligarchs who will help decide the outcome of the coming elections. They will fund the candidates who will be most beneficial to their businesses and standing. 

In turn, candidates will seek support from them. It's a vicious cycle since the beginning...

Do you think BBM's campaign will be supported by  oligarchs? Or on the contrary, would you agree that they will instead support BBM's opponents?

If BBM wins despite the oligarchs' massive support for the other candidates, don't you think that will end the vicious cycle?

Duterte was not oligarchs' lackey. You can now see what happened to the oligarch-controlled corporations. ABS-CBN (Lopez) losing their franchise, Manila Water and Maynilad (Ayala, Lopez, Pangilinan, etc...) being threatened to lose their franchise if they don't improve their service, and so on...

I believe BBM, being a non-oligarchy-supported candidate, will have the political will to continue with Duterte administration's economic policies and programs - for the benefit of the Filipinos, not for the vested interests of the oligarchs.

I will vote for him.

On 10/8/2021 at 1:17 AM, barokhugasitlog said:

ICC is waving at you. Lintik lang walang ganti. Isa kang salot

Be realistic. ICC has no jurisdiction over the Philippines.
If you want revenge, take the matter up within the Philippine justice system. 
The question is, do you even know what he did wrong to justify bringing him to court? Or are you just parroting the opposition narrative?

On 10/11/2021 at 12:53 PM, Vince3 said:

Yeah, saying that its not part of his father's policy is clearly washing his father's hands. I definitely need more recognition.

It was under his martial law, under his leadership and policies that made way for these abuses occured.

Trials of plunder wherein his family is found guilty in both local and international justice system. How about this? This is already directly sa family.

 

He is basically saying that their father didnt do any crimes. Thats why back to my question and lets make it simpler, do you guys dont believe that he didnt steal billions of dollars from our country? Or do you believe it but still believes in bbm. Again, my problem, bbm is not his father and total denial

From 1986 to 2021 -- that's 35 long years of trying to prove the alleged crimes and stolen billions. Was the justice system suppressed during the past 35 years that it failed to prove the Marcoses guilty of the crimes and the purported billions of dollars worth of wealth still to be found?

If you care to look at cases that were filed against them for which the prosecution won, they're civil cases with values so insignificantly small compared to their claims of massive tens of billions of dollars. No murder, torture, rape, or human rights abuses were ever proven. Most possibly because the charges were false or the prosecutors filed the the criminal cases against the wrong people. 

I used to be anti-Marcos during the People Power era. I used to believe the yellow movement narratives and fully supported Cory Aquino. But years later, as more facts came to light, I began to see the hypocrisy and ineptness of the yellow regime and became convinced that the narrative I naively believed were mostly lies.

Then I moved on. Now I base my decision on hard facts, not on irrelevant propaganda. 

On 10/7/2021 at 3:17 PM, Rook05 said:

Interesting... what do you consider as criteria to vote for him?

He is the only Presidential candidate who has clear ideas about the national developmental issues and has already developed a platform on how to address them.

I like to have a leader who has a clear vision.

For example, on the issue of sufficient energy to sustain our national economic developments, here is what he wants to do:

3 hours ago, listo said:

Any BBM supporters here?

I will vote for him if he runs.
 

On 9/6/2021 at 10:40 PM, MTC said:

If it's a question of how much effect, the answer depends on what topic. In politics, the newspapers who manifested themselves online have very little effect. Look at Manilatimes. Well written articles, but getting very low readership. People see their intentions clearly, advertising Bong Go and too pro-government. They've managed to annoy most readers, now nobody's reading them. Everyday their content is about Bong Go and the Dutertes.

ABS CBN is obviously yellow. Everyday they have a Leni Robredo article.

How does the media affect people? Minimal. It's Google AI we should be keeping our eyes on. 🙂 

Manila Times articles are indeed well written. Low readership? I doubt it. It depends on which target audience you're referring to. I read the digital on-line version of Manila Times. I would expect the international readers would, too.

On 10/2/2021 at 9:35 PM, Vince3 said:

Yes, you can say everyone did corruption. But martial law included, thousands of rapes, torture, total disregard for human lives. That is totally unacceptable. Like i said, I wouldnt have a problem with him if he recognized it and apologize for something he did not have control over. To not even recognize though is really worrisome. Its a disregard for the lives of Filipino people. A president with this mind set is very dangerous for me.

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts

I have watched Ferdinand Marcos Jr.'s interviews on the matter. He acknowledged that there were crimes and abuses made by the military during Martial Law. He added that they were not part of the policies of his father. What more recognition do you need?

And you're right. He should not apologize for something  he did not have control over.

On 9/21/2021 at 1:10 PM, haroots2 said:

Susundan ni Josh ang yapak ng fave niyang Uncle Noy.

That is the very reason why I believe their dynasty has ended.

On 10/5/2021 at 4:05 AM, hit05 said:

 

Agree. Many here are just parrots of propaganda.

 

Propaganda is the way to manipulate the unthinking crowd filled with energy and zest for change in their own lives.  Manipulation of the public perception and opinion is the way to use democracy and turn it violent or submissive.  But such systems do not work for all. It is just democracy made to harm the system, the perfect justification for the rise of a ruler to nullify public interest in order to force order and change-progress.

 

 

Very good point. 

And very enlightening video example of dangers of  demagogues exploiting democracy for their own self-interests.

Dear Leni,

Do not run for President.

Reasons:

1. All the other Presidential aspirants from the Liberal Party already have read and understood the writing on the wall after the Otso Deretso debacle. Follow their lead. It will save you a lot of stress and money. None of you from the Liberal Party will make it if you run today. 
2. You do not have a power base of your own. Power base means having a cohesive group of people around you who are professionals in what they do (experts in logistics, communications, political analysis, political strategies, foreign relations, etc...) , and who wholeheartedly support you because they believe in you and your capability to lead. Look at the people around you. They are there mostly at the behest of someone lurking the background who has vested interest in mind, betting on you so that if you become president, they can manipulate you for their own benefit.
3. You do not have the trust of business leaders as a nation's leader who would put the economic interest of the country ahead of the interest of a few oligarchs who are now supporting you.
4. You do not have the trust of the Military and the Police as somebody who understand national security issues.
5. The US is supporting you only because you are the most pliable for manipulation. They want the Philippines pulled away from having independent foreign policy back to the previous status of subservience to US interests.

On 9/12/2021 at 11:44 PM, Behlat said:

Duterte further divided the country instead of uniting it. 

It's like DDS (may sariling mundo) vs the world. 

This is Duterte's popularity rating from 2016 to 2021 sourced from Pulse Asia.
He does not divide the country. As Pulse Asia records show, the country is united in their approval of Duterte.

3 hours ago, Vince3 said:

tanong lang sa pro bbm. madalas kasi hirit sa aquino, at this topic of bbm kasi, hindi naman siya relevant. 

Ginagawa niyo ba yung hirit sa aquino dahil sinasabi niyo na kupal din aquino kaya ok lang na masama ang ginawa ng marcos? guilty of corruption, thousands of cases ng  rape, torture and murder. Hindi kayo naniniwala na totoo o to or despite na ginawa to ni marcos, naniniwala pa rin kayo kay bongbong? wala sana ko problema dahil anak naman siya and hindi siya gumasa nito pero natatakot ako dahil hindi niya rinerecognize yung injustice na ginawa ng ama niya. 

hindi ito bashing lang, curious lang ako sa side ng thinking ng mga bbm

I lived through Martial Law. I saw corruption and abuses committed by government officials. I thought at that time that Marcos was to blame. 

After Martial Law, I had high hopes that things would be better than before. Then I saw corruption and abuses by government officials, yet again. 

This time, I have realized that corruption and abuses will continue to be endemic in our country, no matter who the president is, because WE, the people, allow it to happen - because the government officials who are elected to position, from barangay kagawad to congressmen and senators, are just a reflection of who we are.

I also realized that from 1960s onwards, only when we have national leaders who have vision and governance skills to get things done, did we see the country making headway in progress, despite the corruption and abuses in the government.

Those periods were during the terms of Ferdinand Marcos, Fidel Ramos, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, and currently, Rodrigo Duterte. These are the presidents who know how to get things done.

Ferdinand Romualdez Marcos, Jr., who has decades of both Executive and Legislative experience, which is better than the current crop of presidential aspirants, has the track record that qualifies him for the job at hand this coming 2022 elections.

I will support him.

On 8/30/2020 at 7:26 PM, oxosigesige said:

Who's family? Aquino family siguro tinutukoy mo ano? Lol

Most likely.

Malakas ang propaganda ng Aquino family, but their dynasty ends with the death of Noynoy Aquino.

Pacquiao and Lacson running as opposition to Duterte Administration's would-be presidential candidate is bad news to the Liberal Party and other opposition bets.
They will divide the votes of opposition candidates.

Dear Peke,

 

Your trolls are working overtime. May pondo na ba para sa kanila?

 

Disgustingly yours,

 

ls

...preparing the ground for upcoming political interference by the new Democrat Biden administration, in their bid to re-install their LP lackeys back to Philippine political power in 2022.

Dear Digong,

 

It seems that Peke's sock puppets have come out of the woodwork. Mukhang may pondo na.

 

Truly yours,

 

ls

Probably funded by Liberal Fil-Ams and pro-oligarch locals in a last-ditch futile effort to bring Du30 down.

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Elected Positions should have appropriate qualifications.

Congressmen and Senators should be lawyers.

Never!

Congress should be made up of people who represent the entire spectrum of the Philippine society.

There should be farmers, soldiers, doctors, businessmen, workers, engineers, teachers, etc... to represent the diverse point of views of the people.

Bias media networks are polluting the mind of the poor people.

Isn't it that the mainstream media are the bastion of truth in news reporting? How can you say they are polluting the minds of the poor people?

 

 

tapos kunwari taxi driver, may kulambo, kumakain sa jollibee....

 

nung una, nag PAL pa tapos ngayon bumili ng sariling eroplano na bilyones gamit pera ng bayan....

 

 

i got ya!

Eroplano? panyero, mukhang di mo kayang patunayan yan ah....

Among the hundreds of my friends and families who are married, there are a handful who are in irreconcilably turbulent relationship. A small minority. That tells you that the vast majority of people in our country take marriage seriously and they make their marriages work.

The government is not preventing people with failed marriages from doing the mature thing and agreeably part ways. They can do that anytime. They can part ways. But they can't marry again while his/her spouse is still alive. There are few things in this country that you're allowed to do only once, and one of those is getting married.