tazmanic Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 grabe na mahal ng gasolina ngayon no? in a few months, the cost has risen by almost 20% already and it seems that there's no end in sight. meron ba kayong mga tips para makatipid sa consumption ng gasolina? ako meron isa, i read in the inquirer that upshifting once the tachometer reaches 2000 rpm results in lower consumption. and when i tried it, it worked! my usage has dropped by more than 40%. i also want to try the energy-saving device for gasoline-fed vehicles called khaos. has anybody tried it? ano masasabi nyo? Quote Link to comment
pedro_del_norte Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 grabe na mahal ng gasolina ngayon no? in a few months, the cost has risen by almost 20% already and it seems that there's no end in sight. meron ba kayong mga tips para makatipid sa consumption ng gasolina? ako meron isa, i read in the inquirer that upshifting once the tachometer reaches 2000 rpm results in lower consumption. and when i tried it, it worked! my usage has dropped by more than 40%. i also want to try the energy-saving device for gasoline-fed vehicles called khaos. has anybody tried it? ano masasabi nyo?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> - unload unnecessary junk of your trunk. more weight means more work for your car to push/pull itself thus more fuel burned.- uninstall overhead carrier (if u have 1 installed) when not being used as it creates aerodynamic drag.- make sure your tires are properly inflated with manufacturer settings.- dont put your aircon thermostat in full setting (coldest) all the time (esp at night).- on a stop/go traffic, use the car's momentum to reach the next stop light / intersection (ex, by going to neutral/depressing clutch after ample acceleration). anticipate next stopping point to avoid abrupt stopping.- avoid abrupt acceleration.- the shortest distance between 2 points is a line. try to maintain a straight line while driving.- avoid installing "fast and the furious" types of bodykits / spoilers / flairings. they add weight and aero drag and they dont really make your car faster (come to think of it, a 400hp BMW sedan doesn't have wings in it, does it?). if u insist in putting this stuff in your car (worthless junk IMO), install one that's at least light or one that was at least developed using a wind tunnel (bet u cant find one of these).- avoid installing aftermarket wheel/tires thats: 1. to heavy 2. wrong size (2 big/2 small/2 wide). the wider the tire, the more rolling resistanse it has. it's a compromise b/w grip. IMHO, stock tire sizes are best suited for max fuel effeciency.- dont neglect periodic maintenance (change oil, etc). a sound car is an effecient car.- they say that when pumping in fuel, pump it slowly so that "air" would not be counted in the meter's indicator. -- not sure if this is true, just a tip i got from a taxi driver. anyway, there's no harm is practicing this. Quote Link to comment
pedro_del_norte Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 as for fuel saving devices (like khaos, aerogas), i'm still skeptical about it. cars today are pretty sensitive so installing one on them is risky, IMO. i have heard testimonial from some, yet some dont actually experience much difference. it's still your choice if u want one installed. but for me, i'd stay away for a while until i see much evidence that it really works. Quote Link to comment
tazmanic Posted November 22, 2004 Author Share Posted November 22, 2004 thanks for the tips dude.. isa pa pala, load up on fuel at nights because it's more dense if ambient temperature is low. remember the perfect gas law? pv=nrt, volume is directly proportional to temperature; it's also applicable to liquids. Quote Link to comment
robo_cop Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 Mag neutral ka nalang pag pababa, pero depende din sa situasyon. I do that kung trapik pababa at unti-unti lang ang andar, or maluwag ang daan ung tipong walang sasakyan sa unahan na biglang prepreno. saka dapat di Zigzag daan. Quote Link to comment
pussywagon Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 yung khaos kasi is an environmental invention. ok sya sa pagbabawas ng carbon emissions. but for saving fuel, di sya always effective sa lahat ng kotse. first of all, di sya pwede sa diesel engines. pag-gasolina lang ito. second, mas effective sya sa mga old cars. third, you see the results after a few months of using it. matagal pa actually bago mo mapansing bumabawas ang konsumo mo sa gasolina. COST: 6,500 merong bagong produkto sa market - fuel max (for sedans/vans) and super fuel max (for trucks). ina-ionize DAW niya mga molecules para walang masayang. di ba ang tubig nagiging ice through the same process? nagkakabit-kabit ang molecules so less spillage, wastage. but i haven't tried this yet. COST: 3,500 Quote Link to comment
tazmanic Posted November 23, 2004 Author Share Posted November 23, 2004 meron na ba ditong gumamit ng khaos? pussywagon natry mo na to? meron sa may amin e, 6,500 rin ang presyo. hindi b sya makakaapekto sa fuel injectin system ng mga oto? Quote Link to comment
Google Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 a tip: walk if you can. marami kasing tao, konting distance lang, would try to drive their cars on their errands. example: within makati area, most of guys here walk. from our office in RCBC Plaza to landmark to glorietta, to legaspi village. helps conserve fuel. helps burn calories. Quote Link to comment
pussywagon Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 meron na ba ditong gumamit ng khaos? pussywagon natry mo na to? meron sa may amin e, 6,500 rin ang presyo. hindi b sya makakaapekto sa fuel injectin system ng mga oto?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> 6,500 talaga yan allover the philippines, inclusive of installation and warranty. sinubukan namin lagyan mga vehicles namin sa office to save on operational costs. di pa masyadong makita ang difference though sinasabi ng inventors na in a few months, dyan pa talagang ma-maximize ang saving measures niya. pero sa emission tests, pasado lahat. tsaka pag nakaparking ka, makikita mong menos ang usok. yung auto ko siguro fuel max na lang kasi 3,500 lang tsaka designed talaga siya to save 20% sa gas. mga dudes, 4000 a month na gastos ko sa gasolina, pakinsyet! taz, anong model ba tsikot mo? itanong mo sa khaos kung pwede sayo yan. Quote Link to comment
gwapogi Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 6,500 talaga yan allover the philippines, inclusive of installation and warranty. sinubukan namin lagyan mga vehicles namin sa office to save on operational costs. di pa masyadong makita ang difference though sinasabi ng inventors na in a few months, dyan pa talagang ma-maximize ang saving measures niya. pero sa emission tests, pasado lahat. tsaka pag nakaparking ka, makikita mong menos ang usok. yung auto ko siguro fuel max na lang kasi 3,500 lang tsaka designed talaga siya to save 20% sa gas. mga dudes, 4000 a month na gastos ko sa gasolina, pakinsyet! taz, anong model ba tsikot mo? itanong mo sa khaos kung pwede sayo yan.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> i've heard that yung khaos mas effective daw sa carburator type kesa sa mga fuel injected system... haven't tried though... ...right now, to save gas (or at least, fuel cost), i COMMUTE... lakas konsumo, makati-cavite-makati, considering traffic pa... damn... ...also, same here, around 4,000K (+-) ang gastos ko... grrrrrr... so i commute na lang... tulog ka pa sa byahe... hehehe... ...well, as for the topic, consider replacing your spark plugs every around 15,000 km... and, your fuel filter, baka di na ok, nakakaapekto definitely... also, the fuel pumps, especially fuel injected cars, baka di na nagba-backflow yung excess fuel, sayang ang pagka fuel injected ng auto nyo...\ ...just my 2 cents ... Quote Link to comment
J-A-Y Posted November 23, 2004 Share Posted November 23, 2004 i read in a motoring segment of a broadsheet that a good way to conserve fuel on a drive is by switching off the engine on an empty stretch. make sure it's safe to, it said. nothing could've been more idiotic. suppose your tire blows out? or all four at the same time in a freak occurence? your braking system's hydraulics won't be there to help you. can't believe that contributor even wrote that article. this was a 'test-drive' of an auv (not as stable as sedans) brand-new model measuring its efficiency. sure, save on gas while imperiling your life as well. hello? drive defensively at all times, remember? stupid writer. Quote Link to comment
tazmanic Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 i've heard that yung khaos mas effective daw sa carburator type kesa sa mga fuel injected system... haven't tried though... ...right now, to save gas (or at least, fuel cost), i COMMUTE... lakas konsumo, makati-cavite-makati, considering traffic pa... damn... ...also, same here, around 4,000K (+-) ang gastos ko... grrrrrr... so i commute na lang... tulog ka pa sa byahe... hehehe...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> ako nga mga 5K pa in a month ang gasolina ko until i tried the driving tip i read sa inquirer; yung mag upshift ka before the tach reaches 2000 rpm. ewan ko kung ano ang implications in the long term, pero right now, my gas consumption is down to less than 4K! i hope wala namang negative effect. the only consequence right now is madali na ko masingitan ng mga hinayupak na jeep at taxi kasi nga mabagal na ko magaccelerate. Quote Link to comment
pedro_del_norte Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 i read in a motoring segment of a broadsheet that a good way to conserve fuel on a drive is by switching off the engine on an empty stretch. make sure it's safe to, it said. nothing could've been more idiotic. suppose your tire blows out? or all four at the same time in a freak occurence? your braking system's hydraulics won't be there to help you. can't believe that contributor even wrote that article. this was a 'test-drive' of an auv (not as stable as sedans) brand-new model measuring its efficiency. sure, save on gas while imperiling your life as well. hello? drive defensively at all times, remember? stupid writer.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> you're right! what an idiotic article! aside from the brakes, you will have a hard time steering yourself off danger since your power steering wont be working. if u wanna save gas, commute! or ride a bike. or walk. or carpool. or buy a vehicle that guzzles up minimal gas (like a kia picanto :cool: or a honda jazz) if only the government do something to make public commuting an inhorrible experience, we'll be saving a lot of gas... but they too are idiots. Quote Link to comment
pussywagon Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 ako nga mga 5K pa in a month ang gasolina ko until i tried the driving tip i read sa inquirer; yung mag upshift ka before the tach reaches 2000 rpm. ewan ko kung ano ang implications in the long term, pero right now, my gas consumption is down to less than 4K! i hope wala namang negative effect. the only consequence right now is madali na ko masingitan ng mga hinayupak na jeep at taxi kasi nga mabagal na ko magaccelerate.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> hmm... talaga? magpalagay nga ng RPM meter. magkano bang damage magpalagay nito? grabe pare ha? 5k! dami na nating makukuhang chix niyan ah... Quote Link to comment
MTBCommuter Posted November 24, 2004 Share Posted November 24, 2004 ako nga mga 5K pa in a month ang gasolina ko until i tried the driving tip i read sa inquirer; yung mag upshift ka before the tach reaches 2000 rpm. ewan ko kung ano ang implications in the long term, pero right now, my gas consumption is down to less than 4K! i hope wala namang negative effect. the only consequence right now is madali na ko masingitan ng mga hinayupak na jeep at taxi kasi nga mabagal na ko magaccelerate.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Once in a while, it will never hurt to go neyond 80kph at 5th gear. It could save you on sparkplugs and helps your engine burn off carbon Quote Link to comment
tazmanic Posted November 24, 2004 Author Share Posted November 24, 2004 hmm... talaga? magpalagay nga ng RPM meter. magkano bang damage magpalagay nito? grabe pare ha? 5k! dami na nating makukuhang chix niyan ah... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hehe oo nga e.. pangmotel rin yun.. la e, byahe ko valenzuela to paranaque everyday.. kaya nga aside from changing my driving habits, commute na rin ako at least once a week para mabawasan pa further ang gastos. ok na lrt ngayon e, di na siksikan Quote Link to comment
jopagong Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 mention na rin natin yung prolonged idling... and planned route, the straighter or shorter the better..of course take in to consideration the traffic in the area, ok lang yung route na medjo malayo kung dire direcho lang, baka in the long run mas tipid ka pa sa gas kesa naka buro ka sa traffic.. Quote Link to comment
gwapogi Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 ako nga mga 5K pa in a month ang gasolina ko until i tried the driving tip i read sa inquirer; yung mag upshift ka before the tach reaches 2000 rpm. ewan ko kung ano ang implications in the long term, pero right now, my gas consumption is down to less than 4K! i hope wala namang negative effect. the only consequence right now is madali na ko masingitan ng mga hinayupak na jeep at taxi kasi nga mabagal na ko magaccelerate.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> oo nga... have been trying as early as today yung 2000 rpm change shift, nga lang, medyo bad trip nga kasi kapag hatawan (especially sa coastal road / talaba area) during stop and go (yung one way lahat papunta manila), pucha, kapag babagal-bagal ka sisingitan ka ng walang katapusan... long term effect? given na medyo hirap ang makina sumungkit ng bwelo, probably effects (if any) would be later on, say, after 5 to six years na ganyan... Quote Link to comment
gwapogi Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 you're right! what an idiotic article! aside from the brakes, you will have a hard time steering yourself off danger since your power steering wont be working. if u wanna save gas, commute! or ride a bike. or walk. or carpool. or buy a vehicle that guzzles up minimal gas (like a kia picanto :cool: or a honda jazz) if only the government do something to make public commuting an inhorrible experience, we'll be saving a lot of gas... but they too are idiots.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> ha? me article bang ganyan? WTF... bobo writer dyan... malamang either brand new pa auto nyan, o insured sya, both life and car, or bobo lang talaga... ...save gas on commuting... or even, kung kaya mo mag-bike, i-bike mo na lang, exercise na, cool ka pa...!!! Quote Link to comment
coolestboy Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 have you heard about khaos gas saving device? do you have any comments on this? They say it saves 50% on gas consumption Quote Link to comment
marvin_8 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 ... i consume 1900 on full tank ......i gas up 6 times a week ......malakas diba ? it would be better if you just buy a fuel efficient sedan ...that of a Toyota .... 1300 or 1800 ..pag 2.0 binili mo .. mabilis nga .. ubos naman pera mo...tama yun nagshi-shift agad when accelerating para tipid sa gas .. u don't need a tachometer .. matatantiya mo na yun ... pag nakreklamo na makina mo sa gear mo .. u need to shift .. better if u shift bago siya magreklamo ...... yun ang matipid...it all depends on the driver .... kung mabigat ang paa mo sa gas .. e problema mo na yun ....u don't need to step on it that hard... if u want to save .. don't use velocity ... high octane madali masunog ng makina .... unleaded na lang .. yun din naman ang pinakamurang gas e .... :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
javameister Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 grabe na mahal ng gasolina ngayon no? in a few months, the cost has risen by almost 20% already and it seems that there's no end in sight. meron ba kayong mga tips para makatipid sa consumption ng gasolina? ako meron isa, i read in the inquirer that upshifting once the tachometer reaches 2000 rpm results in lower consumption. and when i tried it, it worked! my usage has dropped by more than 40%.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Shifting to the next higher gear upon reaching 1,500 to 2,000 rpm helps save a lot on gas consumption. Avoiding jackrabbit starts and revving in neutral can help too. And, of course, making sure that you follow your car's preventive maintenance schedule can contribute to fuel savings. Quote Link to comment
MTBCommuter Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 maganda daw yung khaos, a friend of mine tested it. okay daw Quote Link to comment
tazmanic Posted December 3, 2004 Author Share Posted December 3, 2004 pwede ba ang khaos sa mga kotse na fuel-injected? or pang de karburador lang? Quote Link to comment
LostCommand Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 (edited) Drive a turbo diesel (TD). They are at least 20 percent more efficient than a gas engine of the same (pulling power) torque output. And the modern electronically controlled ones (Mercedes TD/BMW TD) accelerate just like a gas engine, for 20 percent less fuel cost. But if you have already staked your money on a gas engine car...yari ka na bata. Edited December 3, 2004 by LostCommand Quote Link to comment
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