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#1 daphne loves derby

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Posted 04 August 2017 - 12:52 PM

What are your thoughts on this?

 

 

 

Kelangan na lang bantayan ang implementing Rules and Regulations.

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 01:44 PM

At present, tuition fees in State Universities are subsidized. 

 

The quality of education is generally poor because of lack of funds for teaching facilities and competent instructors/ professors.

 

If it's going to be 100% free tuition for state universities and colleges. I foresee the quality of education to get even worse due to funding constraints.



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Posted 05 August 2017 - 01:54 PM

I would rather see the privilege of 100% free tuition in State Universities and Colleges (SUCs) given only to those who pass a very stringent qualifying exams similar to UPCAT.

 

The free tuition privilege should be given to any student applicant regardless of economic status ( rich or poor), the only criteria is being intelligent and motivated enough to pass the admission tests and psychological interviews.

 

Others who donot pass the free-tuition admission test can still enroll and be entitled to subsidized tuition.



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Posted 05 August 2017 - 07:10 PM

Ang PLM dati (pwera na lang yung Manila Born/Residents na eme nila) 100% walang tuition. Yun lang if you go beyond required GPA, magbabayad ka na ng tuition although minimal pa rin.

To think, PLM graduates are one of the best sa aten. Imagine how much the family would spend for a Medicine student from PLM compare with other med school.

In the end, mas maraming makakapagtapos na filipino,Pilipinas pa rin naman makikinabang. So salamat sa free college na iyan. Salamat sa mga tax payers! :)

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Posted 05 August 2017 - 07:55 PM

Ang PLM dati (pwera na lang yung Manila Born/Residents na eme nila) 100% walang tuition. Yun lang if you go beyond required GPA, magbabayad ka na ng tuition although minimal pa rin.

To think, PLM graduates are one of the best sa aten. Imagine how much the family would spend for a Medicine student from PLM compare with other med school.

In the end, mas maraming makakapagtapos na filipino,Pilipinas pa rin naman makikinabang. So salamat sa free college na iyan. Salamat sa mga tax payers! :)

 

The PLM free tuition, subsidized tuition, and strict admission policy for qualified residents of the city as well as top graduates from outside the city,  is one of the examples of what I posted above. PLM produces the some of the Philippines best graduates equivalent to, or maybe even surpassing UP graduates.

 

Other SUCs, however succumb to typical Filipino patronage politics and end up taking in more students than they can handle resulting to half-baked graduates who do not meet the knowledge and skills, attitude, and working habits required by the available jobs today. 


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Posted 05 August 2017 - 11:38 PM

Education is one of the most important pillars of our society and might also be the only way for this country to get out of poverty.   This bill will solve the education part, however, we also need to remember that it is necessary to create the environment that is conducive for the youth to learn.  It would be very difficult to study with an empty stomach. 

 

Another question that emerges is the sustainability of this bill and how to safeguard it from exploitation.  



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Posted 06 August 2017 - 02:56 AM

We have to limit enrolment in SCU to poor but deserving students. Those who can pay either pay premium school fees or enroll in private colleges and universities.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 04:05 AM

I talked to a German engineer and he relates the parallel systems they got to gain a credential. One system is technical. You learn hands on in the work place. In return, you get a salary since you are working already and not a full scholar. But this system will be less short, however not less tedious. The quality control is basically your hands on training and qualifying tests.

 

The other system is formal education. This is more theoretical but nonetheless requires hands on applications. In this system, you are a full scholar, paid or sponsored. You are relieved of duties and while at the program, you have no income or compensation.

 

Even if the tuition fees are free, a full scholar will be relieved of duties. The student in the technical system has work and earn a living while gaining credentials. Moreover, the system can be crossed match, equivalent levels of training and know how. So you can start with formal education and switch to technical in the later process.

 

Our problem is credentials are based on certifications by regulatory commissions which have leaks and corruption to face. A Filipino may have excellent credentials but cannot perform in his chosen field of expertise. Educators themselves are not qualified to teach their subjects since they fail on the basics of what they are teaching. Education system must be course dictated and if you cannot perform then you cannot level up. There is no need to say you are top of your class since the system is skills based and not really according to potential talents. There will be citations and honors or accelerated programs but your performance is really based on final output and not on paperwork.

 

The pressing issue of Filipino education is it is rejected in other countries since credentials are empty of ability and largely paperwork only. Often because of poor educators who spread error, the class is burdened to suffer from obstacles that harm fundamental knowledge which they need to unlearn first for progress and development to take place.



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Posted 06 August 2017 - 11:02 AM

and how is the state going to pay for it?



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Posted 06 August 2017 - 12:57 PM

dapat ung Senior high school ung free education instead of college. mas beneficial Ang skills learned there and could help landing a job.

college education not really used here as there is no right market to use them. most college graduates just go to bpo or abroad.

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Posted 06 August 2017 - 08:21 PM

dito sa Canada di free but the student can take a government loan to pay for tuition.

 

mas ok yun kasi magsisikap yung student mag aral at mag hanap ng work after kasi nga may babayaran na loan

 

the interest is very low and very long terms of payment

 

mas ok yung ganito keysa totally free



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 01:01 AM

dapat ung Senior high school ung free education instead of college. mas beneficial Ang skills learned there and could help landing a job.
college education not really used here as there is no right market to use them. most college graduates just go to bpo or abroad.


Considered as free education ang Senior High School kasi they get 22,500 voucher from the government para sa tuition nila.

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Posted 07 August 2017 - 02:52 AM

Well, almost everybody is rejoicing that this free-tuition-fee bill is now finally a “law”. 

 

BUT it seems like their delight would considerably put on hold since I've read somewhere that the approval of this Universal Access to Quality Tertiary Education Act was unexpected considering how his economic managers have openly opposed the bill, saying the government does not have enough funds to sustain it.

 

So it goes without saying that such approval was done on the spur of the moment. It means it was done abruptly. Unplanned. Unintended. Haphazard. Aimless, etc. WTF! Parang naalimpungatan lang at inaprub na? Bakit minadali?

 

And here's another news right after that signing, No more free tuition in state schools in 2018.

 

#ningaskugon2018



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 11:22 AM

Well, almost everybody is rejoicing that this free-tuition-fee bill is now finally a “law”. 

 

BUT it seems like their delight would considerably put on hold since I've read somewhere that the approval of this Universal Access to Quality Tertiary Education Act was unexpected considering how his economic managers have openly opposed the bill, saying the government does not have enough funds to sustain it.

 

So it goes without saying that such approval was done on the spur of the moment. It means it was done abruptly. Unplanned. Unintended. Haphazard. Aimless, etc. WTF! Parang naalimpungatan lang at inaprub na? Bakit minadali?

 

And here's another news right after that signing, No more free tuition in state schools in 2018.

 

#ningaskugon2018

 

It is now a LAW, which means, the congress will allot budget on it EVERY YEAR (whether they like it or not)



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 11:52 AM

 

It is now a LAW, which means, the congress will allot budget on it EVERY YEAR (whether they like it or not)

 

 

The issue is NOT whether it is valid or not to become a law regardless of the availability of the funds but rather the reason behind that abrupt approval despite the opposition of his economic managers. O baka naman isa na namang pa-pogi points ito? OR should I say hilaw na pa-pogi points.



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 12:43 PM

 

 

The issue is NOT whether it is valid or not to become a law regardless of the availability of the funds but rather the reason behind that abrupt approval despite the opposition of his economic managers. O baka naman isa na namang pa-pogi points ito? OR should I say hilaw na pa-pogi points.

 

Si Drilon na nagsabi, OA ang computations ng economic managers ni Du30, nasa 400-500M lang ang kelangan adjustment yearly hindi Billions.

IMHO, regardless of abrupt approval or not, the benefits (esp long term) outweighs the concerns. 



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 01:24 PM

Naku, from INQ. Asahan na ang twist  :rolleyes:



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 01:44 PM

May Budget na ba gov't para dito?



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 01:46 PM

my opinion on the topic. 

 

1. its monumental. its like inviting everyone to a free dinner... every night :) 

- its really good for those who cannot afford education

- its daunting for those who pays for it (taxpayers)

 

2. sen lacson has a good point. 

- but we still need to educate people nonetheless. kahit bobo and all.

- educated people can be workers and uneducated people scour the streets... they will be the problem of the future police people. (this means, we train police and thieves at the same time) 

- we still need to educate everyone... maybe those who cant do anything can be used as military, army men (drivers, cooks, cleaners, errand people etc.)

 

3. I guess the only way to filter out good and bad is to raise the standards of education... where the fallen can be taught skills training... 

 

4. the only way to create jobs in my opinion is to expand away from manila. make new cities and create new economies... 



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Posted 07 August 2017 - 02:50 PM

What is the status of this?  Is this signed into LAW already or is it true that they discontinued this?  Is this different from free tuition for MEDICAL students for 8 SUCs (UPM is one of them, i forgot the others but mostly provincial).







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