Supplements - to Take or Not to Take?

[vanillasky]

sir, try to take the minimum dosage first sir then increase to tolerance, take it 30mins before meals

but before starting your dosage, list down your typical workout day and meal plan for the day, adjust accordingly to your desired target then take it from there

 

 

nagminimum dosage ako for 1 week... then 2caps 1 hour before lunch and 2 caps 5pm bago umuwi .. ok na bayun pre..

[Dan.]

Diet season will soon be over. Good bye thermogenics hello creatine :cool:

 

Hi Jacques.

Why is it all suppplements have a disclaimer that says "these statements have not evaluated by the FDA"?

[BEaST-RiPPed]

anyone here knows how to use the topical cream yohimburn?

[runningbull]

My work out schedule has been pathetic the last two weeks, just when I went back to taking creatine. No thanks to my work load.

 

Jacques, do you take creatine daily even if your work out schedule is irregular? I can still manage (actually, drag myself)to work out 2-3 times weekly, though I get to skip a day or two sometimes. Appreciate your input.

[Jacques]

Hi Jacques.

Why is it all suppplements have a disclaimer that says "these statements have not evaluated by the FDA"?

Hmmm.... If I'm correct, the FDA's (Food & Drug Administration) purpose is to actually test if a product (food products, drugs/medicine, vitamins/supplements)

1.) is safe for human consumption

2.) identifies and quantifies and verifies the macro and micro nutritional content (that can be seen listed under the nutrition facts if it's a food/beverage/food supplement product)

3.) reviews the studies and test that've been done to prove the purpose of the product (if it's a drug/medicine) if it claims to treat a certain ailment

 

As for most, if not all supplements, it's common to see the label "these statements have not evaluated by the FDA" Why? The simple answer is that because they are mere supplements. In other words, they are not there to replace the basic nutrition our body needs from food sources. Thus, it's not always safe to say that "Product X is the reason why Juan Dela Cruz turned to captain barbell." athletes/bodybuilders/models have the body they have because of their lifestyle (training and diet). I think the FDA can not endorse or even evaluate the claims of supplement companies with regards to their products because you have the basic assumption that the test subjects are basically people who still take in food. Thus, you can not establish a direct link wether or not if he/she has a great body/has performance enhanced just by taking the supplement alone.

 

This is why we've always said that before experimenting with supplements, it is important to evaluate and fix your current diet first. Maybe you don't see progress because you're taking to little of this or too much of that. When you're confident enough of your diet, for me that's the best time to consider supplements. It doesn't hurt to ask around or do your own research also.

 

I hope I was able to answer your question.

[Jacques]

My work out schedule has been pathetic the last two weeks, just when I went back to taking creatine. No thanks to my work load.

 

Jacques, do you take creatine daily even if your work out schedule is irregular? I can still manage (actually, drag myself)to work out 2-3 times weekly, though I get to skip a day or two sometimes. Appreciate your input.

To answer your question, yes I do take creatine everyday. Although I'm not sure if my approach would work for you, here's my input as requested. Since I was never a fan of new creatine products like CEE (creatine ethyl ester), CAKG (creatine alphaketaglutarate), Kre-Alkalyn and etc., I stick with the good old micronized creatine monohydrate powder. My research tells me that this is still the best reliable creatine form out their backed by solid research. When I cycle with ceatine, I usually go thru what they'd call the loading phase (some people actually don't think this is necessarry): 5 days of 15-20 grams of creatine split to 2-4 servings. For maintenance, I usually take 5 grams with my protein shake after I work out. On none work out days, I take it during breakfast or maybe lunch. I manage to train 4 to 5 times a week with a split program. The duration of my creatine intake wouldn't last for more than a month or 2. Then, I lay off creatine for a month or 2 also.

 

My opinion: If you can't establish a regular work out schedule, I don't think creatine is necessary. If your workload is too much maybe creatine is not the answer. Maybe you're stressed? Overworked? Have an inconsistent diet? If you think creatine will fix your energy requirements, yes it will help you train harder and longer but not change your physique as I assume that's what the majority's goal.

 

To put it more clearly: "Sayang ang ang damo kung hindi tumatakbo ang kabayo" :thumbsupsmiley:

[sikosci]

nagminimum dosage ako for 1 week... then 2caps 1 hour before lunch and 2 caps 5pm bago umuwi .. ok na bayun pre..

 

okay na yun sir

[runningbull]

To answer your question, yes I do take creatine everyday. Although I'm not sure if my approach would work for you, here's my input as requested. Since I was never a fan of new creatine products like CEE (creatine ethyl ester), CAKG (creatine alphaketaglutarate), Kre-Alkalyn and etc., I stick with the good old micronized creatine monohydrate powder. My research tells me that this is still the best reliable creatine form out their backed by solid research. When I cycle with ceatine, I usually go thru what they'd call the loading phase (some people actually don't think this is necessarry): 5 days of 15-20 grams of creatine split to 2-4 servings. For maintenance, I usually take 5 grams with my protein shake after I work out. On none work out days, I take it during breakfast or maybe lunch. I manage to train 4 to 5 times a week with a split program. The duration of my creatine intake wouldn't last for more than a month or 2. Then, I lay off creatine for a month or 2 also.

 

My opinion: If you can't establish a regular work out schedule, I don't think creatine is necessary. If your workload is too much maybe creatine is not the answer. Maybe you're stressed? Overworked? Have an inconsistent diet? If you think creatine will fix your energy requirements, yes it will help you train harder and longer but not change your physique as I assume that's what the majority's goal.

 

To put it more clearly: "Sayang ang ang damo kung hindi tumatakbo ang kabayo" :thumbsupsmiley:

 

 

Thanks a lot for your inputs, Jacques.

 

I've always used creatine monohydrate powder, and only tried the liquid form once (also consulted your opinion a while back and went back to the powder). My creatine intake does not exceed 5-6 weeks. Only before, I get to work out 4 days a week split program. Now I only get to work out 3 days a week and sometimes even just 2 days a week.

 

Yes, I believe I am stressed and overworked, but I still manage to eat properly. My goal for now is just to maintain my work out intensity, train harder and longer, since I work out in the evening after office. Working out sort of relieves me of stress. I'm not at my best physique, but I'm still fairly okay... or so I think.

 

Appreciate your inputs, always. :thumbsupsmiley:

[paolo22]

hi all!

 

sorry too lazy to back read....

 

how much does designer whey cost? and what brand would you recommend?

 

i am planning on buying some, but i really have no idea on what....

 

sasawa na ko kakabili sa fruit magic ng shake eh....

 

 

hahaha. the fruit magic and "add protein"stuff

try ON protein by optimum nutrition, cheaper than designer and better nutrition content.. comes in rocky road, double chocolate, strawberry and vanilla ice cream flavors. (vanilla sucks, so far the best flavor i've tried is rocky road and choco)

5lbs. costs roughly around P2300-2500 outside. hope this helps man

[chimaybleu]

sino nagkaka acne or pimples sa protein shake? i tried Optimum Nutrition, ang dami kong pimples sa likod tska sa shoulders, ano kayang protein drink ang di ka mag kaka pimples?

Edited May 15, 2007 by chimaybleu

[sikosci]

sino nagkaka acne or pimples sa protein shake? i tried Optimum Nutrition, ang dami kong pimples sa likod tska sa shoulders, ano kayang protein drink ang di ka mag kaka pimples?

 

 

i think lahat ng whey powder would cause pimples eh...ako din kahit nung designer whey pa lang ang gamit ko me pimples na ako lagi s likod

[freezer]

try to look for designer whey that is not synthetic. if you want you can try my whey protein added in a plant protein. it's safe and effective. if your pimple occur again, you can send it back to me and i'll give you full refund.

[dedbol]

to those who tried creatine: what are the most obvious effects? i gained almost 20lbs of muscle and fat when i was taking it but now i dropped back.

e kung kumain na lang ako ng egg white instead of whey protein? i have access to tons of eggs. so pwede sakin kahit 100 eggs a day

[Jacques]

to those who tried creatine: what are the most obvious effects? i gained almost 20lbs of muscle and fat when i was taking it but now i dropped back.

e kung kumain na lang ako ng egg white instead of whey protein? i have access to tons of eggs. so pwede sakin kahit 100 eggs a day

 

The initial weight gain (mostly water and increased glycogen stored in muscles) is the most consistent effect of taking creatine. I'd personally note that I was able to push myself further when lifting weights may it be more reps or heavier weight.

 

Although Egg Albumen/protein has a good amino acid profile like whey, I don't think it would be a great idea to stuff a 100 egg whites a day. That would roughly be 300 to 400 grams of protein already (Thus, I hope you're only exaggerating). Moreover, one selling point of whey protein is its preparation convinience. Preparing eggs takes more time due to cooking/peeling the shell and the worse part, chugging this tasteless morsel while trying to ignore the smell. Although eggs are a bodybuilding staple food, whey is a better choice post workout because whey is digested and absorbed very quickly.

 

I hope I was able to answer your query.

 

Happy Lifting.

[roy333]

anyone here knows how to use the topical cream yohimburn?

 

whats yohimburn suppose to do? does anyone know where to get some epherdrin? (spelling may be off)