Thomas_Durnst Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 wine collector an avid fan here, know any wine bars near the qc area? Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 The same article says that pinot noir is now the focus of "a collective concentration of interest" in the valley. They believe pinot noir is the future of the valley as vineyards expand up the slopes - as long as they're properly trellised. They agree that higher elevations will produce elegant, light-bodied and deep-flavored pinots, though if will take ten years to know. As of now I think Anderson Valley is noted for their gewurtztraminers.... Now why is it that pinot noirs are quite expensive?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, shows you how much _I_ know about growing grapes!!! There IS some northern exposure slope in the valley, and I guess higher up would be better. But without that morning marine layer of fog, I wonder just how the grapes will turn out. We'll find out in a few years. Gewurtztraminer should grow there since it would be kinda like the Rhein valley in weather (except for the milder winters) - although I really wouldn't know since I'm not really into whites. I do like a good, crisp reisling and a good un-oaked, citrusy chablis (which is really chardonnay from the town and environs of Chablis in France!). Pinot noir is a notoriously fickle grape. Hard to make into a good wine, easy to go wrong. When not done well (and sometimes, even when all seems to go right!), there's the characteristic "barnyard" aroma that creeps in. Kinda like standing in the mud, having a wet sheep taking a dump at your feet. If you didn't know better you'd swear it was one heck of a case of corking, although it is a decidedly different. Corking smells to me like well-used sweat socks that have started to ferment. With pinots it's really a barnyard smell. Oregon seems to be good for pinots and a couple of Burgundian domaines have set up shop there - Drouhin, for one. The wines are pretty good! Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 wine collector an avid fan here, know any wine bars near the qc area?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> welcome to our little wine bar, Mr. Durnst I'm not sure if there are any wine bars per se in the QC area. If you read a few pages back, there's mention of a certain wine store near the Timog Rotonda that offers customers free sips of the wine they sell plus some amenities which a regular wine store does not offer - like couches or something.Some restos in the area have good wines on stock. Katre has some Los Boldos before - good value wines for dinner. I don't know what they have now. Restaurante Uno I know also offers some good wines because the owner is very particular about the wines they have on stock. Aresi had a good selection but the resto has closed down.... Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 10, 2004 Author Share Posted December 10, 2004 Well, shows you how much _I_ know about growing grapes!!! There IS some northern exposure slope in the valley, and I guess higher up would be better. But without that morning marine layer of fog, I wonder just how the grapes will turn out. We'll find out in a few years. Gewurtztraminer should grow there since it would be kinda like the Rhein valley in weather (except for the milder winters) - although I really wouldn't know since I'm not really into whites. I do like a good, crisp reisling and a good un-oaked, citrusy chablis (which is really chardonnay from the town and environs of Chablis in France!). Pinot noir is a notoriously fickle grape. Hard to make into a good wine, easy to go wrong. When not done well (and sometimes, even when all seems to go right!), there's the characteristic "barnyard" aroma that creeps in. Kinda like standing in the mud, having a wet sheep taking a dump at your feet. If you didn't know better you'd swear it was one heck of a case of corking, although it is a decidedly different. Corking smells to me like well-used sweat socks that have started to ferment. With pinots it's really a barnyard smell. Oregon seems to be good for pinots and a couple of Burgundian domaines have set up shop there - Drouhin, for one. The wines are pretty good!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> yup pare it says that fog rolls in only during summer nights and evaporates under the warm midday sun. There's no fog in winter and no snow but plenty of rain.Gewurtztraminer thrives in the valley because of its cool summer nights. The founder of Anderson Valley's Lazy Creek Vineyards was forced to plant traminers because as a waiter before, he had a hard time convincing patrons to order whites because they said it was too sour. G-traminers, with their low acidity and strong flavors, was the perfect answer..I'm not familiar with pinot noirs so I learned a lot about your post - about their distinctive taste. Yup Oregon is the place for pinot noirs but they're mighty expensive and none is available here... Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Went to a holiday party last Saturday. It being the drunken photogrpahers group, there was lots of wine! Memorable wines - 2002 Fenestra Semonnay (blend of semillon and chardonnay) was a hit! I humbly claim credit for that - it was one of 4 I brought to the festivities. Clean, crisp wit hhints of green apple and honeydew melon. Nice acitidity. I should have saved this one - it will get better for another couple of years. 1992 (yes! 1992!) Rosenblum Zin - wow. Still enough tannins for structure, and the fruit was still fresh. A great example of wht you can do with zins. Plums, rpunes on the nose, berries of all sorts on the front palate and a nice plum finish to the back end. 2000 Summers Charbono - not as ponderous as a syrah, not as light as a zin. A hint of that pepper finish but nice jammy fruit. Enough tannins to make it stand up. Not a flabby, fleshy wine, but rather one that excites and tickles. (I'll take credit for this one as well. This was the second to the last of my case that I bought earlier this year. Time to go buy another case!) I also met Dana Bruce, son of David Bruce of Santa Cruz winery fame. He's getting back into the wine business after 15 years of "trying to find himself" as we used to say in the hippie days. And as an added bonus, two of the photographers I respect most at the gathering told me my prints (I only brought 2) were the best of the night. If the wine didn't get me drunk, that would have! All in all, a good wine drinking weekend! Quote Link to comment
hotchic_primrose Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 i love wines...especially red wines, but lately im inlove with franzia (is this the right spelling?) nweiz it's good... Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 i love wines...especially red wines, but lately im inlove with franzia (is this the right spelling?) nweiz it's good...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> hello there!yup, you got it right...Reds they say is good for the health...we hope you go on to savor the other reds out there - cabernets, shiraz, merlot....Aussies, Chileans, Californians, South Africans....the selections are limitless.cheers! Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted December 14, 2004 Share Posted December 14, 2004 hello there!yup, you got it right...Reds they say is good for the health...we hope you go on to savor the other reds out there - cabernets, shiraz, merlot....Aussies, Chileans, Californians, South Africans....the selections are limitless.cheers!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> There's what's called the French paradox. The French eat lots of bad stuff loaded with fat and sugar - dessserts of all sorts loaded with cream, lots of cheese, foie gras, beef, snails drowned in butter.........yet they have a lower rate of heart disease than the US and many other countries. Why? It's now commonly believed that it's due in (large) part to their prodigious comsumption of wine, with RED wine being the greatest contributor. So - I have my healthy meals - beef, lots of butter, shrimp, crab, lobster, etc., AND a glass or two of red wine. After all, it's worked for the french for centuries, why can't it work for me? Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 14, 2004 Author Share Posted December 14, 2004 There's what's called the French paradox. The French eat lots of bad stuff loaded with fat and sugar - dessserts of all sorts loaded with cream, lots of cheese, foie gras, beef, snails drowned in butter.........yet they have a lower rate of heart disease than the US and many other countries. Why? It's now commonly believed that it's due in (large) part to their prodigious comsumption of wine, with RED wine being the greatest contributor. So - I have my healthy meals - beef, lots of butter, shrimp, crab, lobster, etc., AND a glass or two of red wine. After all, it's worked for the french for centuries, why can't it work for me?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not just in France, pare. There's this what they call a Mediterranean diet which consists, among others, consumption of red wine. People in France, Italy, Crete, Portugal, Spain - Mediterranean countries generally enjoy lower rates of heart disease. People there also tend to live longer. In fact, a 101-year old wine-swigging grandpa in Crete was recently accused of sexual harrasment Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 hey guys!Am going to WineDepot on Friday (may free tasting daw pag Friday :evil: )anybody care to meet up for an impromptu get-to-know thingie?I'd be there around 5 or 6pm.... Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Not just in France, pare. There's this what they call a Mediterranean diet which consists, among others, consumption of red wine. People in France, Italy, Crete, Portugal, Spain - Mediterranean countries generally enjoy lower rates of heart disease. People there also tend to live longer. In fact, a 101-year old wine-swigging grandpa in Crete was recently accused of sexual harrasment <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cool! When I'm 101 I hope I'm still capable of being charged with sexual harassment!!! Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 (edited) Cool! When I'm 101 I hope I'm still capable of being charged with sexual harassment!!!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh to outlive our women and be able to flirt at 90!Red wine is a great aphrodisiac. Nothing beats the heat of reds coursing through your veins Nothing beats being with a woman with only a bottle of cabernet between the two of you :evil: Edited December 15, 2004 by bods1000 Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 16, 2004 Author Share Posted December 16, 2004 SIDEWAYS, that film about the absurdist world of the wine-obsessive, has, would you believe, been chosen as one of the best films of 2004 by the American Film Institute. I wonder where I can get a copy of this - is this out on video na? The chances of Manila theaters showing this film here is as slim as finding a Petrus in my cellar Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted December 16, 2004 Author Share Posted December 16, 2004 pareng agxo, there are 3 types of Ravenswood zins at WineDepot - the Vintner's Blend, the County Series Napa Valley and the County Series Sonoma County. Which is the best ba? thanks.... Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 pareng agxo, there are 3 types of Ravenswood zins at WineDepot - the Vintner's Blend, the County Series Napa Valley and the County Series Sonoma County. Which is the best ba? thanks....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> What vintage? On the whole, I'd go with the Vintner's Blend. And for zins, with the exception of '95, Sonoma zins have been generally better than Napa Valley zins, although there's at least one zin vineyard in Napa that's very highly rgarded. Vintner's Blend - 1999 and 200 were steller years. 2001 a bit less so, 2002 is a bit young with no more than 12 months in the bottle. I think they barrel their zins 12 months in second year oak. Quote Link to comment
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