Back To The 70's

[storm]

Pareng Anaheim,

 

Kapag sinabing burgis nung 70s, ang ibig sabihin ay elitista or sosyal --- the exact opposite of bakya, meaning pangmasa. Baduy refers more to a person's taste in clothing or porma. Remember the song "Ang Boyfriend kong Baduy". Nang lumaon ay lumawak na ang gamit ng salitang ito: Ang baduy ng bahay, ang baduy ng tipar, ang baduy ng sounds, ang baduy magsalita, ano na namang kabaduyan iyan?, etc.

 

Sa pananamit o porma noon, basta isinuot na ng artista -- BADUY na.

[Magaling]

Tama si Pareng Storm :cool:

 

Yung "bakya" in the 60s, naging "baduy" in the 70s. The term "baduy" stuck on for a long time.

 

Other terms also came out and became popular for a while. These include "T-H" which came out in the 80s from the words "trying hard". Later, the word "cheap" (as in "ang cheap mo hah") also took on a new meaning.

 

Eventually, the term "jologs" came out.

Edited September 23, 2004 by Magaling

[Anaheim]

here's a snapshot from the photo gallery in the Bonus Feature DVD disc of the Godfather Trilogy which I've bought at Quiapo.

 

Al Pacino (Michael Corleone) and Robert De Niro (Vito Corleone) in the behind-the-scene of the Godfather Part II (1974). Both actors weren't seen together in that movie. Several years later both actors reunited in Michael Mann's HEAT.

Edited September 23, 2004 by Anaheim

[jt2003]

Yung "bakya" in the 60s, naging "baduy" in the 70s. The term "baduy" stuck on for a long time.

 

Eventually, the term "jologs" came out.

The term "bakya" was far more easy to define. If you were into the Guy&Pip thing (or Edgar-Vilma, etc), you were "bakya." If you watched "Superstar," then you were bakya. The term, as pareng Anaheim pointed out, had a lot to do with Pinoy showbiz love teams.

 

But the term "baduy" was more problematic. Anyone could be baduy, depending on who was criticizing whom. For instance, I remember that people who loved hard rock enjoyed calling people who listened to disco, well, baduy. In school, one cheering team called another baduy, and vice-versa. So there was really no clear definition of baduy. You could simply hate a person... and call him baduy.

 

I believe the term "jologs" has the same problems. There used to be a "What does jologs mean" thread in mtc where there was quite a debate on the actual scope and definition of "jologs." As with the 1970s "baduy," the term "jologs" is subject to as many interpretations as there are people.

[jt2003]

here's a snapshot from the photo gallery in the Bonus Feature DVD disc of the Godfather Trilogy which I've bought at Quiapo.

 

Al Pacino (Michael Corleone) and Robert De Niro (Vito Corleone) in the behind-the-scene of the Godfather Part II (1974). Both actors weren't seen together in that movie. Several years later both actors reunited in Michael Mann's HEAT.

Some lines from "The Godfather" series (from memory):

 

"I love America."

"What have I done for you to treat me so disrespectfully?"

"May her first child be a masculine child."

"That's my family, Kay, not me."

"I'll make him an offer he can't refuse."

"Aaah, aaah, aaah..." (upon seeing the head of his dead horse on his bed)

"Look, what they did to my boy!"

"But then your daughter would be losing a father, instead of gaining a husband."

"You don't talk to Mo Green like that!"

"Fredo, you're my brother, and I love you. But never take sides against the family again."

"Whoever approaches you, he's the traitor."

"Just don't lie to me. It insults my intelligence."

"Can you get me out of this, Tom? For old time's sake."

"Just this once, you can ask about my business."

"Don Corleone..."

 

 

"You and I are part of the same hypocrisy, Senator. But never think it applies to my family."

"Ask about me. I know how to repay a favor."

"Why didn't we have this conversation before?"

"You take care of me? I'm your older brother!"

"It had nothing to do with business!"

"They can win."

"Salud! Salud! Salud!"

"You broke my heart, Fredo. You broke my heart."

"This committee owes my client an apology!"

"I don't want to k*ll everyone. Just my enemies."

"Many times your father and I talked about your future."

"Stupid!"

Edited September 23, 2004 by jt2003

[storm]

Tama si Pareng Storm :cool:

 

Yung "bakya" in the 60s, naging "baduy" in the 70s. The term "baduy" stuck on for a long time.

 

Other terms also came out and became popular for a while. These include "T-H" which came out in the 80s from the words "trying hard". Later, the word "cheap" (as in "ang cheap mo hah") also took on a new meaning.

 

Eventually, the term "jologs" came out.

Pero bago dumating ang jologs, may jeproks na nung 70s. Naiba lang ang meaning nung kinanta na ni pareng Mike 'Hagibis' Hanopol yung 'Laki sa Layaw, Jeproks'

[bods1000]

So sorry for the slight correction but Peter Frampton never used a Wah pedal for the song, "SHOW ME THE WAY". The device, although sounding a bit like a Wah, is actually what is referred to as a Heil Talk Box. A major difference is that while the wah is controlled by the foot, the Talk Box box is controlled by a plastic pipe that the guitar player blows on to produce the sound. The pipe is usually held in place by mounting it in the mic stand. Some people missed seeing this as the pipe is transluscent.

 

This device's plastic pipe can be seen in pictures and videos of Frampton performing the song. The device was generally used in the seventies but fell out of trend in the 80's and up.

 

THe Heil Talk Box was recently ressurected when Bon Jovi Guitar player, Ritchie Sambora used the device in the hit song, "ITs MY LIFE". The video also shows Sambora blowing on the pipe to alter the notes coming from his guitar. The difference in the Bon Jovi intro and the Frampton guitar work demonstrates the wonderful versatility of this gadget.

 

Jimi Hendrix' era was not the 70's technically as he died in September of 1970--although his music and guitar blazing spirit still influences every generation that came next.

very nice info pare - coming from a true-blue musician!

How's it going, pare? Do you still do gigs aside from your regular work?

 

Hendrix was one of a kind - a black guitarist coming out of nowhere in a world of white rockers then. No one before him and no one since....

[sally bogna mathay]

Pero bago dumating ang jologs, may jeproks na nung 70s. Naiba lang ang meaning nung kinanta na ni pareng Mike 'Hagibis' Hanopol yung 'Laki sa Layaw, Jeproks'

 

pag ka-alam ko, jeproks referred to someone who was a hippie, or appeared to look like one based on attire, and especially if you listened to rock...it became jepoy (jepay for female, na na-uso when sampaguita first came out on the pinoy rock scene during her new moon concerts)...may nagsabi sa akin jeproks came somewhat from project...there was a penchant in the 70s for inverting the syllables of words (gabo-boga, chibog-bogchi...etc)...how about the word yosi (from SI-garil-YO)

[Anaheim]

Some lines from "The Godfather" series (from memory):

 

"I love America."

"What have I done for you to treat me so disrespectfully?"

"May her first child be a masculine child."

"That's my family, Kay, not me."

"I'll make him an offer he can't refuse."

"Aaah, aaah, aaah..." (upon seeing the head of his dead horse on his bed)

"Look, what they did to my boy!"

"But then your daughter would be losing a father, instead of gaining a husband."

"You don't talk to Mo Green like that!"

"Fredo, you're my brother, and I love you. But never take sides against the family again."

"Whoever approaches you, he's the traitor."

"Just don't lie to me. It insults my intelligence."

"Can you get me out of this, Tom? For old time's sake."

"Just this once, you can ask about my business."

"Don Corleone..."

 

 

"You and I are part of the same hypocrisy, Senator. But never think it applies to my family."

"Ask about me. I know how to repay a favor."

"Why didn't we have this conversation before?"

"You take care of me? I'm your older brother!"

"It had nothing to do with business!"

"They can win."

"Salud! Salud! Salud!"

"You broke my heart, Fredo. You broke my heart."

"This committee owes my client an apology!"

"I don't want to k*ll everyone. Just my enemies."

"Many times your father and I talked about your future."

"Stupid!"

pareng JT, I know all of those lines. obviously you like Godfather and Godfather Part II. I've noticed you didn't quote a single line from the Godfather Part III.

 

here's one I remember in Part III

 

michael (al pacino) "just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in"

 

Kay (diane keaton) “You know, Michael, now that you’re so respectable I think you’re more dangerous than you ever were. In fact, I preferred you when you were just a common Mafia hood.”

 

Michael Corleone (al pacino) to his nephew Vincent Mancini (andy Garcia) “Never hate your enemies; it affects your judgment.”

 

off-topic ako mga pare ko - 1990 pa itong godfather part iii sorry po

[Magaling]

The term "bakya" was far more easy to define. If you were into the Guy&Pip thing (or Edgar-Vilma, etc), you were "bakya." If you watched "Superstar," then you were bakya. The term, as pareng Anaheim pointed out, had a lot to do with Pinoy showbiz love teams.

 

But the term "baduy" was more problematic. Anyone could be baduy, depending on who was criticizing whom. For instance, I remember that people who loved hard rock enjoyed calling people who listened to disco, well, baduy. In school, one cheering team called another baduy, and vice-versa. So there was really no clear definition of baduy. You could simply hate a person... and call him baduy.

 

I believe the term "jologs" has the same problems. There used to be a "What does jologs mean" thread in mtc where there was quite a debate on the actual scope and definition of "jologs." As with the 1970s "baduy," the term "jologs" is subject to as many interpretations as there are people.

You know, I never really thought of it that way until you pointed out the distinction.

 

Yung "bakya", bakya talaga because anything associated with showbiz will be considered bakya. And this will be almost universally accepted as such.

 

Yung "baduy" is really subjective. What can be considered baduy for some may not be baduy for others. Also, what can be considered okay today might already be baduy tomorrow. Case in point, maraming kanta na initially okay naman kaya lang nababaduy na due to overplay o kaya pag ginawan na ng contest sa Eat Bulaga (think State of the Nation).

 

:cool:

[sally bogna mathay]

maraming kanta na initially okay naman kaya lang nababaduy na due to overplay o kaya pag ginawan na ng contest sa Eat Bulaga (think State of the Nation).

 

:cool:

sama mo na rin bizarre love triangle

[16track]

Pero bago dumating ang jologs, may jeproks na nung 70s. Naiba lang ang meaning nung kinanta na ni pareng Mike 'Hagibis' Hanopol yung 'Laki sa Layaw, Jeproks'

 

According to Mike Hanopol, Jeproks was actually a term used by the people of Project 6 ( or was it 5?) where Mike Hanopol resided in 1976 to describe themselves and which became a household word when "Laki Sa Layaw" became a hit song. The word was binaligtad na "Project" as in Jeproks-- which was kind a trend then--you know.... turning words around such as "Dehins"[hinde] and "Etneb" for Bente pesos and "Etibac" for Cavite --as in "Pre, score tayo sa Etibac mamya"

 

Initially, Mike Hanopol wrote the song to describe his barkada and the prevailing attitude then of the people in that part of town- maybe even part of himself. Eventually, the term became attached to how Mike Hanopol dressed and acted. The long hair, the torn jeans, the vest, the hat and the dark Raybans completed the package.

 

It was actually an anti-social behavior as the hippie stage had been over for several years and here comes Mike Hanopol strutting about on TV in an age where Disco was prevalent and double knit was in. It was a bit strange to see Mike Hanopol and company living their own kind of lifestyle when Denny Terio and his clones were seen every Saturday.

 

Remember Denny Terio?

Edited September 24, 2004 by 16track

[16track]

very nice info pare - coming from a true-blue musician!

How's it going, pare? Do you still do gigs aside from your regular work?

 

Hendrix was one of a kind - a black guitarist coming out of nowhere in a world of white rockers then. No one before him and no one since....

Yo Bro!

Kamusta na?

 

Yep, I still play gigs outside my 9-5. Recently played in a private party in QC. It was kind of cool as I got to play the heavier side of the 60's and 70's. No Dancing Queen or Le Freak that night for me! heheheh!

 

It was fun because the crowd wanted Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Queen, Clapton. It felt good to let go with the Dsitortion pedal! heheh!

 

You are right. Hendrix was one of a kind. Though he was officially a 60's kid, Hendrix revolutionized the electric guitar and showed everybody what can be done.

After his death, many in the 70's continued to walk the path blazed by Jimi Hendrix and proceded to create some of the most magical techniques ever in guitar. Vernon Reid of Living Colours, Eric Gailes, Larry Mitchell all gave it a good try but never came close to the popularity level Hendrix had. Tyey were very talented but the fact they are unknown is a sign nobody has really topped Hendrix.

 

In the 70's, Jeff Beck came out with the several milestone albums--among them, TRUTH, BLOW by BLOW and WIRED. The song "Freeway Jam" had every guitar player running to music stores trying to buy whatever effect Beck used to get the weird and bizarre sounds he recorded. Turns out, the sounds he got were mostly from sheer talent and not effects as he used only a ProCo distortion pedal for most of the album. Listening to the song now gives people a feeling of disbelief that this was recorded sometime 1974 as it still sounds fresh!

 

Among the other 70's albums and performers that were most memorable--Outside of Disco --- were:

 

1. Steely Dan

2. Stevie Wonder- Songs in the Key Of Life

3. Paul McCartney and Wings -- Wings over America Tour/ Concert

4. COncert for BanglaDesh by George Harrison

5. Pink Floyd - The Wall and Dark side of the Moon

6. KISS - Destroyer

7. Led Zeppelin

8. Eagles

9. Blondie

10. Boston - More than a Feeling, Amanda [Remember this Band? ]

11. Fleetwood Mac-- Dreams

12. Deep Purple

13. Bruce Sprinsteen

14.Doobie Bros

15. Police

16. The Sex Pistols

17. Carole King- Tapestry

Edited September 24, 2004 by 16track

[robbietan]

nice choices bos 16track -

 

mi brod have ALL steeley dan LPs, mi fave is 'katy lied' LP

 

I still think the Wings double album 'wings over america' as the best LIVE recording ever (ahem)

 

bangladesh concert - sa akin mas maganda ang Kampuchea concert with Wings (ahem uli)

 

got blondie in LPs (always dig 'sunday girl'), Tapestry in LP (one of mi faves)

 

prefer Tusk from Fleetwood mac

 

 

Deney terio - host of 'dance fever'. taught john travolta de moves in saturday night fever. used to watch dance fever every sunday night on gma-7

 

deney terio - (after watching a pair of PINOY contestants) - Boy do they dance in the philippines!

 

If me addled memory serves, the pinoy couple went all the way to the Grand Finals, but lost

[storm]

Janet Jones, one of Denny Terio's girls became the wife of a sports superstar (Wayne Gretzky?).