kofianan Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 pre salamat ng narami sa map and contact number.... it was very helpful! punta ako dun next month.... mabuhay ang thread na 'to!! Address: IBP Building, No.15 Julia Vargas AvenueOrtigas Center, Pasig City, Philippines SecretariatTel. Nos. 631-3018, 631-3014, 634-4697Fax Nos. 631-3014 & 634-4697 Commission on Bar DisciplineTel. No. 631-26-44Fax No. 910-0407 National Committee on Legal Aid Tel. Nos. 631-3016, 910-0408Fax No. 631-3013 AccountingTel. Nos. 631-3017, 634-4696 PublicationsTeleFax No. 634-4696FOR DIRECTIONS: see attached map Quote Link to comment
fauxhead Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 Only in principle. But in reality, this constitutionally-assured right is one of the most abused. First, before you can insist this right against the government, you have to go to court. Second, there are no penalties or sanctions against erring officials violating this rule, whether by negligence or otherwise. Open government? Not by a long, long, long shot. There is no Freedom of Information Act per se in the Philippines but a combination of the Constitutional right and various other legal provisions makes it one of the most open countries in the region. Quote Link to comment
Waterbearer Posted September 8, 2006 Share Posted September 8, 2006 (edited) Only in principle. But in reality, this constitutionally-assured right is one of the most abused. First, before you can insist this right against the government, you have to go to court. Second, there are no penalties or sanctions against erring officials violating this rule, whether by negligence or otherwise. Open government? Not by a long, long, long shot.True....but compared to other countries...it could be worse. Edited September 8, 2006 by Waterbearer Quote Link to comment
jake_roxas Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 do we have Freedom of Information Act here in the Philippines? on a related matter, there is an administrative order on the protection of personal data and privacy. Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 We do? May copy ka bro?If you do, please share. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
action_officer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 pre, i need legal advice and i think i need to hire a lawyer. gist of case is this.... on august 24, 2 men wearing mmda uniforms went to the company residence of our employees claiming that the perimeter fence of our property encroached onto the sidewalk. they asked us to demolish the fence but when we asked them about any written formal notice regarding the alleged violation they said they didn't have any and left. 2 weeks later they came again and proceeded to demolish the structure. they also went into the compound and cut off the electricity, for whatever reason i still cannot inderstand. they stole the meter and the cables . pre, my questions are..... was the demolition legal ? if not, what can i do about it ? how much do i need to spend to avail of the services of a lawyer willing to take on the mmda ? are there lawyers at mtc willing to go the distance ? ....... please advice asap..... i am at my wits end trying to rationalize what the mmda thugs did to my employees' residence. Quote Link to comment
Waterbearer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 (edited) pre, i need legal advice and i think i need to hire a lawyer. gist of case is this.... on august 24, 2 men wearing mmda uniforms went to the company residence of our employees claiming that the perimeter fence of our property encroached onto the sidewalk. they asked us to demolish the fence but when we asked them about any written formal notice regarding the alleged violation they said they didn't have any and left. 2 weeks later they came again and proceeded to demolish the structure. they also went into the compound and cut off the electricity, for whatever reason i still cannot inderstand. they stole the meter and the cables . pre, my questions are..... was the demolition legal ? if not, what can i do about it ? how much do i need to spend to avail of the services of a lawyer willing to take on the mmda ? are there lawyers at mtc willing to go the distance ? ....... please advice asap..... i am at my wits end trying to rationalize what the mmda thugs did to my employees' residence.was the demolition legal ? The MMDA general manager will tell u that they had to demolish the structure because they were built on sidewalks. Nevertheless, I think they should be armed with court documents which i believe they have one. My guess is that it's pretty legal since its part of their duties under Republic Act 7924.......I find it vague why they supposedly stole your meter and cables but i think they cut off the electricity coz maybe there was a power outlet or electrical line running at/near your perimeter fence....err..u could say for safety purposes. You could go for minor damages re: cutting-off electricity/taking your meters and cables ...without due notice......but that's all i think there really is......kung yung case nga against MMDA na dinemolish nila yung billboard dahil judgement nila hazardous sya e hindi pa naaayos....ito pa kaya na malinaw na enroachment ang ginawa mo... Peace Edited September 12, 2006 by Waterbearer Quote Link to comment
jake_roxas Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 you can start asking for assistance from the IBP Legal Aid Office. Full details are as follows: Address: IBP Building, No.15 Julia Vargas AvenueOrtigas Center, Pasig City, Philippines SecretariatTel. Nos.631-3018, 631-3014, 634-4697Fax Nos.631-3014 & 634-4697 Commission on Bar DisciplineTel. No.631-26-44Fax No.910-0407 National Committee on Legal AidTel. Nos.631-3016, 910-0408Fax No.631-3013 AccountingTel. Nos.631-3017, 634-4696 PublicationsTeleFax No.634-4696 FOR DIRECTIONS: see map above Quote Link to comment
murdock_anal Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 boss jake roxas, please help me out. i was once flagged down by a cop manning a checkpoint. was asked to step down but i refused to abide since there was no reason to do so. after a heated exchange of words, this cop pulled out his service firearm and pointed it to my face. luckily, a concerned motorist passing by shouted "hoy, bawal yan!" which made the cop stand down. i'm in the process of filing a criminal case against this cop. however, i also want to file an adminstrative case. question is, where do file it aside from the ombudsman? should it be with the concerned PLEB, NAPOLCOM or IAS? thanks bro Quote Link to comment
action_officer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 (edited) boss waterbearer, yun nga ho ang problema e. the structure had been there for years and yet from out of the blue nagencroach daw kami sa sidewalk. wala man lang ipinakita na findings or paperworks to that effect. private property is supposed to be viewed by all as untouchable di ba ? if they say one thing are we supposed to just believe what they say ? ala bang due process ? why were no papers served onto the owner of the private property involved ? we would have gladly removed it ourselves had they proven that we were guilty. pero kapag unilateral ang decision, meaning sila lang ang pwede masusunod, parang communist state ang dating. peace likewise. Edited September 12, 2006 by action_officer Quote Link to comment
Waterbearer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 boss jake roxas, please help me out. i was once flagged down by a cop manning a checkpoint. was asked to step down but i refused to abide since there was no reason to do so. after a heated exchange of words, this cop pulled out his service firearm and pointed it to my face. luckily, a concerned motorist passing by shouted "hoy, bawal yan!" which made the cop stand down. i'm in the process of filing a criminal case against this cop. however, i also want to file an adminstrative case. question is, where do file it aside from the ombudsman? should it be with the concerned PLEB, NAPOLCOM or IAS? thanks broMakikisingit na lang dude..... You may file a complaint sa PNP: Dial (632) 899-7504 Internal Affairs Service / Email: ias@pnp.gov.ph For Police Services Complaints or Complaints on a Police Officer Quote Link to comment
Waterbearer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 (edited) boss waterbearer, yun nga ho ang problema e. the structure had been there for years and yet from out of the blue nagencroach daw kami sa sidewalk. wala man lang ipinakita na findings or paperworks to that effect. private property is supposed to be viewed by all as untouchable di ba ? if they say one thing are we supposed to just believe what they say ? ala bang due process ? why were no papers served onto the owner of the private property involved ? we would have gladly removed it ourselves had they proven that we were guilty. pero kapag unilateral ang decision, meaning sila lang ang pwede masusunod, parang communist state ang dating. peace likewise. Bro...It just so happened your perimeter fence was using part of the sidewalk....which is government property...no matter how u put it.....Even if lumalabas na sa inyo pala ang portion ng sidewalk na yun, they could still reason out eminent domain at ganun din ang kalalabasan. It doesnt follow na kung dati hindi ginagawan ng aksyon ng MMDA yan e di na nila aaksyunan yan.....Weather weather lang yan....No offense dude pero intensified talaga ang efforts ng MMDA ngayon sa mga ganyang kaso....and im telling u, you are not the only one...... As to paperworks.....dapat meron.....considering it was the second time they made a claim sa structure mo.....they should've been prepared. Nung first time na hinanapan mo sila, sumagot sila ng wala........baka nung second time, e di mo na sila hinanapan.....lam mo naman yang mga yan.........palaging on a need to know basis.....naunahan ka siguro ng intimidation nila.....kaya ayun.....then again....hula ko lang yon..... What u can do at the moment is demand from their office the documents they supposedly failed to present to you at the time of demolition....or you could demand reparation for the meters/cables they took away from you.....err...if theyd be lucid enough to grant u one. Let's put it this way dude......The State comes first. Edited September 12, 2006 by Waterbearer Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 (edited) boss jake roxas, please help me out. i was once flagged down by a cop manning a checkpoint. was asked to step down but i refused to abide since there was no reason to do so. after a heated exchange of words, this cop pulled out his service firearm and pointed it to my face. luckily, a concerned motorist passing by shouted "hoy, bawal yan!" which made the cop stand down. i'm in the process of filing a criminal case against this cop. however, i also want to file an adminstrative case. question is, where do file it aside from the ombudsman? should it be with the concerned PLEB, NAPOLCOM or IAS? thanks bro I assume that the cop who flagged you down and pointed his service firearm is a low-ranking policeman. You should file the administrative complaint with the People's Law Enforcement Board (PLEB) concerned. For what he did, I am almost sure dismissal from the service ang penalty nyan. Mahihirapan yan mag-apela sa NAPOLCOM. Strikto dun. Edited September 12, 2006 by agentjackbauer Quote Link to comment
rocco69 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 boss jake roxas, please help me out. i was once flagged down by a cop manning a checkpoint. was asked to step down but i refused to abide since there was no reason to do so. after a heated exchange of words, this cop pulled out his service firearm and pointed it to my face. luckily, a concerned motorist passing by shouted "hoy, bawal yan!" which made the cop stand down. i'm in the process of filing a criminal case against this cop. however, i also want to file an adminstrative case. question is, where do file it aside from the ombudsman? should it be with the concerned PLEB, NAPOLCOM or IAS? thanks bro There is no ned to go to PLEB, NAPOLCOM or IAS if you are going to file a complaint with the Ombudsman. Just state in your affidavit-complaint with the Ombudsman that the affidavit is for filing criminal AND ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES (for gross misconduct, oppression, abuse of authority, and conduct prejudicial to the service) against the cop. The Ombudsman also has administrative supervision over government employees so they can hear and decide this. Mas maganda pa kasi mahihirapan siyang lakarin ang kaso dun, unlike sa NAPOLCOM, IAS, at PLEB na baka may kakilala siya. Also, this is more convenient kasi isa lang ang pupuntahan mong lugar, sa Agham Road lang. In your affidavit complaint, you can also ask at the end thereof that the respondent be preventively suspended (tingnan mo ang nangyari kay Mayor Trinidad), which you can't do with the others. Quote Link to comment
agentjackbauer Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 pre, i need legal advice and i think i need to hire a lawyer. gist of case is this.... on august 24, 2 men wearing mmda uniforms went to the company residence of our employees claiming that the perimeter fence of our property encroached onto the sidewalk. they asked us to demolish the fence but when we asked them about any written formal notice regarding the alleged violation they said they didn't have any and left. 2 weeks later they came again and proceeded to demolish the structure. they also went into the compound and cut off the electricity, for whatever reason i still cannot inderstand. they stole the meter and the cables . pre, my questions are..... was the demolition legal ? if not, what can i do about it ? how much do i need to spend to avail of the services of a lawyer willing to take on the mmda ? are there lawyers at mtc willing to go the distance ? ....... please advice asap..... i am at my wits end trying to rationalize what the mmda thugs did to my employees' residence. Determinado ka ba magkaso pare? If you are, then go ahead and file criminal cases against the MMDA personnel who entered your compound and took your meter and cables. Titiklop yan, believe me. Pwede theft/robbery dyan or at the very least malicious mischief resulting to damage to property. You have to get their names though. You may also file a letter-complaint to the MMDA. Malamang hindi alam ng nasa taas ang pinaggagawa ng mga demolition team na pagnakaw ng meter at cables. Quote Link to comment
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