R@v3n Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 well its aint blue, rather, its black..... with the message windows protection error on top, next line stating restart your computer then a long beep. happened twice last week, then recently, hindi na, i did a fullsystem scan sing norton and the latest virus patch, no viruses found. i defrag and scandisk once a month. last reformat of the machine waas january second week where i reformatted and reinstalled everything. (i still cant figure out what the hell is wrong with my system cause i cant install winXP!)<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why can't you install WinXP? It crashes even while installing? That means your problem's being caused by hardware errors! Maybe the memory needs checking...try downloading memory checkers from the net...run them and after an overnight run, you should know if your memory's faulty... :headsetsmiley: Quote Link to comment
marc.alan Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Why can't you install WinXP? It crashes even while installing? That means your problem's being caused by hardware errors! Maybe the memory needs checking...try downloading memory checkers from the net...run them and after an overnight run, you should know if your memory's faulty... :headsetsmiley:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> why cant i install XP? hell if i know... hehehehe... well, first i thought it was the copy... (i bought a new one...) then i used that same copy to install XP to a friend's computer, it worked. so the copy works fine. then i thought maybe i have a CD drive na namimili... well, i took out my drive, put it in a friend's PC, and installed XP... worked great mine is a Samsung CDwriter pala. so its no the drive. so maye its my hard drive. its a maxtor 20gigs. ive got a 2 old hard drives lying about (a 4gig seagate and a 2 gig quantum) so i put them in and tried to install xp. surprise.. still wont work.. so defective lahat ng hard disks ko? i took my maxtor to another friend's Hard disk and install XP. installed OK (ambait ng friends ko noh?) so i took that harddisk back home and plugged it into my syste. in theory, the XP should boot up and then redetect my motherboard, video cards... etc. etc...di ba? well, it displayed that screen you get when the computer isnt shut down properly and does a scandisk. but instead of a scandisk, i get an error message and then a string of hex numbers. needless to say, xp wont boot. so, its either my video card, my Ram or my mainboard. when i install it, both upgrade and clean install types, it goes only up to the part where the screen is black with the windows logo in the middle and a moving status bar below it. then the status bar stops moving and goes to a black screen. i wait for about an hour then i give up. recently(january), i purchased a new bank of 256 MB RAM and tried to reinstall XP... baka nga RAM ang diprensya kaya pinalitan ko. well ganun pa rin. so i guess the mainboard or the video card is defective huh? tama ba analysis ko? Quote Link to comment
roxysnonie Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 why cant i install XP? hell if i know... hehehehe... well, first i thought it was the copy... (i bought a new one...) then i used that same copy to install XP to a friend's computer, it worked. so the copy works fine. then i thought maybe i have a CD drive na namimili... well, i took out my drive, put it in a friend's PC, and installed XP... worked great mine is a Samsung CDwriter pala. so its no the drive. so maye its my hard drive. its a maxtor 20gigs. ive got a 2 old hard drives lying about (a 4gig seagate and a 2 gig quantum) so i put them in and tried to install xp. surprise.. still wont work.. so defective lahat ng hard disks ko? i took my maxtor to another friend's Hard disk and install XP. installed OK (ambait ng friends ko noh?) so i took that harddisk back home and plugged it into my syste. in theory, the XP should boot up and then redetect my motherboard, video cards... etc. etc...di ba? well, it displayed that screen you get when the computer isnt shut down properly and does a scandisk. but instead of a scandisk, i get an error message and then a string of hex numbers. needless to say, xp wont boot. so, its either my video card, my Ram or my mainboard. when i install it, both upgrade and clean install types, it goes only up to the part where the screen is black with the windows logo in the middle and a moving status bar below it. then the status bar stops moving and goes to a black screen. i wait for about an hour then i give up. recently(january), i purchased a new bank of 256 MB RAM and tried to reinstall XP... baka nga RAM ang diprensya kaya pinalitan ko. well ganun pa rin. so i guess the mainboard or the video card is defective huh? tama ba analysis ko?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> list down your computers specification nga? para makita kung may mismatch... oh yeah, 20 gb is small for a pc running on xp os! what os were you running before? Quote Link to comment
R@v3n Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 why cant i install XP? hell if i know... hehehehe... well, first i thought it was the copy... (i bought a new one...) then i used that same copy to install XP to a friend's computer, it worked. so the copy works fine. then i thought maybe i have a CD drive na namimili... well, i took out my drive, put it in a friend's PC, and installed XP... worked great mine is a Samsung CDwriter pala. so its no the drive. so maye its my hard drive. its a maxtor 20gigs. ive got a 2 old hard drives lying about (a 4gig seagate and a 2 gig quantum) so i put them in and tried to install xp. surprise.. still wont work.. so defective lahat ng hard disks ko? i took my maxtor to another friend's Hard disk and install XP. installed OK (ambait ng friends ko noh?) so i took that harddisk back home and plugged it into my syste. in theory, the XP should boot up and then redetect my motherboard, video cards... etc. etc...di ba? well, it displayed that screen you get when the computer isnt shut down properly and does a scandisk. but instead of a scandisk, i get an error message and then a string of hex numbers. needless to say, xp wont boot. so, its either my video card, my Ram or my mainboard. when i install it, both upgrade and clean install types, it goes only up to the part where the screen is black with the windows logo in the middle and a moving status bar below it. then the status bar stops moving and goes to a black screen. i wait for about an hour then i give up. recently(january), i purchased a new bank of 256 MB RAM and tried to reinstall XP... baka nga RAM ang diprensya kaya pinalitan ko. well ganun pa rin. so i guess the mainboard or the video card is defective huh? tama ba analysis ko?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> From what you posted, that is what it boils down to...either your motherboard or video card is to blame...most probably it's the video card...I had this problem once when my pc would only display a black screen...I found that dust accumulated on the video card's heat sink and fan which caused heat issues with the video card. After I cleaned it, it worked just fine. Keep us up to date with what you find! :headsetsmiley: Quote Link to comment
CyberRay Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 *os Although we don’t give support for Win9X systems anymore, I can give you some helpful troubleshooting tips on what might be the problem installing Windows XP on your system. By the way, you might want to post your system specs so I can provide you with more accurate details. System Manufacturer:Processor:Amount of RAM:MOBO (Motherboard): Ok then… first, I would remind you that your system must meet the System Requirements for Microsoft Windows XP. Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP: -PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended (1.8 GHz recommended)-128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features) 256MB recommended-1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space-Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor-CD-ROM or DVD drive-Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device Second, only use CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive when installing Windows XP from the CD. There are lots of reported XP installation problems on CD-R/DVD-R drives. Third, since you will be upgrading from WIN9X, Your Hard disk is still on FAT/FAT32 format. Windows XP is using a much secure and reliable file format system known as New Technology File System (NTFS). So I advise you to wipe out your whole hard disk clean and convert it to a “RAW” hard disk and let Windows XP reformat it to NTFS during the initial installation of the operating system. You can this free tool to wipe your hard drive and give it a fresh start.http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm By the way, the video card has nothing to do with your problem right now, if the video card is the problem you won’t be getting any picture on your monitor in the first place. However, regarding with a long beep that you’ve heard on your pc, that might be a sign of problem with the system. Depending on the MOBO manufacturer, each Long/Short beep and/or how many times it beeps represents an error code on the system. So it is necessary for me to know your MOBO manufacturer. I’m not saying that there is a problem on your MOBO as of now coz I’m not there physically in front of your system to test it. Just follow the instructions above then if everything still fails then we will move on to hardware troubleshooting. And one more thing, kindly provide a lil bit more specific details on what kind of problems you are encountering during the installation of Windows XP. (Like an error code/message or a screenshot will make things much easier for both of us) If you encounter another problem or have another question just feel free to post it right here. Good luck mate. /RegardsRaymund Morris Quote Link to comment
R@v3n Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 *os Although we don’t give support for Win9X systems anymore, I can give you some helpful troubleshooting tips on what might be the problem installing Windows XP on your system. By the way, you might want to post your system specs so I can provide you with more accurate details. System Manufacturer:Processor:Amount of RAM:MOBO (Motherboard): Ok then… first, I would remind you that your system must meet the System Requirements for Microsoft Windows XP. Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP: -PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended (1.8 GHz recommended)-128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features) 256MB recommended-1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space-Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor-CD-ROM or DVD drive-Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device Second, only use CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive when installing Windows XP from the CD. There are lots of reported XP installation problems on CD-R/DVD-R drives. Third, since you will be upgrading from WIN9X, Your Hard disk is still on FAT/FAT32 format. Windows XP is using a much secure and reliable file format system known as New Technology File System (NTFS). So I advise you to wipe out your whole hard disk clean and convert it to a “RAW” hard disk and let Windows XP reformat it to NTFS during the initial installation of the operating system. You can this free tool to wipe your hard drive and give it a fresh start.http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm By the way, the video card has nothing to do with your problem right now, if the video card is the problem you won’t be getting any picture on your monitor in the first place. However, regarding with a long beep that you’ve heard on your pc, that might be a sign of problem with the system. Depending on the MOBO manufacturer, each Long/Short beep and/or how many times it beeps represents an error code on the system. So it is necessary for me to know your MOBO manufacturer. I’m not saying that there is a problem on your MOBO as of now coz I’m not there physically in front of your system to test it. Just follow the instructions above then if everything still fails then we will move on to hardware troubleshooting. And one more thing, kindly provide a lil bit more specific details on what kind of problems you are encountering during the installation of Windows XP. (Like an error code/message or a screenshot will make things much easier for both of us) If you encounter another problem or have another question just feel free to post it right here. Good luck mate. /RegardsRaymund Morris<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would beg to disagree that the video card be scrapped from the list of possible problems. It is true that most video card problems would render it unable to create pictures on the monitor but in my case, the card only heated up significantly when attempting to draw the windows gui. It displayed the BIOS check, the XP progress bar and while it was attempting to draw the gui on the screen right after the progress bar (either the login screen or desktop if only one person has an account) it just stops there...oh well, whatever the problem is, I hope we find out what happens... :cool: Quote Link to comment
CyberRay Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 *os Yes, I’m not permanently removing the video card from the list of suspected hardware that is causing the problem. Also there are lots of problems that we might also consider like the number one reason of BSODs, Driver problems. And I’m just referring to the part where he said “Based on my own analysis, the video card/MOBO might be causing the XP installation problems” and not the earlier BSOD problem tho… So right now since we are just on “Software Troubleshooting” well, let’s just temporarily remove the vid card from the list to further avoid creating confusion to the end user and go for a step by step approach on this matter shall we? And besides only new and mid/high-end video cards suffer over-heating problems and that is one valid reason for me to temporarily remove the vid-card from the list coz the card on his system right now is a nVidia 32MB GeForce2 card unless he have upgraded it to a high end vid card which will give us another troubleshooting question which is the compatibility of the hardware and/or driver of the video card with his current operating system Windows98 which is known to have major compatibility problems with hardwares. Just my 2 cents. Regards,Raymund Morris Quote Link to comment
jt2003 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 a lawyer friend of mine told me...u count this way... child to parents (first degree)- child to parents to grandfather (second degree)- child to parents to grandfather to uncle/aunt (third degree), child to parents to grandfather to uncle/aunts to cousins (fourth degree) consanguinity - affiliation by blood....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sorry if this question sounds stupid. Does this mean that any blood relation that isn't mentioned in the explanation quoted above is beyond the fourth degree? For instance, a sibling. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
dc_maker1009 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 why dont you try plugging the hard drive to the secondary IDE instead... nangyari na sa akin yan, error palagi yung HD ko, BSOD/freeze, pero nung inilipat ko as secondary master, ok naman na, basta kapag inilipat mo yung HD sa ibang slot, ayusin mo din yung BIOS setup mo... i turns out na may sira yung IDE cable (after a couple of experiments in interchanging the slots).... hope this works, last resort mo na siguro yung motherboard..... Quote Link to comment
s_lo_ver Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Sorry if this question sounds stupid. Does this mean that any blood relation that isn't mentioned in the explanation quoted above is beyond the fourth degree? For instance, a sibling. Thanks.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> nope. your sibling (brother/sister) is related to you by blood within the second degree. your nearest, most common ascendant are your parents. so you count up one degree to the parents, then down one degree to your sibling. the key thing in counting degrees in blood relationships is to look for the nearest, most common ascendant. Quote Link to comment
boyGenius Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Thanks guys. Anyway, i'm currently using an MSI K7N2 Delta-L mobo. Anybody here know if it supports 160GB HDDs? I tried checking the MSI website but it doesn't say anything about that.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your MoBo definitely should support 160GB HDD or up. If not I'm pretty sure it just needs a BIOS flash update from MSI. Quote Link to comment
thunderboy123 Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Windows protection error, please restart your computer, then beep then hang same thing happened to my recently bought unit, semprom 2500, kt600-A mobo, fx 5200 vid card, maxtor 40 gig hd, after installing the os windows 98 2nd edition, then the mobo drivers, then the vidc card drivers, then installing some games thru ordinary cd rom ok naman lahat, but when i copied some games thru another HD then inserting it to the virtual drive 7.0, then installing the game like counter-strike after asking for the cd key blue error restart then ayun na windows protection error na, same with ragnarok. 1. I reformat the pc again then installed only the games via cd rom, here games worked ok, but avoided the hd to hd copying of games. 2. Second situation did the same as above but copied the games hd to hd, but did not install the games after 4 days, then on the fifth day attempted to install again the games thru virtual cd ayun gumana na. Any advise. Quote Link to comment
HimuraButosay Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Windows protection error, please restart your computer, then beep then hang same thing happened to my recently bought unit, semprom 2500, kt600-A mobo, fx 5200 vid card, maxtor 40 gig hd, after installing the os windows 98 2nd edition, then the mobo drivers, then the vidc card drivers, then installing some games thru ordinary cd rom ok naman lahat, but when i copied some games thru another HD then inserting it to the virtual drive 7.0, then installing the game like counter-strike after asking for the cd key blue error restart then ayun na windows protection error na, same with ragnarok. 1. I reformat the pc again then installed only the games via cd rom, here games worked ok, but avoided the hd to hd copying of games. 2. Second situation did the same as above but copied the games hd to hd, but did not install the games after 4 days, then on the fifth day attempted to install again the games thru virtual cd ayun gumana na. Any advise.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> hmmm....seems to me a Windows registry violation of some sort... have you tried fresh installing everything? (as in everything...) Quote Link to comment
rakista_royale Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 try lng www.driverzone.com Quote Link to comment
rakista_royale Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 help namn jan, san makakakita ng software pra pag edit ng pic,video at sounds, ung maganda at maliit na file lang Quote Link to comment
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