Larry Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the only way Fedor is going to lose in the UFC, is if somebody brings a Glock into the octagon Quote Link to comment
twentysix Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 i dunno chief, but with the way Dana's talking there might be one and you short sell the UFC heavyweights bro... i mean Fedor's a beast, that is correct but there are also a lot of good HW fighters in the UFC, so i don't really see him demolishing other fighters with ease. he won against Nog and CroCop via decision and i would say he didn't run rings around them for a lopsided UD all i'm saying is in a fight anyone has a chance to win and it ain't over til it's over bro... i'm a Fedor fan but i also would like to see how he fares against other top caliber HW fight after fight at the same time i'd like to see how he handles the pressure of the big show. compared to the UFC; PRIDE, BoDog, RINGS, Sengoku, DREAM, AFFLICTION are just second best bro... its like comparing a prestiged boxing organization belt to a lesser organization's belt look at the bright side, if Dana co-promotes with M1 Global then MMA as a sport have made a giant step into the future pride = lesser org? cmon man, i like ufc but i dont look at pride as lesser org than ufc. years back, many mma fans\fighters consider pride as the most "bad ass" org while ufc is just SECOND best. Quote Link to comment
twentysix Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Pardon what was the thing @ pride , over the rampage vs iceman? dont have source of pride new before e kinly enlighten me... dana sent chuck to pride GP to setup a mega fight against W. Silva but during the fight with rampage chuck wasn't able to answer the bell (ala bj penn) due to ass whoppin given to him. Quote Link to comment
maddromeo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the only way Fedor is going to lose in the UFC, is if somebody brings a Glock into the octagon Hahaha... marami nga nagsabi nito! When Fedor loses, this will be the day in MMA they allow guns inside the ring or cage! Hahaha :thumbsupsmiley: dana sent chuck to pride GP to setup a mega fight against W. Silva but during the fight with rampage chuck wasn't able to answer the bell (ala bj penn) due to ass whoppin given to him. Correction sir! It was a towel thrown by the cornerman of Lidell! Chuck got exhausted and Rampage was pounding on him before he got to mount position! But the whole fight it was Page getting the better out of the Iceman! :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
maddromeo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the only way Fedor is going to lose in the UFC, is if somebody brings a Glock into the octagon Hahaha... marami nga nagsabi nito! When Fedor loses, this will be the day in MMA they allow guns inside the ring or cage! Hahaha :thumbsupsmiley: dana sent chuck to pride GP to setup a mega fight against W. Silva but during the fight with rampage chuck wasn't able to answer the bell (ala bj penn) due to ass whoppin given to him. Correction sir! It was a towel thrown by the cornerman of Lidell! Chuck got exhausted and Rampage was pounding on him before he got to mount position! But the whole fight it was Page getting the better out of the Iceman! :hypocritesmiley: Pride a lesser Org than the UFC?! Comer on!? Man before the collapse of Pride! Japan was considered to be the mecca of MMA! Even the fighters/trainers said that Pride was about the best fighters around the world! Alot of American Fighthers left the UFC and fought in Japan, there they were able to make a living and fight with the best! Thus Pride GP's were introduced, to know who are the best fighters! "The Cage is your world but the Ring is our Universe" :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Shane Carwin is a big guy that would evenly match up with Brock, as for size. Skill-wise, i dunno yet. he needs to be tested and one big obstacle on his way is Gabe Gonzaga. I'm really looking forward to see this guy fight Brock in the near future. Well im actually think about the gonzaga vs crocop thing and i think with gonzaga skill and power he might be a good opponent for brock.... just a hypothetical thing in my mind... Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 pride = lesser org? cmon man, i like ufc but i dont look at pride as lesser org than ufc. years back, many mma fans\fighters consider pride as the most "bad ass" org while ufc is just SECOND best. Pride a lesser Org than the UFC?! Comer on!? Man before the collapse of Pride! Japan was considered to be the mecca of MMA! Even the fighters/trainers said that Pride was about the best fighters around the world! Alot of American Fighthers left the UFC and fought in Japan, there they were able to make a living and fight with the best! Thus Pride GP's were introduced, to know who are the best fighters! "The Cage is your world but the Ring is our Universe" :hypocritesmiley: when an organization folds and ceases to exist because it had trouble financially, then it becomes a lesser org... yeah PRIDE WAS badass, but who else aside from Coleman, Randelman, Big Nog & CroCop has Fedor fought in PRIDE? Fujita? nahh, Fedor was supposed to make quick work outta him but he got KD by a wild right hookHerring? we all know Heath is not in the same boat as FedorSchilt? he's a kickboxer for crying out loud... (though he's a good kickboxer)Goodridge? can you say tomato can? yep...Nagata? a "Pro-Wrestler" need i say more...Ogawa? he's good... Olympic level Judo player good though...TK? c'mon man, he's got an excellent guard but TK at that time was already oldZuluzinho? Butterbean kimura'd this dude, though he had an excellent win against The MinowanmanHunt? are you kidding me? then after PRIDE Fedor went where the money was bigger & better for his "management" sorry if you took the post by mistake, it never was mean't to say PRIDE as lesser to the UFC during the old days as "hardcore" fans say BTW i just observed that a lot of PRIDE fighters never really transitioned good in the Octagon...spacing problem in the octagon perhaps? Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well im actually think about the gonzaga vs crocop thing and i think with gonzaga skill and power he might be a good opponent for brock.... just a hypothetical thing in my mind... gonzaga panics when he gets bloodied, not a good thing when you're up against someone like brock. Although Gonzaga has really good BJJ, which might negate Brock's style. It's a good matchup, it's just not clear to me yet how gonzaga can pull off the win. when an organization folds and ceases to exist because it had trouble financially, then it becomes a lesser org... Pride folded because dream had some shady deals with the Yakuza. TV networks got wind of this and pulled Pride out of their broadcast roster. No TV, No PPV, less money. Pride didn't fold because it was an inferior product, it folded because of the bad decisions made by its management. Pride fighters even made more money than UFC fighters, and they put on a hell of a show. Dana was seriously worried about Pride, he got lucky because Dream got stupid. Schilt? he's a kickboxer for crying out loud... Crocop is a kickboxer BTW i just observed that a lot of PRIDE fighters never really transitioned good in the Octagon...spacing problem in the octagon perhaps? a lot of it has to do with the dynamics of the cage itself, everything is different to them. there's that, plus the fact that most of the Pride fighters are over the hill, crocop, wand, nog, have all been in terrible wars before, and somehow those days have caught up to them. I'd love to see Kid Yamamoto in the cage though. Quote Link to comment
Deuce Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 gonzaga panics when he gets bloodied, not a good thing when you're up against someone like brock. Although Gonzaga has really good BJJ, which might negate Brock's style. It's a good matchup, it's just not clear to me yet how gonzaga can pull off the win. Pride folded because dream had some shady deals with the Yakuza. TV networks got wind of this and pulled Pride out of their broadcast roster. No TV, No PPV, less money. Pride didn't fold because it was an inferior product, it folded because of the bad decisions made by its management. Pride fighters even made more money than UFC fighters, and they put on a hell of a show. Dana was seriously worried about Pride, he got lucky because Dream got stupid. Crocop is a kickboxer a lot of it has to do with the dynamics of the cage itself, everything is different to them. there's that, plus the fact that most of the Pride fighters are over the hill, crocop, wand, nog, have all been in terrible wars before, and somehow those days have caught up to them. I'd love to see Kid Yamamoto in the cage though.how about fedor vs brock? well i just hope this match materializes soon. Quote Link to comment
twentysix Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 there's that, plus the fact that most of the Pride fighters are over the hill, crocop, wand, nog, have all been in terrible wars before, and somehow those days have caught up to them. I'd love to see Kid Yamamoto in the cage though. im thinking the same thing. some of them (if not most) are already past their prime when they enter the cage except for the few that still have what it takes to compete to the ufc. same goes with other ufc figters that wrecked havoc before that are now on a down hill (hughes, chuck, etc). i just hope fedor goes to the ufc before hes fighting career\spirit\skills or what ever fighters have slowly diminishes. anyway, if ever fedor fights brock in the ufc. I'll be rooting for brock. Quote Link to comment
malthus Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 how about fedor vs brock? well i just hope this match materializes soon. if this happens, i'm putting my money on brock. :thumbsupsmiley: let's make this exciting... anyone want to take fedor's side, even just for P1000? come on fedor fans, lets put our money where our mouths are! :goatee: Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'll bet 1000 that this won't happen anytime soon and that Dana or Fedor's management will find a way to screw this up once again. Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 how about fedor vs brock? well i just hope this match materializes soon. pwede but policies are the problem... I'll bet 1000 that this won't happen anytime soon and that Dana or Fedor's management will find a way to screw this up once again. This is the down side of MMA I guess soon this will affect the whole MMA competition world... Quote Link to comment
maddromeo Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Pride was owned by the Yakuza's! UFC are owned by the Fertita's! (Italian-American Mafia anyone?) :hypocritesmiley: Actually the Japs screwed Zuffa in buying out Pride! Pride was invading the US market and the UFC felt threatened and had to buy them out, not knowing Pride was loosing money because broadcast partners/TV stations were about to pull out! They were able to put up one last show which was Pride 34! After that they decided to pull the plug! Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Crocop is a kickboxer a lot of it has to do with the dynamics of the cage itself, everything is different to them. there's that, plus the fact that most of the Pride fighters are over the hill, crocop, wand, nog, have all been in terrible wars before, and somehow those days have caught up to them. I'd love to see Kid Yamamoto in the cage though. thats prolly why CroCop didn't do well in the Octagon... Kid would be great as well, but i'm taking into consideration what you've said about ring fighters transitioning into the cage... I'll bet 1000 that this won't happen anytime soon and that Dana or Fedor's management will find a way to screw this up once again. AMEN! Quote Link to comment
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