SevenZeroFive Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 what? you don't think he's the BEST P4P MMA fighter then you disagree w/ me saying that he's overrated? ^ doesn't mean that someone's not the best p4p that he's overrated, bro. bj's up there, but he's not the best p4p, 'cause someone's just plain better. that's it. he doesn't suck, there's just someone better. and that (for some) is fedor, maybe anderson. but fedor is definitely not overrated. Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Correction Canadians still look at Americans as arrogant s@n@fabitches!!!Streetfights in the Philippines are like ValeTudo and never ends that includes generations of fighting.Hockey fights aren't bad... I now, what i mean is this candian act over these american like a soft marshmallow, coz they wont throw a an elbow or a knee even on asport basis hahaha.Oo sa pinas wala nga ending hahaha abot pa hangang counter strike pag retiro na mga kamao, daliri na... (daliri pang kalabit ng trigger ng baril) hahahaha no cross promotion, remember what people said when rampage defeated chuck in pride? Pardon what was the thing @ pride , over the rampage vs iceman? dont have source of pride new before e kinly enlighten me... Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 the ufc will not co-promote any fight for they will not risk the fact that they are the top org in the world (with the greatest fighters?). if fedor beat who ever they set him to face, ufc fighters will only look imperior to fedor if he demolish them at ease. the only time we can see him inside the octagon is when he signed the ufc contact to become a ufc fighter. no cross promotion, remember what people said when rampage defeated chuck in pride?i dunno chief, but with the way Dana's talking there might be one and you short sell the UFC heavyweights bro... i mean Fedor's a beast, that is correct but there are also a lot of good HW fighters in the UFC, so i don't really see him demolishing other fighters with ease. he won against Nog and CroCop via decision and i would say he didn't run rings around them for a lopsided UD all i'm saying is in a fight anyone has a chance to win and it ain't over til it's over bro... i'm a Fedor fan but i also would like to see how he fares against other top caliber HW fight after fight at the same time i'd like to see how he handles the pressure of the big show. compared to the UFC; PRIDE, BoDog, RINGS, Sengoku, DREAM, AFFLICTION are just second best bro... its like comparing a prestiged boxing organization belt to a lesser organization's belt look at the bright side, if Dana co-promotes with M1 Global then MMA as a sport have made a giant step into the future Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 there are no good HWs in the UFC Brock is too greenNog is over the hillMir is overratedCarwin might have a chance, but he's still untested after that there's nobody else at a level that can compete with Fedor. Quote Link to comment
Kyle_Rayner Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Shane Carwin is a big guy that would evenly match up with Brock, as for size. Skill-wise, i dunno yet. he needs to be tested and one big obstacle on his way is Gabe Gonzaga. I'm really looking forward to see this guy fight Brock in the near future. Quote Link to comment
maddromeo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 There are alot of good heavyweights in the UFC! But I want to see Fedor vs. Josh Barnett first before he goes to the UFC! Not only fight Brock Lesnar but to clear out the HW division there! He will not have a easy task in fighting those HW in the UFC but Im sure he'll find a way to win! The will of Fedor cant be broken! Theres no quit in him! Never seen it! And it looks like we will never get to see it! The only thing I can think of Fedor loosing in the UFC its either by cuts or premature stoppage! Thats it! Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the only way Fedor is going to lose in the UFC, is if somebody brings a Glock into the octagon Quote Link to comment
twentysix Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 i dunno chief, but with the way Dana's talking there might be one and you short sell the UFC heavyweights bro... i mean Fedor's a beast, that is correct but there are also a lot of good HW fighters in the UFC, so i don't really see him demolishing other fighters with ease. he won against Nog and CroCop via decision and i would say he didn't run rings around them for a lopsided UD all i'm saying is in a fight anyone has a chance to win and it ain't over til it's over bro... i'm a Fedor fan but i also would like to see how he fares against other top caliber HW fight after fight at the same time i'd like to see how he handles the pressure of the big show. compared to the UFC; PRIDE, BoDog, RINGS, Sengoku, DREAM, AFFLICTION are just second best bro... its like comparing a prestiged boxing organization belt to a lesser organization's belt look at the bright side, if Dana co-promotes with M1 Global then MMA as a sport have made a giant step into the future pride = lesser org? cmon man, i like ufc but i dont look at pride as lesser org than ufc. years back, many mma fans\fighters consider pride as the most "bad ass" org while ufc is just SECOND best. Quote Link to comment
twentysix Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Pardon what was the thing @ pride , over the rampage vs iceman? dont have source of pride new before e kinly enlighten me... dana sent chuck to pride GP to setup a mega fight against W. Silva but during the fight with rampage chuck wasn't able to answer the bell (ala bj penn) due to ass whoppin given to him. Quote Link to comment
maddromeo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the only way Fedor is going to lose in the UFC, is if somebody brings a Glock into the octagon Hahaha... marami nga nagsabi nito! When Fedor loses, this will be the day in MMA they allow guns inside the ring or cage! Hahaha :thumbsupsmiley: dana sent chuck to pride GP to setup a mega fight against W. Silva but during the fight with rampage chuck wasn't able to answer the bell (ala bj penn) due to ass whoppin given to him. Correction sir! It was a towel thrown by the cornerman of Lidell! Chuck got exhausted and Rampage was pounding on him before he got to mount position! But the whole fight it was Page getting the better out of the Iceman! :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
maddromeo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 the only way Fedor is going to lose in the UFC, is if somebody brings a Glock into the octagon Hahaha... marami nga nagsabi nito! When Fedor loses, this will be the day in MMA they allow guns inside the ring or cage! Hahaha :thumbsupsmiley: dana sent chuck to pride GP to setup a mega fight against W. Silva but during the fight with rampage chuck wasn't able to answer the bell (ala bj penn) due to ass whoppin given to him. Correction sir! It was a towel thrown by the cornerman of Lidell! Chuck got exhausted and Rampage was pounding on him before he got to mount position! But the whole fight it was Page getting the better out of the Iceman! :hypocritesmiley: Pride a lesser Org than the UFC?! Comer on!? Man before the collapse of Pride! Japan was considered to be the mecca of MMA! Even the fighters/trainers said that Pride was about the best fighters around the world! Alot of American Fighthers left the UFC and fought in Japan, there they were able to make a living and fight with the best! Thus Pride GP's were introduced, to know who are the best fighters! "The Cage is your world but the Ring is our Universe" :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
King Nothing Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Shane Carwin is a big guy that would evenly match up with Brock, as for size. Skill-wise, i dunno yet. he needs to be tested and one big obstacle on his way is Gabe Gonzaga. I'm really looking forward to see this guy fight Brock in the near future. Well im actually think about the gonzaga vs crocop thing and i think with gonzaga skill and power he might be a good opponent for brock.... just a hypothetical thing in my mind... Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 pride = lesser org? cmon man, i like ufc but i dont look at pride as lesser org than ufc. years back, many mma fans\fighters consider pride as the most "bad ass" org while ufc is just SECOND best. Pride a lesser Org than the UFC?! Comer on!? Man before the collapse of Pride! Japan was considered to be the mecca of MMA! Even the fighters/trainers said that Pride was about the best fighters around the world! Alot of American Fighthers left the UFC and fought in Japan, there they were able to make a living and fight with the best! Thus Pride GP's were introduced, to know who are the best fighters! "The Cage is your world but the Ring is our Universe" :hypocritesmiley: when an organization folds and ceases to exist because it had trouble financially, then it becomes a lesser org... yeah PRIDE WAS badass, but who else aside from Coleman, Randelman, Big Nog & CroCop has Fedor fought in PRIDE? Fujita? nahh, Fedor was supposed to make quick work outta him but he got KD by a wild right hookHerring? we all know Heath is not in the same boat as FedorSchilt? he's a kickboxer for crying out loud... (though he's a good kickboxer)Goodridge? can you say tomato can? yep...Nagata? a "Pro-Wrestler" need i say more...Ogawa? he's good... Olympic level Judo player good though...TK? c'mon man, he's got an excellent guard but TK at that time was already oldZuluzinho? Butterbean kimura'd this dude, though he had an excellent win against The MinowanmanHunt? are you kidding me? then after PRIDE Fedor went where the money was bigger & better for his "management" sorry if you took the post by mistake, it never was mean't to say PRIDE as lesser to the UFC during the old days as "hardcore" fans say BTW i just observed that a lot of PRIDE fighters never really transitioned good in the Octagon...spacing problem in the octagon perhaps? Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Well im actually think about the gonzaga vs crocop thing and i think with gonzaga skill and power he might be a good opponent for brock.... just a hypothetical thing in my mind... gonzaga panics when he gets bloodied, not a good thing when you're up against someone like brock. Although Gonzaga has really good BJJ, which might negate Brock's style. It's a good matchup, it's just not clear to me yet how gonzaga can pull off the win. when an organization folds and ceases to exist because it had trouble financially, then it becomes a lesser org... Pride folded because dream had some shady deals with the Yakuza. TV networks got wind of this and pulled Pride out of their broadcast roster. No TV, No PPV, less money. Pride didn't fold because it was an inferior product, it folded because of the bad decisions made by its management. Pride fighters even made more money than UFC fighters, and they put on a hell of a show. Dana was seriously worried about Pride, he got lucky because Dream got stupid. Schilt? he's a kickboxer for crying out loud... Crocop is a kickboxer BTW i just observed that a lot of PRIDE fighters never really transitioned good in the Octagon...spacing problem in the octagon perhaps? a lot of it has to do with the dynamics of the cage itself, everything is different to them. there's that, plus the fact that most of the Pride fighters are over the hill, crocop, wand, nog, have all been in terrible wars before, and somehow those days have caught up to them. I'd love to see Kid Yamamoto in the cage though. Quote Link to comment
Deuce Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 gonzaga panics when he gets bloodied, not a good thing when you're up against someone like brock. Although Gonzaga has really good BJJ, which might negate Brock's style. It's a good matchup, it's just not clear to me yet how gonzaga can pull off the win. Pride folded because dream had some shady deals with the Yakuza. TV networks got wind of this and pulled Pride out of their broadcast roster. No TV, No PPV, less money. Pride didn't fold because it was an inferior product, it folded because of the bad decisions made by its management. Pride fighters even made more money than UFC fighters, and they put on a hell of a show. Dana was seriously worried about Pride, he got lucky because Dream got stupid. Crocop is a kickboxer a lot of it has to do with the dynamics of the cage itself, everything is different to them. there's that, plus the fact that most of the Pride fighters are over the hill, crocop, wand, nog, have all been in terrible wars before, and somehow those days have caught up to them. I'd love to see Kid Yamamoto in the cage though.how about fedor vs brock? well i just hope this match materializes soon. Quote Link to comment
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