Mixed Martial Arts

[Assasin's Creed]

may mga rumors ngayon na ang susunod daw na kalaban ni Brock ay si Kongo... cgurado gulpi si lesnar dito kay negro. :evil:

[o0onapstero0o]

may mga rumors ngayon na ang susunod daw na kalaban ni Brock ay si Kongo... cgurado gulpi si lesnar dito kay negro. :evil:

 

 

 

i beg to differ... as we all know, kongo is not well versed when it comes to submissions and stuffs like that so lesnar can still dominate the fight by bringing him down but ofcourse he has to improve his ground and pound game and his jiu-jitsu inorder to pull a win!

[geneticfreak]

Their coach is out of the country AFAIK.

 

You can try going to Fabricio laguna, which is about 20 minutes away from Alabang.

 

Ah wala ba ngayon si Jeff dito? Hehe. Anyhow if I may add the Fabricio in alabang is actually a residence of one of the club's members Manny Jimenez and technically the place is in las pinas already (pala) malapit lang daw sa toyota along alabang zapote road though I haven't gotten the chance to visit the place.

Edited August 19, 2008 by geneticfreak

[geneticfreak]

may mga rumors ngayon na ang susunod daw na kalaban ni Brock ay si Kongo... cgurado gulpi si lesnar dito kay negro. :evil:

 

I beg to differ sir. Kongo may have an advantage in the standup department against Brock but after what we saw in the Herring fight I think lesnar can actually hold his own against him even standing up. But of course that's not what's probabbly gonna happen. Lesnar has uncanny speed for a big man and this is a big plus for Brock especially if he decides to shoot for a double or a single on Kongo immediately (as what happened with Frank Mir who immediately got taken down seconds into the fight).

 

Bottomline is. If Brock takes Kongo down I think he'll stay down. Herring a much smaller man was able to take him down and control him so I don't see Brock having any problem whatsoever having his way with Kongo once it hits the mat and with Lesnar's speed,strength and wrestling pedigree I think it'll only be a matter of seconds before that happens.

[Olympus]

that's why I'm insisting that let's see if Lesnar can handle guys like Fabricio Werdum who are world class grapplers with decent standup

[_eRon_]

who has vids of UFC 87: Seek and Destroy? can i watch it please; wasn't able to watch the fights; favorite ko pa nman si GSP

[lestat41]

I beg to differ sir. Kongo may have an advantage in the standup department against Brock but after what we saw in the Herring fight I think lesnar can actually hold his own against him even standing up. But of course that's not what's probabbly gonna happen. Lesnar has uncanny speed for a big man and this is a big plus for Brock especially if he decides to shoot for a double or a single on Kongo immediately (as what happened with Frank Mir who immediately got taken down seconds into the fight).

 

Bottomline is. If Brock takes Kongo down I think he'll stay down. Herring a much smaller man was able to take him down and control him so I don't see Brock having any problem whatsoever having his way with Kongo once it hits the mat and with Lesnar's speed,strength and wrestling pedigree I think it'll only be a matter of seconds before that happens.

 

I do agree that brock can take kongo down at will,,Kongo is not really good when the fight goes down to the mat,,brock needs to improve on finishing matches,,don't like to see what he did to Herring again,,he was dominant against Herring because brock can control his opponent on the ground but he couldn't finish the match when he had the dominant position,,,brock needs to be careful with kongo's punch though,,one punch can drop his opponents down...should be an interesting match! :headsetsmiley:

[maddromeo]

Ah sa Las Pinas pala yung Fabricio Alabang/Las Pinas! Check out ko nalang sa Dec. paguwi ko! Anyways I heard si Kongo nga daw next opponent ni Brock!? He can definitely take Kongo down but in the standup advantage si Kongo!? Lyoto vs, T. Silva is a fight I'm looking forward to, both undefeated! For sure isa sa kanila magkakatalo na coz I doubt mag draw sila!? hehe... :thumbsupsmiley:

[geneticfreak]

I do agree that brock can take kongo down at will,,Kongo is not really good when the fight goes down to the mat,,brock needs to improve on finishing matches,,don't like to see what he did to Herring again,,he was dominant against Herring because brock can control his opponent on the ground but he couldn't finish the match when he had the dominant position,,,brock needs to be careful with kongo's punch though,,one punch can drop his opponents down...should be an interesting match! :headsetsmiley:

 

As much as we all know Brock has learned from all his MMA training and all,for all intensive purposes he is still a wrestler and we expect him to be that way at least for his next few fights. Evolving in this game generally does take time (most especially if you've been accustomed to doing just one thing for a long time). Give him time, I'm sure he'll fill all the in the holes in his game in due time.

 

As for Kongo dropping Lesnar with one punch. Well it can happen. Kongo is certainly a capable striker and on the human anatomy (on the head especially) there is more than one "magic button" you can hit to cause someone to have a severe concussion (aka KO). But let's go back to something Joe Rogan said about the size of someone's head and his possibility of getting KO'd. He remarked (it was during the Cropcop/Napao fight) that someone who was a small head (and a small chin) would be more susceptible to a "one punch" KO than someone with a big head (and subsequently with a big chin). Just look at how big Brock's head is and we see that it's highly unlikely he'd fall victim to a one punch KO (perhaps a combination of punches and or punches with knees would do the trick though).

[ixnay]

brock is still a work in progress.. in every fight there is something that we can see that differs from his previous fight.

 

if and ever brock vs kongo be a future match, i'd take the big brock anytime of the day.

[o0onapstero0o]

that's why I'm insisting that let's see if Lesnar can handle guys like Fabricio Werdum who are world class grapplers with decent standup

 

 

 

agree... although i think he has a better chance of winning over wrestler or a striker(because of his size and brute force) than grapplers like werdum or minotauro!

[RustyXIII]

What amuses me is that many forums have heated discussions about a Brock - Kimbo fight. Yes, both are big, dominant guys who get tons of fanfare but the similarities end there. All Brock needs to do is to close the gap and get his hands on Kimbo, take him down, and that's it. It'll be entertaining, no doubt, but I don't really see it happening too since Elite XC is babying Kimbo too much...

 

On the Brock - Kongo fight, if Brock can follow what Herring did to Cheick, he'll win. And he is very much capable of doing so. Kongo will have to work hard for a win because aside from the big head, Brock also has one of the thickest, most muscular necks I've ever seen. This lessens the chance of his brain being rattled when he gets hit. The guy planted himself on his head while flying through the air once and managed to walk away for crying out loud...

[SevenZeroFive]

What amuses me is that many forums have heated discussions about a Brock - Kimbo fight. Yes, both are big, dominant guys who get tons of fanfare but the similarities end there. All Brock needs to do is to close the gap and get his hands on Kimbo, take him down, and that's it. It'll be entertaining, no doubt, but I don't really see it happening too since Elite XC is babying Kimbo too much...

 

On the Brock - Kongo fight, if Brock can follow what Herring did to Cheick, he'll win. And he is very much capable of doing so. Kongo will have to work hard for a win because aside from the big head, Brock also has one of the thickest, most muscular necks I've ever seen. This lessens the chance of his brain being rattled when he gets hit. The guy planted himself on his head while flying through the air once and managed to walk away for crying out loud...

 

^ you know how Elite's babying Kimbo? Here's their short list for his next fight:

 

1. Brett Rogers (logical choice)

2. Ken Shamrock (he could pull off a win)

3. Sean Gannon (yes, the Miami cop who introduced Kimbo to the muay plum when they fought lol)

 

all the talk of a Brock-Kimbo fight is really starting to become irritating, like the heated discussions about a Fedor-Brock fight.

 

i'm not doing MMAth, but if Kongo had a tough time with Herring when they fought imagine what's gonna happen when Brock fights him. Herring is a decent wrestler and he was able to take Kongo down (albeit a bit sloppy), Assuerio Silva was able to take Kongo down at will as well. Imagine what happens when Kongo gets a shot from a top of the food chain, NCAA D-1 wrestler.

[riceb0i]

who has vids of UFC 87: Seek and Destroy? can i watch it please; wasn't able to watch the fights; favorite ko pa nman si GSP

let me borrow a line from Larry "dailymotion.com is your friend"

 

I do agree that brock can take kongo down at will,,Kongo is not really good when the fight goes down to the mat,,brock needs to improve on finishing matches,,don't like to see what he did to Herring again,,he was dominant against Herring because brock can control his opponent on the ground but he couldn't finish the match when he had the dominant position,,,brock needs to be careful with kongo's punch though,,one punch can drop his opponents down...should be an interesting match! :headsetsmiley:

i guess the reason Brock's just riding his opponents instead of finishing them off with a sub, probably he still has the Mir fight in the back of his head, he might be thinking that if he moves a bit more he'd get caught in a sub & that'll end the fight. can't blame him for that, probably he should get in more Ws using his lay and pray style (i say lay and pray coz that's what he does, he rides/sits on his opponents giving a shot or two and then change sides then do it again) then when he's built up his confidence then probably he can do subs like a key-lock or americana, heck he could kimura a guy & just using his raw power he'd break a guy's arm off.

 

about that Kimbo hype, hey we can't blame a guy who got offered that much, i mean who are we to say that he shouldn't have taken that fat contract and yeah be fed with cans. can't blame Mr Ferguson, but he won't get respect until he fights a gatekeeper type of fighter.

 

i'd like to see Brock destroy that dude Kimbo fought just to show those Kimbo Bandwagoners that Kimbo got dominated by a crap fighter in that division.

[geneticfreak]

Sean Gannon against Kimbo. haha you can't baby Kimbo a lot more than that. IMHO Brock would dominate him if they ever were in a ring or a cage together.