thecunninglinguist Posted March 6, 2011 Share Posted March 6, 2011 Anyone here has an opinion on Mark Munoz demolition of CB Dolloway? Maybe he should be the one to shut up Bisping. I personally think that would be a good fight. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 muñoz vs. bisping? not just yet imho Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 ^ So who do you suggest Bisping faces next?? Maia would be one of my top choices... though I think Munoz won't be a bad choice either.. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) SONNEN! for curiousity's sake, i'd like to see them trash talk their way to the fight Edited March 8, 2011 by ray004 Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 sonnen vs bisping would be a great match, munoz vs bisping would be great too, would love to watch munoz smash bisping's face hehehe Quote Link to comment
El Chapo Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 Sonnen Bisping for awesome trashtalk war Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted March 9, 2011 Share Posted March 9, 2011 bisping vs okami if silva vs okami doesn't push thru Quote Link to comment
sujiro Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well not really. It's more like the guy on the bottom has 'neutralized' the top person's advantage cause he cannot attach from within the guard. If it's MMA though judges tend to look at the top guy as the one with the positional advantage cause of course in MMA you have the additional option to punch and elbow from within the guard. If ever Palhares and Meia would ever meet in the octagon the thing is both might not actually risk goin to the ground knowing how good both of em are. What we might end up watching is two of the best grapplers in the world trying to decide who among them is the better striker so we might not actually find out who the better grappler is if they're gonna meet in the octagon. The ADCC I think would be a better venue to find that out. then why do Royce-Saku, Saku-Newton all ended up to be a ground game? cause they are not well-rounded during that time? besides, Branch is a Renzo BJJ Blackbelt and we all know what happened.. and it is ironic that when 2 elite strikers fight, they seldom hit the ground (except, when som1 was KO). i heard a story that Palhares submitted Big Nog during training and Eddie Bravo admitted that he tapped to white belts..is this normal? that every1 taps once in a while by a lower degree BJJ practicioner..or it just that the newbies are really that impressive? Quote Link to comment
sujiro Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 ^ So who do you suggest Bisping faces next?? Maia would be one of my top choices... though I think Munoz won't be a bad choice either.. Falcao.though not yet in top 10. but that guy is nasty..it will be a good match up for him, since Bisbing is always working and Falcao based on his UFC debut, is a counter-striker. Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 i heard a story that Palhares submitted Big Nog during training and Eddie Bravo admitted that he tapped to white belts..is this normal? that every1 taps once in a while by a lower degree BJJ practicioner..or it just that the newbies are really that impressive? Yes... and you do have cases when a guy who hasn't been training that long ends up submitting people of a supposedly higher BJJ pedigree. We of course have the likes of BJ Penn and Mike Fowler to prove that. Some teachers will actually let a lower belt 'catch' them from time to time as a teaching method too... The most famous BJJ teacher I could think of who does this is Diego Sanchez's BJJ coach and multiple time world champion Saulo Ribeiro. Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 then why do Royce-Saku, Saku-Newton all ended up to be a ground game? cause they are not well-rounded during that time? besides, Branch is a Renzo BJJ Blackbelt and we all know what happened.. and it is ironic that when 2 elite strikers fight, they seldom hit the ground (except, when som1 was KO). i heard a story that Palhares submitted Big Nog during training and Eddie Bravo admitted that he tapped to white belts..is this normal? that every1 taps once in a while by a lower degree BJJ practicioner..or it just that the newbies are really that impressive? Everyone taps to someone lower in rank at one point.. its part of the game. That's why its called training I assume you don't do any BJJ or grappling yet?? Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Yes... and you do have cases when a guy who hasn't been training that long ends up submitting people of a supposedly higher BJJ pedigree. We of course have the likes of BJ Penn and Mike Fowler to prove that. Some teachers will actually let a lower belt 'catch' them from time to time as a teaching method too... The most famous BJJ teacher I could think of who does this is Diego Sanchez's BJJ coach and multiple time world champion Saulo Ribeiro. I think this also applies to other combat sports.. Teachers at times let their students catch them if their technique is crisp and fluid, and of course, some students also pull off a good technique when their teacher is caught napping... Quote Link to comment
sujiro Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Everyone taps to someone lower in rank at one point.. its part of the game. That's why its called training I assume you don't do any BJJ or grappling yet?? not yet..im currently working on my cardio in a commercial gym..are BJJ schools equipped with cardio/exercise machines? i thot dat was big deal when Palhares submitted Big Nog, besides Big Nog is two-weight class heavier.i just dont know what kind of chokes or locks he used to tapped him.i know in BJJ schools esp. in the Phils ankle locks/heel hooks are prohibited because of the risks involved.so, how can any1 master that leglocks? train in Sambo? do Pinoy MMA used that in a fight? Quote Link to comment
sujiro Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 From BloodyElbow - GSP:"I Think Anderson Silva Has to Fight Yushin Okami" "That's not what I said. What I said is it's a complete re-orientation of my career. People are saying crazy stuff, like "Oh, you just have to gain 30 pounds and take the fight and fight him in three months." I can't (gain) 30 pounds in three months. It would take a lot more than that. If I want to go up in weight class." "Plus, (Anderson) Silva fights at light heavyweight as well. So he walks around at … he's probably 40 pounds heavier than I am (off season). So if I fight this fight, it might be at a catch weight. If it happens." "It's something I'm not thinking about right now because it's not my number one priority. I've had a lot of success at 170. If I move to 185, I need to talk to my sponsors, my trainers. It's a complete change of life. Do I want to take the risk, maybe yes. Maybe It's going to be a great challenge. Maybe, no. But I have to talk with my trainers. ... I have to fight Jake Shields, I think Anderson Silva has to fight Yushin Okami." "I'm not afraid of nobody in the world. I'm a martial artist. If it happens [with] the right timing and everything, if it is how I want it, and how he wants it. I fight whoever they want. I can fight everyone in the world. I don't mind." - just like i said, this fight wont happen.everytm GSP makes an interview, all of our hopes for this superfight is dying.GSP is becoming a Gayweather everyday..i dont know what 30 pounds he is saying..GSP walks around 192lbs in the Alves fight and AS weighed 183lbs in the Leites fight, so probably Anderson walks around 200lbs during that fight..its roughly 10 lbs difference between the 2 fighters, and GSP has yet to gain weight on that. Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Some teachers will actually let a lower belt 'catch' them from time to time as a teaching method too... The most famous BJJ teacher I could think of who does this is Diego Sanchez's BJJ coach and multiple time world champion Saulo Ribeiro.locally you've got Carlo Pena from VPF who'd intentionally get tapped by blue belts during rolling, to get us lower ranked dudes a moral boost of sorts. i say intentionally because if you've rolled with Carlo you know you're in a world of hurt & seeing blue belts catch him in a collar choke does wonders for one's morale. - just like i said, this fight wont happen.everytm GSP makes an interview, all of our hopes for this superfight is dying.GSP is becoming a Gayweather everyday..i dont know what 30 pounds he is saying..GSP walks around 192lbs in the Alves fight and AS weighed 183lbs in the Leites fight, so probably Anderson walks around 200lbs during that fight..its roughly 10 lbs difference between the 2 fighters, and GSP has yet to gain weight on that.dude that's why he's so dominant in 170, because he's got everything down as a science: his walking weight, his diet, weight cutting, the way he trains, etcdoesn't really sound gaywetherish to me, besides Okami had it long coming (title shot that is) Quote Link to comment
geneticfreak Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 dude that's why he's so dominant in 170, because he's got everything down as a science: his walking weight, his diet, weight cutting, the way he trains, etcdoesn't really sound gaywetherish to me, besides Okami had it long coming (title shot that is) Yup. I actually remember him using shark cartilage for his joint recovery. I think it really is more of him being 'precise' about everything than anything else. All his statements about gaining weight the right way and how there's a significant difference in size between him and Anderson at the moment are all true. Gaining about 20-30 lbs of lean mass is no joke and yes he does have to put in a significant amount of time and training to gain weight the right way (Olympus and all the other trainers here on the board would say the same thing). I think this precise, scientific approach applies to all fighters who train under Greg Jackson plus of course the fact that he has been competing in the octagon for a long time himself and has all that experience under his belt. Oh here's a little bit of local MMA news... The Philippine Games and Amusements Board (GAB) has now allowed 'elbow' strikes in the URCC and other professional MMA promotions. This will definitely be an interesting dynamic to add to the already flourishing MMA scene in the country (and on a personal note another reason for me to work my muay thai again. hehe.) Quote Link to comment
sujiro Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 (edited) he dont have to gain 20-30 pounds, just 10-15 lbs.. he already walks @ 190, so if he add just 10 lbs, he will just need to cut 15 lbs to make it to 185.. why is it hard for him and not on BJ Penn and Anderson Silva..BJ walks @ 165, yet ballooned to 192, just to fight Lyoto. and Machida couldnt even finish a bloated LW.. besides,he keeps telling how big AS is, but he is also the one suggesting the fight to be @ 170 or catch weight (that means around 180)..that's ironic..he can't add 15 lbs, and yet he suggests his opponent whom he said walks @ 230 to cut to 170? i hope AS will be crazy enough to drop down to 170 to frontkick GSPs ass.. Edited March 11, 2011 by sujiro Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 not yet..im currently working on my cardio in a commercial gym..are BJJ schools equipped with cardio/exercise machines? i thot dat was big deal when Palhares submitted Big Nog, besides Big Nog is two-weight class heavier.i just dont know what kind of chokes or locks he used to tapped him.i know in BJJ schools esp. in the Phils ankle locks/heel hooks are prohibited because of the risks involved.so, how can any1 master that leglocks? train in Sambo? do Pinoy MMA used that in a fight? Just my advice bro, you can work your cardio as much as you want but you'll still get gassed when you roll since its a new environment... The simplest way to get in bjj shape is by rolling often straight footlocks are allowed for the blue belt level and up in bjj competitions AFAIK.. heel hooks, knee bars are for brown belt level if I got that right of course, if you want to use them in an mma fight, then you have to train them. Dennis Salazar submitted Celso Guda using a heel hook in the last fearless fighting championship that was held at the new ynares center in pasig a few years back Quote Link to comment
riceb0i Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 he dont have to gain 20-30 pounds, just 10-15 lbs.. he already walks @ 190, so if he add just 10 lbs, he will just need to cut 15 lbs to make it to 185.. why is it hard for him and not on BJ Penn and Anderson Silva..BJ walks @ 165, yet ballooned to 192, just to fight Lyoto. and Machida couldnt even finish a bloated LW.. besides,he keeps telling how big AS is, but he is also the one suggesting the fight to be @ 170 or catch weight (that means around 180)..that's ironic..he can't add 15 lbs, and yet he suggests his opponent whom he said walks @ 230 to cut to 170? i hope AS will be crazy enough to drop down to 170 to frontkick GSPs ass..that's why BJ gets beat by the elite of the WW division and got beat by Lyoto cause he was not in shape Just my advice bro, you can work your cardio as much as you want but you'll still get gassed when you roll since its a new environment... The simplest way to get in bjj shape is by rolling oftenyes sir, when i started BJJ i was still smoking 5-7 sticks a day, at first it was damn tiring... i kept gassing out but after a couple of months i was holding my own even if i was smoking... now it's a different story with me not smoking any longer sir Quote Link to comment
JustSmile=) Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Maia vs Munoz is now official for UFC 131.. two guys with sub par boxing but with two different styles on the ground.. I wonder if Munoz will take Maia down and impose his ground and pound knowing damn well that he can be submitted in a heartbeat.. If Sonnen gets jail time come his court appearance, Bisping, I guess will be fed to Vitor.. Just for the fun of it, I hope they do it in Brazil.. Quote Link to comment
Brownman Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Breaking news....Zuffa owns Strikeforcehttp://www.mmanews.com/news/89340 Quote Link to comment
JustSmile=) Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 ^^ Oh Yeah!Zuffa definitely owns MMA, but Dana said that it will be operated independently - for now.. much like a minor league.. I'm sure Zuffa will merge Strikeforce with UFC when time comes.. Cant wait for promising guys from SF to make it to the big show.. Now, if he wants, Nick Diaz can back-up his words that he can beat up GSP.. And this definitely proves one thing, Fedor and M1 really kills a promotion, from Bodog, Affliction, and now Strikeforce.. Fedor should rededicate himself and part ways with M1.. Near impossible, but we'll never know.. Let's see what will happen.. From previous reports, Dream and WVR is almost bankrupt as well.. Bellator is doing good - for the moment.. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Maia vs Munoz is now official for UFC 131.. two guys with sub par boxing but with two different styles on the ground.. I wonder if Munoz will take Maia down and impose his ground and pound knowing damn well that he can be submitted in a heartbeat.. at least Mark Muñoz is getting consistent exposure. can't wait for this fight! Quote Link to comment
pogi1119 Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Opens up a lot of possibilities ... Overeem vs Velasquez, Fedor vs Lesnar, Diaz vs GSP/Shields, etc. But bad news for Barnett, Hendo and Daley(harharhar!!!) ... and also Female Fighting Cris Cyborg, Carano ... (oh no!!!!) Breaking news....Zuffa owns Strikeforcehttp://www.mmanews.com/news/89340 Quote Link to comment
riotulis Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 Mag Masters, confirmed na po ba ito? http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/16/1996537/dana-white-says-the-ultimate-fighter-philippines-will-be-the-start-of TIA Quote Link to comment
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