ray004 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 i think it was a premature stoppage..with 20 seconds remaining on that round, brandon could've survive the attack. i never saw a clean shot landed by werdum that could put vera in trouble. crossing his arms in front of his face and moving his head from side to side, to me, i thought was a good defensive move. just a bias opinion Quote Link to comment
Great Milenko Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 The time has come for Matt Hughes to retire. I hope that Vera now realizes that he has to drop to LHW. Michael Bisping vs Rich Franklin next... Overall, not a bad UFC event. Ang bilis ng mga laban. Quote Link to comment
JustSmile=) Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 (edited) Even if the ref did not stop Vera's match prematurely, it's just a matter of time before Werdum will stop him on the ground. I don't know what's next for Vera cause even if he drops down to LHW, he will not do well in that animal-filled division. C'mon Hendo, Shogun, Iceman, Rampage, Wanderlei, Forrest. I really don't think he's in that level YET. Just like what Matt Hughes said, he just have one match left... he really wants to beat Matt Serra.. I hope Hughes goes out in a bang by knocking Serra the f*ck out. Edited June 8, 2008 by G_sKiLLz Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 It's not a controversial loss for Vera. As you can see, he's not even defending himself very well. He didnt even bother to punch or counter the attack. Might be better for him to go back here and join URCC instead. Or might be best if he could use Richard Gutierrez as his sparring partner for his next fight. WAR TEAM GUTIERREZ! :evil: Of course, he wont be able to punch Werdum, he was mounted?! The best defense was to cover, which he was doing.. Werdum threw punches that never really stunned him.. Brandon would have survived that round if not for the ref.. What I would agree though is that he needs to go down to 205 or 185. Quote Link to comment
The_Blade Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 i think it was a premature stoppage..with 20 seconds remaining on that round, brandon could've survive the attack. i never saw a clean shot landed by werdum that could put vera in trouble. crossing his arms in front of his face and moving his head from side to side, to me, i thought was a good defensive move. just a bias opinion i agree it was apremature stoopage... vera reacted and stand up immediately after the stoppage. he was not hurt at all. but according to werdum vera uttered something to the effect 'stop stop'...... :thumbsdownsmiley:gesh, i should have stayed one more day in shanghai instead... Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 i agree it was apremature stoopage... vera reacted and stand up immediately after the stoppage. he was not hurt at all. but according to werdum vera uttered something to the effect 'stop stop'...... :thumbsdownsmiley:gesh, i should have stayed one more day in shanghai instead... joe roagan ask werdum to confirm if he really heard brandon saying "stop, stop.." he said it was something to that effect but really wasn't sure. a fighter would not protest vehemently if he really gave up in my opinion. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 brandon vera entered the cage with BEP's "Bebot"..i got goosebumps on my arms upon hearing the background. throughout the pre fight he was really emphasizing of being proud of his filipino heritage..i think the guy deserve RESPECT Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 now is the right time to move to LHW, badtrip, i was really banking on him to win against Werdum, bawi n lng next time Vera.. Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 2 things. Vera must lean how to disengage in the clinch since this is how Sylvia and Werdum dominated him Find better guys to train with, especially in the ground. he had no ground defense whatsoever and yeah, move down to LHW. However, i think he just might get axed by Dan White after what happened as for Hughes, he's just outdated and old. Though I'd love to see him beat Mat "Joe Pesci" Serra so at least he goes out with a bang Quote Link to comment
M16A2 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) ..... Edited June 9, 2008 by M16A2 Quote Link to comment
M16A2 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) Of course, he wont be able to punch Werdum, he was mounted?! The best defense was to cover, which he was doing.. Werdum threw punches that never really stunned him.. Brandon would have survived that round if not for the ref.. What I would agree though is that he needs to go down to 205 or 185. Nah I disagree. It was not a bad call by the ref vera defendED himself from a barrage of punches by covering his face all the time, and that is NOT AN INTELLIGENT DEFENSE in MMA. Hell he wasnt even trying to buck his opponent off of him neither did he try to move his opponent closer to him to nullify those punches. Ive seen a lot of MMA fighters counter a full mount by doing what i have mentioned. Im not saying that im better than vera he would certainly whoop my ass. But he should polish his grappling skills and consider adding judo to his training method. Vera became a victim of an ouchi gari and another sweep I forgot what its called. Vera had no idea how to counter them. I didnt know that Fabricio Werdum had a judo background. Edited June 9, 2008 by M16A2 Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Find better guys to train with, especially in the ground. he had no ground defense whatsoever and yeah, move down to LHW. However, i think he just might get axed by Dan White after what happened correct 2x he's turning one dimensional Hell he wasnt even trying to buck his opponent off of him neither did he try to move his opponent closer to him to nullify those punches. you can't buck if you have Werdum's feet under your back punching would just open you up to more (heavier) punches from above it's not as easy as it looks he shouldn't have been mounted in the first place, Brandon had a very weak guard game, another thing he should develop. Quote Link to comment
textickles Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 It's not a controversial loss for Vera. As you can see, he's not even defending himself very well. He didnt even bother to punch or counter the attack. Might be better for him to go back here and join URCC instead. Or might be best if he could use Richard Gutierrez as his sparring partner for his next fight. WAR TEAM GUTIERREZ! :evil: I agree... :thumbsupsmiley: :thumbsupsmiley: :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
fatso8 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Nah I disagree. It was not a bad call by the ref vera defendED himself from a barrage of punches by covering his face all the time, and that is NOT AN INTELLIGENT DEFENSE in MMA. Hell he wasnt even trying to buck his opponent off of him neither did he try to move his opponent closer to him to nullify those punches. Ive seen a lot of MMA fighters counter a full mount by doing what i have mentioned. Im not saying that im better than vera he would certainly whoop my ass. But he should polish his grappling skills and consider adding judo to his training method. Vera became a victim of an ouchi gari and another sweep I forgot what its called. Vera had no idea how to counter them. I didnt know that Fabricio Werdum had a judo background. sana yun nga ginawa nya.. kaya lang he can't reach werdum's head.. early stoppage by ref,for me. If he allowed Werdum to connect with 2-3 solid punches then I wont complain. anyway, parang ka-built lang ni Vera si Bisping.. Bakit di na lang sya mag-slide sa 185? Quote Link to comment
ambrosio Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Pre mature stoppage.... Halos ganun din nangyari sa mga bouts na si Dan Miragliotta and referee. Too bad. Tsk,tsk,tsk... Quote Link to comment
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