camiar Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) Naging personalan na nag kalakaran sa politics ng bansa natin..isang example yang nangyayarr kay trillanes at PRRD... Napakapangit tingnan.. Imbis na atupagin ng mga inihalal nating mga leaders ang problema ng bayan eh mas parang napaprioritized pa itong mga ganitong bangayan.. Ang media lang naman ang nagpa-prioritize. Buti naman nasa SC na ang bola. Sundin na lang ang sasabihin ng Korte Suprema. Si Trillanes dapat dine-dedma na lang. Mali ang Malacanang na patulan pa yang ugok na yan. Edited September 9, 2018 by camiar Quote Link to comment
Dark Omen Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 First di pa ba malinaw yung video na session sa senate na sinabi ni Enrile na pabalik balik siya sa china for what reason at don't take notes sa meeting? Totoo kaya ang rumors na nabenta na ang isla ng pilipinas bago umupo si duterte at for publicity lang kuno ang petition ni Pnoy sa The Hague? Aside sa video pinakita na panay deny niya at sinasabi niya na classified daw. So regards to that charge agad for Treason na nagbentahan na ng isla for their own benefit of his group, Secondly yung Oakwood Mutiny sinasabi niya na di raw sila nag kudeta ehh kung sa North Korea nga General na sangkot sa anomalya pina firing squad eh. You're still saying this despite the fact that Trillanes already showed documentary and video proof that his amnesty application is without any hiccups?Di basehan yung mga videona proof dahil pag tinanong ng SC yan kailangan nila ng original hard copy nung application na nabigyan siya ng amnesty ayon sa isang lawyer yun sa isang news. ^may video nga ngsubmit cya, but the video only proved he's submitted his application, it does not prove na completo lahat binigay nya at dumaan sa tamang proseso according to the procedure for applying amnesty (i.e. dun sa job applicant sample ko: there's CCTV footage of the job applicant handing out his requirements to the HR, but the CCTV could not show na may kasamang medical certificate dun)Agree on this hindi ka 100% applied or pasok sa isang trabaho kung kulang ka ng requirements kumbaga ehh nagenroll ka sa school nagbayad ka nga ng tuition sa application to enroll pero wala kang other requirements like birth certificate or previous school grade cards. Quote Link to comment
moneyball Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 @wiideliva, so basically, you're also saying that the LTO can revoke your license because they can't find your application? And like I said earlier, Trillanes also showed documentary proof. The military also keeps records of such, I'm sure. Quote Link to comment
Bolj Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On Proclamation 572: blatantly illegal. Nagkamali si Duterte this time around. Sa factual basis pa mali na agad, sabay may illegal arrest orders pa. The SC can bend over backwards for him only so much. Milagro na yan kung i-uphold pa ng SC yung Proc 572.Atty. Panindigan mo itong sinabi mo ha, tingnan natin kung hit or miss ka. Sa merits palang mukang kulang na pagka conclude mo. Quote Link to comment
vinsanity23 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Hindi pa arrested diba? Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Nabebenta kasi Pardon dito. Politika ang dahilan kaya napapardon mga yan. Dahil sa pardon na yan naging attack dog ng LP yang si Trillanes, ayun nadale si Binay. Nung humina sa survey si Du30 naman yung tinira. Pero tama si Camiar, hintayin na lang matapos termino ni Trillanes next year. Kagaya ni Erap dapat nasa kulungan na yan. Quote Link to comment
mtcBatman Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 is it really "revoked"? sa pagkakaintindi ko his amnesty is invalid to begin with xD ginamit nlng ung butas na yon laban sa kanya.. guys wag papauto sa media, news hit lang habol ng mga yan, And to trillanes, gawin mong bodyguard si matobato, bigyan mo ng itak na baliktad ang talim Quote Link to comment
jcs1000 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Whether you are pro or anti Trillanes, this amnesty revocation is not good for the country. It will reflect on the credibility of the Philippine government. Imagine this - If in the future, the Philippines wants to promote peace by encouraging rebels to surrender by offering them amnesties, sinong gago ang maniniwala na ngayon? thus, amnesty shall be processed with due diligence otherwise such would be void. past gov't gave politically motivated amnesty and was then used purposely on such beneficial to them. Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) thus, amnesty shall be processed with due diligence otherwise such would be void. That's exactly my point about credibility. Due diligence is done and is typically more importantly when you do not trust the person or entity you are dealing with. Now that we know that our own government can renege on a previous agreement, we know that we can't trust them and must do this so called due diligence before accepting an amnesty. Pano na ngayon itong mga rebelde na most likely konti lang ang pinagaralan. How do you expect them to do due diligence with no formal education? Duterte just destroyed one of the governments tools for promoting peace. He is destroying the governments credibility. past gov't gave politically motivated amnesty and was then used purposely on such beneficial to them. Really? When Aquino gave the amnesty to the Magdalos back in 2010, he was already thinking about using Trillanes to attack Binay and Duterte in 2016? Advanced mag-isip? Hindi ba niya naisip na yung mga ibang binigyan niya ng amnesty eh kakampi kay Duterte? How about this idea: Ang mga Dutertes ay inis na inis na kay Trillanes dahil sa mga pasabog niya. Kaya nila itong pahiyain by just signing the waiver or showing the tatoo pero hindi nila magawa (I wonder why). Wala silang makuhang dumi kay Trillanes, kaya nagiimbento nalang sila ng kaso. No doubt this is personal for Duterte. With more important issues concerning the country, he chooses to go after Trillanes for such a trivial issue - an application. Edited September 11, 2018 by juan t 1 Quote Link to comment
notsky Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 (edited) Agree ako kay JuanT,sa style ng gobyerno ngayon pag kalaban ka e hindi ka man lang tatagal ng isang buwan sa pwesto kung may mga kalokohan kang itinatago. Bulatlat lahat mahanapan ka lang ng butas. Sa sobrang taba ng utak nila naisip pa nila itong amnesty chuchu na ito. Hindi ko idol c trilanes, pero malinaw naman kung sino ang mali dito. Edited September 11, 2018 by notsky Quote Link to comment
sanchezZZZzz Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Dapat makulong Yan si trillanes,, nanggulo Yan at gumawa ng gulo sa Manila pen dati.. kung Hindi makukulong Yan, pamamarisan Yan ng ibang tao!! Quote Link to comment
BenRoethlisberger Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 This is the news thats being show while back in the congress they are silently discussing passing TRAIN 2..,Basic concept of misdirection Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On Trillanes' accusations against Duterte and family: madalas below the belt na. If he has the goods, he should go to court. Otherwise, pamumulitika lang niya yan. On Proclamation 572: blatantly illegal. Nagkamali si Duterte this time around. Sa factual basis pa mali na agad, sabay may illegal arrest orders pa. The SC can bend over backwards for him only so much. Milagro na yan kung i-uphold pa ng SC yung Proc 572. SC denied Trillanes' petition for TRO. Quote Link to comment
Bolj Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Agree ako kay JuanT,sa style ng gobyerno ngayon pag kalaban ka e hindi ka man lang tatagal ng isang buwan sa pwesto kung may mga kalokohan kang itinatago. Bulatlat lahat mahanapan ka lang ng butas. Sa sobrang taba ng utak nila naisip pa nila itong amnesty chuchu na ito. Hindi ko idol c trilanes, pero malinaw naman kung sino ang mali dito.O really? Paki share naman sino sino mga sinasabi mong na tanggal. At malinaw ba talaga sino may mali? Sige nga paki sabi nalang kung sino. Quote Link to comment
combatjames Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Isang more balls than brains tapos isang more brains than balls. Kayo na lang pumili sino ang alin. Quote Link to comment
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