rooster69ph Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 i dont think so... wait till the fat lady sing!you dont think so ... and what would be your basis? do you have at least 2nd hand knowledge of said facts? or you are swayed by your leaning towards this admin. the fat lady wont ever sing ... she has been manipulated Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 fine then ...isa lang naman ang tanong lahat ba ng na grant ng amnesty eh fully complied at hindi natulad kay trililing? otherwise shouldn’t be the amnesty of these people all be voided and not only trililing. Ang sinagot dito is if someone questioned it. Kanya kanya naman sila nag file kaya hidni naman automatic na kapag na void yung isa void na rin yung iba. Si Trillanes kasi masyadong uhaw sa media kaya ayun nag backlash sa kanya. Bakit hindi siya o ikaw ang mag question sa iba para maimbistigahan na rin di ba. Own action naman ni Calida yung kay Trillanes para lumakas ka Du30 eh, so unless may ibang mag reklamo ng formal di gagalaw yung sa iba. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Ang sinagot dito is if someone questioned it. Kanya kanya naman sila nag file kaya hidni naman automatic na kapag na void yung isa void na rin yung iba. Si Trillanes kasi masyadong uhaw sa media kaya ayun nag backlash sa kanya. Bakit hindi siya o ikaw ang mag question sa iba para maimbistigahan na rin di ba. Own action naman ni Calida yung kay Trillanes para lumakas ka Du30 eh, so unless may ibang mag reklamo ng formal di gagalaw yung sa iba.Was there anyone who questioned the validity of trillanes'amnesty? AFAIK it was self initiated by this administration. Why dont the admin initiate as well dun sa mga kaalyado kung as they said dahil irregular lang talaga and they are not trying to single him out. Mukhang iisa ang motibo iba-iba lang ang pamamaraan. Agree ka ba? Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Was there anyone who questioned the validity of trillanes'amnesty? Sinagot ko na yan diba ayaw mo lang maniwala? AFAIK it was self initiated by this administration. Why dont the admin initiate as well dun sa mga kaalyado kung as they said dahil irregular lang talaga and they are not trying to single him out. Mukhang iisa ang motibo iba-iba lang ang pamamaraan. Agree ka ba? Naka broadcast naman na sinabing kung may mag question. Bakit walang gustong mag lakas loob? Bakit hindi dinamay si Alejano, baka kasi kumpleto papeles? Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 (edited) Naka broadcast naman na sinabing kung may mag question. Bakit walang gustong mag lakas loob? Bakit hindi dinamay si Alejano, baka kasi kumpleto papeles?Nope in one interview sinbi niya na dumaan sila ng parehong processo ni trililing. So now u know bakit di kapanipaniwala ang sinagot mo. Hindi ba nakabroadcast din yun mga pinagsasabi ni dutae na di natupad kaya nga binabatikos ni trililing. Ano nangyari? Edited September 28, 2018 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Nope in one interview sinbi niya na dumaan sila ng parehong processo ni trililing. So now u know bakit di kapanipaniwala ang sinagot mo. Hindi ba nakabroadcast din yun mga pinagsasabi ni dutae na di natupad kaya nga binabatikos ni trililing. Ano nangyari? E di questionin niyo rin yung kay Alejano and others. Wala naman problema sa akin yun. Tanong nga bakit walang gumagawa ng pormal puro laway. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Hay...read and understand the last paragraph. Sige sisimplehan ko ... sa tingin mo kapag may nagreklamo uusad ba ito o pagaaksayahan ni calida tulad ng pagaaksaya niya ng panahon kay trililing despite un mga press release? Nagpapaniwala ka pa ba sa lahat ng pinagsasabi nila? Besides why should i or anyone still question that of alejano when in fact he already made a public statement about it. That in itself should trigger an investigation...if and only if they want to Quote Link to comment
jc44 - RETIRED Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 E di questionin niyo rin yung kay Alejano and others. Wala naman problema sa akin yun. Tanong nga bakit walang gumagawa ng pormal puro laway. That is a great question. The answer is... complicated. Mostly because this Duterte regime can't make up its mind on what basis to use to invalidate Trillanes' grant of amnesty. Under Proc 572, dahil daw "no application was filed." This pertained specifically to Trillanes, so siya lang ang may problema dapat. When various secondary evidence surfaced showing that, yes, Trillanes did in fact file an application for amnesty, biglang kambyo: now the issue is, former DND Secretary Gazmin signed the Certificate of Amnesty daw, ergo hindi daw valid yung grant of amnesty because <insert flimsy legal reasoning here>. There goes the problem: it has been a matter of practice and expedience that after a President issues a proclamation granting amnesty (which is itself the act of granting amnesty as provided in the Constitution), the tasks of processing the applications and approving the applications based on the guidelines provided in the presidential proclamation are delegated to either a Cabinet Secretary or a Commission convened for that specific purpose. So under the new theory, *all* amnesty grantees from the time of Marcos were invalidly granted amnesty, as pretty much all past Presidents granted amnesty in this manner. So paano na? Under the first theory walang problema, si Trillanes lang ang may sabit. Kaya lang, walang factual basis. Under the second theory naman, kung invalid dahil lang si Gazmin yung nakapirma, eh di under the constitutional principle of equal protection, dapat lahat ng kaso ng lahat ng amnesty grantees ibubuhay ulit. Sinu-sino ang mga isasama? - Oakwood mutineers- RAM boys like Sen. Honasan- MILF- CPP-NDF-NPA- MNLF (kasama si Duterte BFF Nur Misuari) Sa tingin niyo ba ganun kalala maghanap ng away si Duterte? Quote Link to comment
flatwall Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Check Makuklong k ulit Sundalong kanin Quote Link to comment
Calvin Chua Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Hindi pwede arestuhin si Trillaned according dun sa hatol judge. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Hindi pwede arestuhin si Trillaned according dun sa hatol judge. ok lng yan... may binubuong court martial yun na lng antayin ni Sen. Trililing Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) ok lng yan... may binubuong court martial yun na lng antayin ni Sen. Trililing court martial for a civilian? good luck with that. Edited October 23, 2018 by juan t Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Score 1 more for the good guys: Trillanes - 2 Duterte - 0 Quote Link to comment
Calvin Chua Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 ok lng yan... may binubuong court martial yun na lng antayin ni Sen. TrililingBakit ba galit na galit si Idol Tatay kay Trililing ano ba nagawa nyang kasalanan? Yung importer ng billion shabu tahimik sya? Just asking Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 Bakit ba galit na galit si Idol Tatay kay Trililing ano ba nagawa nyang kasalanan? Nakakatawa ka naman kung hindi mo pa alam sagot dyan. Score 1 more for the good guys: Trillanes - 2 Duterte - 0 But the court upholds the voiding on the proclamation of amnesty right? Quote Link to comment
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