Left-Wing Parties: The Truth & Lies About Philippine Communism

[tk421]

Communism/socialsm is part of political spectrum. Theres nothng wrong with that. Part ng curriculum yan sa social science.

 

Even if magng ganun ang paniniwala ng isang tao, walang isyu dun. What is against the law is the armd struggle. Yan ang NPA.

 

Kaya i disagree with the earlier statement na pag naniwala sa kanila, NPA na. Hndi po ganun un na automatic.

 

Exactly!

[Bolj]

Kala ko you said you don't want to generalize? Anyways. If you have a smaller army, the best strategy is to use guerilla warfare. Or haven't you read about what our forces did during the Japanese occupation. And I'm not saying the NPA is right, ah. I'm just saying it's a logical strategy.

 

Define nga natin ano ang NPA. It is the Armed faction (kaya nga ARMY eh) of the leftist group. Yun mga nag ra rally ba may armas? Are they killing government soldiers? Parang sinabi mo dahil we're part of the Philippines nasa Army na din tayo? Ganun ba? So I'm working in DPWH kunwari, part ba ako ng Philippine Army? Ikaw, you support the PNP ideals, are you part of the PNP?

 

 

 

How are you sure they use our tax money for those effigies? I'm assuming you have receipts? And those so-called payment for people to join the rally... you have the money trail, also or are those mere assumptions?

 

BTW, since we're talking about misappropriation of funds anyways. Have you also checked how the more mainstream congressmen use our tax money? Bagong SUV/Hummer or whatever it is they're driving nowadays...

In case you Didn't realize, i was trying to point out the lacking words in Your post para maintindihan ni daphne. Gets?

 

And no need to school me on military stuffs and history. I can refute your claim na pag smaller army - the best is guerilla warfare dapat, depende yan sa terrain at the environment. Too many times in greek and roman history, the times when they had smaller army didn't resort to guerilla warfare. Israelites, macedonians, Germanic tribes...etc...you can't even count on your 10 fingers the times where guerilla warfare was used in the military course of history that won.

[vienvenido]

Significant (or big part) portion of current legal front movers came from university's youth movement. Maraming na entice and naromanticizd sa konsepto ng socialist/communist movement.😊😊😊😊

[tk421]

In case you Didn't realize, i was trying to point out the lacking words in Your post para maintindihan ni daphne. Gets?

And no need to school me on military stuffs and history. I can refute your claim na pag smaller army - the best is guerilla warfare dapat, depende yan sa terrain at the environment. Too many times in greek and roman history, the times when they had smaller army didn't resort to guerilla warfare. Israelites, macedonians, Germanic tribes...etc...you can't even count on your 10 fingers the times where guerilla warfare was used in the military course of history that won.

Talk about generalizations again.

 

Ikaw na nga nagsabi depende sa terrain at environment ang pag gamit ng guerilla warfare.

 

I ask you this: does the Philippine terrain and environment qualify as a good candidate for guerilla warfare?

[Bolj]

Hindi ba gumamit ng guerrilla tactics ang karamihan ng wars? Oo hindi nasabi sa mga books at history pero it is part of the strategy ng bawat wars ang gumamit ng ganitong style. I personally think na isa ito sa ginamit na strategy ng mga commanders in order to win a bigger war.

Sa tingin ko nakikita mo ito sa part ng groups na mayroon technological advancement. Ang guerilla tactics is integral part ng strategy to win when you have an inferior army, technology, and info.

Hindi ba gumamit ng guerrilla tactics ang karamihan ng wars? Oo hindi nasabi sa mga books at history pero it is part of the strategy ng bawat wars ang gumamit ng ganitong style. I personally think na isa ito sa ginamit na strategy ng mga commanders in order to win a bigger war.

Sa tingin ko nakikita mo ito sa part ng groups na mayroon technological advancement. Ang guerilla tactics is integral part ng strategy to win when you have an inferior army, technology, and info.

Hindi ibig sabihin smaller army ka guerilla agad ang best, yan ang punto. Well opinion mo yan, ako based on history and military facts.

[Bolj]

Talk about generalizations again.

Ikaw na nga nagsabi depende sa terrain at environment ang pag gamit ng guerilla warfare.

I ask you this: does the Philippine terrain and environment qualify as a good candidate for guerilla warfare?

Nvm nalang halatang d mo na gets. Inayos ko nga statement mo para maiba ang pagka intindi ni daphne. Wla akong pake sa iba mong reply after that. Pa Philippine terrain kapa and environment dyan, baket may NPA vs Army ba sa ibabaw ng megamall?

 

Maybe next time you post on police/ military stuffs, opinions and analysis - i'll just group you with the 3 other trolls that doesn't need to be given attention.

[Bolj]

Hindi ba gumamit ng guerrilla tactics ang karamihan ng wars? Oo hindi nasabi sa mga books at history pero it is part of the strategy ng bawat wars ang gumamit ng ganitong style. I personally think na isa ito sa ginamit na strategy ng mga commanders in order to win a bigger war.

Sa tingin ko nakikita mo ito sa part ng groups na mayroon technological advancement. Ang guerilla tactics is integral part ng strategy to win when you have an inferior army, technology, and info.

Ganito yan brad, kung sa umpisa palang inayos na at sinabi ang opposing forces, conditions wla na tayong pag uusapan. Wag na tayu mag over extend sa missiles.

[tk421]

Nvm nalang halatang d mo na gets. Inayos ko nga statement mo para maiba ang pagka intindi ni daphne. Wla akong pake sa iba mong reply after that. Pa Philippine terrain kapa and environment dyan, baket may NPA vs Army ba sa ibabaw ng megamall?

Maybe next time you post on police/ military stuffs, opinions and analysis - i'll just group you with the 3 other trolls that doesn't need to be given attention.

Well di ko ma-intindihan ano ba ang goal mo sa post mo. Mag ba butt in ka para i dispute yun small army vs big army at using guerilla tactics tapos sinabi mo na nga depende sa terrain tapos ngayon ayaw mo i acknowledge na yun na nga ang logical tactic para sa kanila.

 

Ano yun? Para lang masabi mo na well read ka sa military stuff*s*.... In short mema lang ba yun?

 

My answer to terrain/environment was in response to this statement of yours:

Sna pag lumaban sila harapan, ayaw naman nila makipaglaban sa Gov't Forces ng harapan eh.

Tapos ngayon iiwas ka at may megamall ka pa dyan.

 

Kung di sya effective for them, bakit nandyan pa din sila after so many decades?

 

On to other stuff(s), then...

Edited December 16, 2017 by tk421

[Bolj]

Lols. May alam ka ba na small army na hindi gumamit ng guerilla tactics in order to win a war?

Basa nalang ulet history books brad, wla tayong dapat pag awayan.

[Bolj]

"If you have a smaller army, the best strategy is to use guerilla warfare".

 

Lagyan mo ng "like the NPA" after ng smaller army. Magkakasundo tayo.

 

Anyway sa bait ko about lumaban sila ng harapan, lets just say its a bait to challenge their ideals.

[tk421]

Mema talaga. We are talking about in the context of the Philippines, sus. Kelangan talaga i expand yun usapan para lang masabing may alam sa military tactics.

 

Sige na. Para sa NPA guerilla tactics ang best strategy para sa kanila.

 

Hindi ko pa din kino condone yun just in case anyone (not you, specifically) needs reminding.

 

At ang army ang laban sa battlefield. And ibang leftist groups ang laban within the legal system. So ewan ko ano ang di mo maintidihan dun. Pinaglalaban nila ideals nila ibat iba lang ang platforms nila.

Edited December 16, 2017 by tk421

[Bolj]

Mema talaga. We are talking about in the context of the Philippines, sus. Kelangan talaga i expand yun usapan para lang masabing may alam sa military tactics.

Sige na. Para sa NPA guerilla tactics ang best strategy para sa kanila.

Hindi ko pa din kino condone yun just in case anyone (not you, specifically) needs reminding.

At ang army ang laban sa battlefield. And ibang leftist groups ang laban within the legal system. So ewan ko ano ang di mo maintidihan dun. Pinaglalaban nila ideals nila ibat iba lang ang platforms nila.

Thank You :-)

 

@ daphne - brad as of now ilang country pa ang may successful communism? May idea ka. You think makaka uwe pa kaya si sison?

[tk421]

The same chance of a) getting rid of the leftist movement; uplifting the life of the poor; c) Duterte being consistent with his decisions. So no: he will not be coming back to PH anytime soon.

 

And need I remind you being leftist does not also equate to communism? Pwede namang socialist, no?

Edited December 16, 2017 by tk421

[Bolj]

don't worry bolj. I know much about history and civilisation. And from what i read, ang GT ay isang uri ng strategy na ginagamit ng mga commanders kapag sa kanilang tingin ay hindi sila nasa advantage.

No army, big or small ang hindi gumagamit nito. Kapag sa tingin nila eh nasa alanganin sila strategically.

Again opinion mo yan brad, btw brad iba ang Guerilla Strategy sa Guerilla Tactic. Again hindi ibig sabihin na mas maliit ang army mo automatic guerilla ka kaagad. Start up nina alexander the great, julius ceasar, joshua (bible), greeks, macedonians, examples of some of their wars not won by Guerilla Warfare.

[Bolj]

kindly look even further sa mga examples mo. Ang mga examples mo eh nanalo gamit ang kanilang advantage. Ang hindi ako sigurado eh kay joshua.

Tech advantage ang meron sa mga examples mo. Hindi magkaiba ang tactics at warfare. Iba lang ang word pero ang kanilang idea is same. To use military tactics to combat a large group of opponents.

1. Alexander the great - superior military strategy against barbarians

2. Julius ceasar - same as above

3. Greeks and macedonians - superior weaponry

Kung maliit ang army mo at mas maliit ang army ng kalaban mo. No use ang gt/gw. Gagamit ka nito kung sa tingin mo eh nasa disadvantage ka tactically. Kung maliit ang army mo at malaki naman sila. You can use this dahil magiging mobile ka at hindi ka madali i-track.

Guerilla tactic/wars/strategy ay ilan lang sa mga paraan na pwedeng gamitin ng isang general. Sinasabi mo na walang wars na ginamit lang eh guerilla tactics. Marahil nakalimutan mo na ang guerilla tactics ay isa lang sa mga paraan na pwedeng gamitin ng mga commanders kung sa tingin nila ay kailangan nilang gamitin ito. Kung sinasabi mo na walang wars na nagwagi sa pamamagitan lang ng guerilla tactics. Sasabihin ko naman sa iyo na ang wars na alam mo ay gumamit ng ganitong strategy sa kanilang pakikipag digma.

Lumilihis ka sa punto, ang punto ko nung sinabi nya na guerilla strategy ang best agad pag smaller army dun ako nag object. Ngayun mga sinasabi mo mga superior tech nina alexander, ang point ko sa mga leaders na sample ko many times sila smaller army na nanalo sila without using guerilla warfare., malayo kana sa punto hindi yan ang pinagdedebatihan. Kahit sang mo tingnan brad iba ang execution ng tactic at strategy so wag no na ipilit. Edited December 17, 2017 by Bolj