Poll: Bongbong Marcos Vs Leni Robredo

[Emperor Eye]

Yes to Ilocos Empanada.

No to Marcos.

 

 

 

[Rechsteiner]

Marcos Jr. lost the VP race and held onto a FIVE YEAR electoral protest that was essentially junked due to insufficient evidence.... and people still believe the guy? lol

[camiar]

This video was made in honor of SAF-44, and to the armed services in general.

Notice how BBM extols the courage and honor of our soldiers, laments the fate of SAF-44, without dramatic and emotional outburst. Without blaming anyone in particular. 

This video message is directed to those who think rationally. Those who have opened their minds and are aware of what's happening around them.

 

[NightGamer]

Marcos’ resume, posted at the Senate’s official website, boasts of  him as having obtained a bachelor of arts degree in political science, philosophy and economics from Oxford University (1975-1978) and a master’s in business administration (MBA) from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania (1979-1981).

If in small things he can LIE, surely he couldn't be trusted in anything.  Matutoto na tayo sa pagkakaruon ng sinungaling na pangulo. 

[Duel of Fate]

for the record, i think Leni is a shrewd as a politician as GMA and Miriam. for a housewife who's only had less than 10 official years as a public servant she knows the bureaucracy all too well. people in the know say Jessie was just the face but Leni had always been the brain. She's also no saint. 

pero against Bongbong??? 

eto kasi, walang solid na accomplishment maipakita si Bongbong. No vital laws passed as a Senator, as an Ilocos stalwart his best resume shows mayaman sya, he signed some local docs para maapprove ang private business permits (THAT ALL LGU POLITICOS DO) like Bangui Windmills and the Tourism campaign. 

and whats the worse thing they can hit Leni? Rice porridge, math and english slip up, nagka boyfriend after maging biyuda. yun lang. 

Only reason im picking Leni over Bongbong because walang hard hit na publicly maibato sa kanya. sana man lang may masabi na pumirma sya ng ma-anomalyang kontrata, nagpapicture sya sa business tycoon na maraming under the table, may connection sa mafia, nagmarijuana nung college. isang national security concern man lang to destroy her and her gung ho supporters. 

[Vince3]

On 10/12/2021 at 2:26 PM, camiar said:

From 1986 to 2021 -- that's 35 long years of trying to prove the alleged crimes and stolen billions. Was the justice system suppressed during the past 35 years that it failed to prove the Marcoses guilty of the crimes and the purported billions of dollars worth of wealth still to be found?

If you care to look at cases that were filed against them for which the prosecution won, they're civil cases with values so insignificantly small compared to their claims of massive tens of billions of dollars. No murder, torture, rape, or human rights abuses were ever proven. Most possibly because the charges were false or the prosecutors filed the the criminal cases against the wrong people. 

I used to be anti-Marcos during the People Power era. I used to believe the yellow movement narratives and fully supported Cory Aquino. But years later, as more facts came to light, I began to see the hypocrisy and ineptness of the yellow regime and became convinced that the narrative I naively believed were mostly lies.

Then I moved on. Now I base my decision on hard facts, not on irrelevant propaganda. 

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/910/1460/1943938/

Marcos was found guilty in multiple international laws. The link above was just a sample.

Imelda was recently found guilty of graft and corruption in 2014.

174Billion Pesos recovered by PCGG since 35 years ago. In the international case in Honolulu, investigation on the documented sources of income of the Marcos' family was included. They have been claiming that investment on gold reserves even before presidency is the reason for their wealth.  If this is true, why is there no documentation of it.

Previous international cases, local and international historians, local and international social economic reports all point that there was 1) violation of human rights 2) economic decline 3) corruption. 

I am actually open to think otherwise but the usual reasons or evidence have always been lacking. "Ginawa lang ng Aquino". "Mayaman na sila before". "Nahirapan lang yung mga pasaway". 

Golden period at time of martial law. But documented numbers says otherwise. Rate of unemployment, decrease in salary for both skilled and unskilled workers. Even the peso to dollar rate, they always say 1$ to 2P pero that was the start of martial law. 1$ to 20+P at end of martial law.

It seems we're not looking at the same evidence and I would honestly appreciate that you share me your references. Hoping I could learn from you. Thank you

[bluepanther]

when you say #neveragain, what do you think that means?

 

is it...

1. pag nanalo si marcos Jr. eh ibabalik ang martial law

2. ayaw nyo ng isang marcos sa president seat dahil pareho sila ng tatay nya

3. hindi pwedeng magkaroon ng martial law, kahit kelan which is contradicting to our Constitution,

 

san dyan sa tatlo?

[bluepanther]

On 10/23/2021 at 5:17 PM, Duel of Fate said:

for the record, i think Leni is a shrewd as a politician as GMA and Miriam. for a housewife who's only had less than 10 official years as a public servant she knows the bureaucracy all too well. people in the know say Jessie was just the face but Leni had always been the brain. She's also no saint. 

pero against Bongbong??? 

eto kasi, walang solid na accomplishment maipakita si Bongbong. No vital laws passed as a Senator, as an Ilocos stalwart his best resume shows mayaman sya, he signed some local docs para maapprove ang private business permits (THAT ALL LGU POLITICOS DO) like Bangui Windmills and the Tourism campaign. 

and whats the worse thing they can hit Leni? Rice porridge, math and english slip up, nagka boyfriend after maging biyuda. yun lang. 

Only reason im picking Leni over Bongbong because walang hard hit na publicly maibato sa kanya. sana man lang may masabi na pumirma sya ng ma-anomalyang kontrata, nagpapicture sya sa business tycoon na maraming under the table, may connection sa mafia, nagmarijuana nung college. isang national security concern man lang to destroy her and her gung ho supporters. 

... sa ngayon maaaring wala pa, pag naupo na yan, siguradong meron yan, lalo nasi tillanes ang little president nya

[camiar]

20 hours ago, Vince3 said:

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/910/1460/1943938/

Marcos was found guilty in multiple international laws. The link above was just a sample.

Imelda was recently found guilty of graft and corruption in 2014.

174Billion Pesos recovered by PCGG since 35 years ago. In the international case in Honolulu, investigation on the documented sources of income of the Marcos' family was included. They have been claiming that investment on gold reserves even before presidency is the reason for their wealth.  If this is true, why is there no documentation of it.

Previous international cases, local and international historians, local and international social economic reports all point that there was 1) violation of human rights 2) economic decline 3) corruption. 

I am actually open to think otherwise but the usual reasons or evidence have always been lacking. "Ginawa lang ng Aquino". "Mayaman na sila before". "Nahirapan lang yung mga pasaway". 

Golden period at time of martial law. But documented numbers says otherwise. Rate of unemployment, decrease in salary for both skilled and unskilled workers. Even the peso to dollar rate, they always say 1$ to 2P pero that was the start of martial law. 1$ to 20+P at end of martial law.

It seems we're not looking at the same evidence and I would honestly appreciate that you share me your references. Hoping I could learn from you. Thank you

They claim that Marcos stole up to US$ 30 billion.

That's Php 1.53 TRILLION peso equivalent.

The anti-Marcos Government had 35 years to recover that alleged stolen wealth. Yet they only managed to find a bloated figure of Php 174 Billion, just a fraction of what they claim Marcos stole.

What does that tell you? Either the anti-Marcos government was so inept and incompetent that they recovered just small a fraction of what they claim, or the claim of stolen wealth is just one big hoax.

 

[camiar]

8 hours ago, bluepanther said:

... sa ngayon maaaring wala pa, pag naupo na yan, siguradong meron yan, lalo nasi tillanes ang little president nya

The oligarchs and vested interest groups would love to have Leni as President because she will never be able to have a coherent government with such a hodgepodge of incompatible senatorial slate: Trillanes vs. Gordon vs. Binay vs. Delima vs. etc...

She will be too busy getting a consensus from all these senatorial bets with conflicting self-interests that she will not be able to govern the country.

A divided government administration is easy to manipulate - just what the vested interest group wanted.

[bluepanther]

Rappler is so busy in their bid to destroy Marcos and Marcos only, i thought they are a media outlet,

But, WHY?

RAPPLER should be renamed and Marya Ressa should return her nobel prize, she really doesn't deserved it... nakakahiya

[hit05]

I am no Marcos fan but when comparing campaign resources, his adversary's funding is definitely bottomless.  We are all witness to the mighty propaganda and branding Leny got.

 

Can't people feel how strong media censorship has become that quiets the apprehension of patriotic government officials who denied Jesse from becoming Secretary of DILG 3x? His death had to happen to prevent investigation of who helped him get into power despite lack of basic qualification - which is the basis for rejecting his appointment. I can just imagine where this country is heading to. Maybe it will retrogress into a silly revolution that incites the anger of the unthinking crowd towards politicians like BBM and his family. 

The manner Jessie died was investigated in the Senate on live television. It is an eyeopener. It can be linked to the death of Ninoy, and even to the death of Ramon Magsaysay.  Truly, reality is more bizarre than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj]

On 10/25/2021 at 10:22 PM, camiar said:

They claim that Marcos stole up to US$ 30 billion.

That's Php 1.53 TRILLION peso equivalent.

The anti-Marcos Government had 35 years to recover that alleged stolen wealth. Yet they only managed to find a bloated figure of Php 174 Billion, just a fraction of what they claim Marcos stole.

What does that tell you? Either the anti-Marcos government was so inept and incompetent that they recovered just small a fraction of what they claim, or the claim of stolen wealth is just one big hoax.

 

BBM claims they are actively participating in returning the money to the Filipino people. Since they are now participating, Edi inaadmit yung mali. Kasi kung Walang mali then they contest correct?

Kaya Bat mo sasabihin hoax? Mas magaling ka pa sa Marcos? Kapal naman ng mukha. Ulol ka di ka dapat pkinggan! Tanga mo! Wag ka mag magaling. Bunganga na bbm nagsalita. Idiot!

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj]

18 hours ago, bluepanther said:

Rappler is so busy in their bid to destroy Marcos and Marcos only, i thought they are a media outlet,

But, WHY?

RAPPLER should be renamed and Marya Ressa should return her nobel prize, she really doesn't deserved it... nakakahiya

So busy???? So kung Di ibobroadcast na magnanakaw at kawatan si marcos, then true media na sila? Bobo mo boy! Wala ka utak

[jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj]

37 minutes ago, hit05 said:

I am no Marcos fan but when comparing campaign resources, his adversary's funding is definitely bottomless.  We are all witness to the mighty propaganda and branding Leny got.

 

Can't people feel how strong media censorship has become that quiets the apprehension of patriotic government officials who denied Jesse from becoming Secretary of DILG 3x? His death had to happen to prevent investigation of who helped him get into power despite lack of basic qualification - which is the basis for rejecting his appointment. I can just imagine where this country is heading to. Maybe it will retrogress into a silly revolution that incites the anger of the unthinking crowd towards politicians like BBM and his family. 

The manner Jessie died was investigated in the Senate on live television. It is an eyeopener. It can be linked to the death of Ninoy, and even to the death of Ramon Magsaysay.  Truly, reality is more bizarre than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.

Classic response, “I am Not a marcos fan but….”. Sounds like bakla trying to pretend na Hindi bakla. What an imbecile.

 

your fictional claim here seems like a libellous info. Magkabayag ka at magpkilala ka at Patunayan na May proof yang claim mo.