Poll: Bongbong Marcos Vs Leni Robredo

[Ryuji_tanaka]

BBM.

 

You can practically smell the desperation of the Yellow Army to get their bets as Prez and VP in the home stretch of the elections. It may be Leni directly doing it, but its definitely the Yellow Army doing some Hocus PCOS. They have the means, the motive, and opportunity.

[azraelmd]

Nde matanggap ni bongbong na matatalo sya sa dayaan o lets say irregularity....nde dahil matatalo sya sa political neophyte....mas ok pa siguro na sabihin na nde matanggap na matalo sa yellow army...

 

About the marcoses.....yup...i agree sa pinagsasabi ng lahat....na dapat basahin yun history books....but sino ba nagsulat o naglagay ng history after na madeposed si marcos? From term ni cory nagstart....and syempre puro mga negatives ng mga marcoses nilagay....at alam yan ng mga so called millenials....matatalino na mga bata ngayon...maybe alam nila na nde totoo ang lahat na nakalagay sa history books....

 

Besides...kay ninoy palang....na pinapalabas na hero and martyr....sabi nga ng mga posters dito...dalang aquino na ang naging presidente...yun isa asawa yun isa anak...bakit nde nila pinaimbestiga ulit kung sinong pumatay kay ninoy...baka magulat ang taumbayan sa resulta at mailagay na naman sa history books?

 

Lets wait na matapos nalang ang bilangan...tutal unang sinabi ni marcos na may nagbago ng script..and yun camp ni leni nagsabing ala and comelec lang makakasagot dun...then inamin ng comelec na may nagiba din ng script....so medyo fishy nga yun...

 

And yes i voted for marcos...pero as much as i abhor calling someone a troll....pero i think a troll lang ang magsasabing alang pakialam sa bansa ang bumoto sa marcos eh....and i wouldnt consider myself millenials...id rather say/ or call us the voltes five babies....

Edited May 14, 2016 by azraelmd

[Mad Damian]

Final na ba result?

[Erebus]

My senses says none.

[punkee]

About the marcoses.....yup...i agree sa pinagsasabi ng lahat....na dapat basahin yun history books....but sino ba nagsulat o naglagay ng history after na madeposed si marcos? From term ni cory nagstart....and syempre puro mga negatives ng mga marcoses nilagay....at alam yan ng mga so called millenials....matatalino na mga bata ngayon...maybe alam nila na nde totoo ang lahat na nakalagay sa history books....

 

Besides...kay ninoy palang....na pinapalabas na hero and martyr....sabi nga ng mga posters dito...dalang aquino na ang naging presidente...yun isa asawa yun isa anak...bakit nde nila pinaimbestiga ulit kung sinong pumatay kay ninoy...baka magulat ang taumbayan sa resulta at mailagay na naman sa history books?

 

I dont remember if I posted it, but in one conversation with a chairman of a publishing group, he shared to me that for quite a while now, there is a very wealthy group who funds many publishing houses and in exchange, the publishers should use their writers. The group not only gives money but travel junkets to europe, etc. It is in this context that one of the books written by one of the group's writers mentions that Martial Law was the golden age of Philippine History.

 

Well, that is one rich group. And that is one way to literally re-write history. My friend never mentioned who is this wealthy group. All I can say is, your guess is as good as correct. :-)

[everyman]

So far, wala pa namang proof na nagkaroon ng dayaan. Kahit yung kampo ni BBM pang press release lang ang akusasyon at walang pormal na inihaing reklamo sa Comelec dahil walang pang matibay na ebidensya ang nadidiskubre para ihain sa pollbody.

 

Yung hashtag issue is an issue of breach of protocol at hindi tungkol sa integrity ng vote count. Kahit si Marcos election lawyer and former Comelec Commisioner Sixto Brillantes ang nagsabi na bitawan na yung issue na yan at minor lang yan. Alam niyang hindi makakaapekto sa bilangan yung hashtag issue na yan. Malinaw mga repapips, pwede na tayo mag move on.

[everyman]

^What I meant is move on na tayo sa issue ng hashtag. Yung issue kung may dayaan siguro i-bring up na lang kung may lumabas na ebidesya na lang.

 

Yung issue kung sino ang nanalo, let's be clear on this, e hindi pa naman tapos. Tingin ko hindi agaran matatapos ito dahil nandyaan na mga de kalibreng mga election lawyers na sila Sixto Brillantes para kay BBM at Romulo Makalintal para kay Robredo. Magbubunuan ito sa mga returns per precinct dahil sa liit ng vote difference ng dalawang magkatunggali. Sana lang yung totoo nanalo ang lumabas at hindi basta nadaan sa pagalingan ng abugado.

[Ryuji_tanaka]

^What I meant is move on na tayo sa issue ng hashtag. Yung issue kung may dayaan siguro i-bring up na lang kung may lumabas na ebidesya na lang.

 

Yung issue kung sino ang nanalo, let's be clear on this, e hindi pa naman tapos. Tingin ko hindi agaran matatapos ito dahil nandyaan na mga de kalibreng mga election lawyers na sila Sixto Brillantes para kay BBM at Romulo Makalintal para kay Robredo. Magbubunuan ito sa mga returns per precinct dahil sa liit ng vote difference ng dalawang magkatunggali. Sana lang yung totoo nanalo ang lumabas at hindi basta nadaan sa pagalingan ng abugado.

Hashtag or hashcode ba?

 

and from what I remember its supposed to verify data integrity, so if naiba siya, may nagiba ng file.

[everyman]

^may tama ka, hachcode nga brotha

 

May nagiba nga, yung cosmetic change from ? to enye ng Roy Seneres, properly explained ng Comelec at Smartmatic naman pero obviously may breach of protocol dahil any change however small kailangan ng decision ng Comelec en banc. Mas bininigyan ko ng mas mabigat na halaga yung opinion ni Marcos lawyer at ex Comelec Commisioner Sixto Brillantes dahil alam niya yang pasikot-sikot ng automated election at siya ang representante ni Marcos kay full trust sigurado yan ng kampo ni BBM. May pagdududa ka pa ba nun sa opinion niya?

 

Madali lang naman i-verify yan kung binago nga yung vote count ng transparency server kasi may separate count naman ang Comelec at kung sa pagkakaalam ko, may mga poll watcher naman ang bawat kampo sa bawat presinto sa bawat probinsya. Nung election day mismo malamamng nauna pa nila nakuha yung bilang ng bawat probinsya, e di ikumpara lang sa lumabas sa PPCRV quick count, meron namang per province count nasa GMA website. Kung may dayaan sa bilang basyo agad sigurado.

 

Yung nabilang na malabo madaya pa, nasa transparency server at open sa public yang bilang na yan. Yung mga hindi pa nabilang kamo ang delikado na madaya.

[haroots2]

A breach of protocol is a serious matter. Hindi man lang alam ng Comelec na may ginalaw ang Smartmatic dito before BBM accusation, bigla na lang aaminin after the accusations. Ang sabi ng Smartmatic is only a cosmetic change kaya hindi na inireport. Na check ba ng Comelec na yun lang ba talaga ang ginawa nila?

Wala namang accountability ang Smartmatic sa count ng election after the turnover so bakit may access pa sila? Isa lang ang masasabi ko dito mahina ang I.T. group ng Comelec.Bakit pinalitan ng ñ ang transparency server? Yun bang Central server naka ñ na para hindi na dapat palitan?

[Nel Horan]

though i voted for BBM i think Leni will be just fine..

[rooster69ph]

Given yun result ng survey sa mtc about vice presidency kung saan malaki ang bumoto kay bbm, i was expecting na more people would be voting that they think na nagkaroon ng dayaan. Surprisingly at this point mas nakakarami ang naniniwalang walang dayaan.

 

Ang akin, oo nagalaw ang hashcode na hindi dapat sana mangyari. Nangyari ang di dapat nangyari, pero ang tanong may patibay bang nandaya o ginagawan lang ng issue dahil di matanggap ang pagkatalo. In short gustong idaan sa technicalities. I think its the latter. We all know that the ultimate goal of bbm is to become the country's president. Imho malaking dagok sa future plans niya ang "matalo" sa isang leni "the lackey" robredo, a virtual nobody in the world of politics.

 

Again, may kasabihan you can't teach old dogs new tricks ... Accepting defeat has always been hard to swallow for the Marcoses as they almost always have it their ways. Remember the ppcrv quick count is not official but supposedly is already an indication of the actual result assuming there was no cheating that really transpired.

[dos8dos]

looking forward to 2022 presidential election

 

progresibong TRAPO vs simpleng BYUDA part2

[jopoc]

looking forward to 2022 presidential election

 

progresibong TRAPO vs simpleng BYUDA part2

 

 

baka presidenteng byuda ang makakalaban nya.....

[camiar]

Our company makes machine code programs. I know it is possible to program a "sleeper code" in the machine program and it can be activated by changing the value of any trigger tag like simple "?" changed to "#". The changed value will "wake-up" and activate the "sleeper" algorithm.

 

If there was fraud, the hashcode change was just a triggering mechanism. Another algorithm could have been introduced or a sleeper code was in the program right from the start.

 

That is why I share the suspicions of Contreras. I think the Smartmatic's hashcode change could have triggered a sleeper code. A forensic evaluation should be done.

 

Excerpt from news report:

 

"...For his part, Contreras noted that based on the evaluation he conducted with David Yap, his fellow university professor, it was revealed that the rise and fall of the count of all the vice presidential candidates showed a uniform pattern which was unusual.
He pointed out that such occurrence was not normal in elections especially when results from all areas were being transmitted on random.
“There should have been a spike either down or up depending on areas where the votes were transmitted but in the vice presidential race, the graph showed a uniform upward line and then after the 80 percent transmission rate, Sen. Ferdinand Marcos Jr’s numbers fell in a linear line which is very abnormal,” he said.
Contreras explained that the linear line can only be the result of the data having been manipulated or a system introduced which should not be there.
“It was not only Marcos and (Liberal Party bet Rep. Leni) Robredo who we assessed but all the candidates in the vice presidential race. All of their tally formed a straight line which is impossible to happen except when there is another program introduced. We believe there was a manipulation that happened,” he said.
Both said they were not supporting a particular candidate but were merely interested in ensuring the integrity of the elections."

Edited May 17, 2016 by camiar