cytus Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Need a little help from you guys in terms of understanding my stand in my faith: I was raised as a christian and for the longest time i blindly believed in my church's ideologies. But as of recent, i'm starting to think that everything is not what it seems and that the idea of a supreme being that will take notice of a tiny speck in the face of existence (humans) is starting to elude me.I still believe in Jesus' teachings and in most of the Christian faith, but I'm also starting to believe in a myriad of gods and pantheism, yet I also believe that what we know as humans is limited and we are yet, if impossible, to comprehend things beyond the material realm. I also believe in Galileo's quote that science and mathematics are the language in which God has written the laws of the universe. Can I still call myself a Christian, or am I an agnostic that hopes for a god to believe in? Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Need a little help from you guys in terms of understanding my stand in my faith:I was raised as a christian and for the longest time i blindly believed in my church's ideologies. But as of recent, i'm starting to think that everything is not what it seems and that the idea of a supreme being that will take notice of a tiny speck in the face of existence (humans) is starting to elude me.I still believe in Jesus' teachings and in most of the Christian faith, but I'm also starting to believe in a myriad of gods and pantheism, yet I also believe that what we know as humans is limited and we are yet, if impossible, to comprehend things beyond the material realm. I also believe in Galileo's quote that science and mathematics are the language in which God has written the laws of the universe.Can I still call myself a Christian, or am I an agnostic that hopes for a god to believe in?I will move this post of yours to "Agnostics and Atheists" thread as this relates more of non-religious concept than otherwise. Quote Link to comment
Ignatum Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) Need a little help from you guys in terms of understanding my stand in my faith: I was raised as a christian and for the longest time i blindly believed in my church's ideologies. But as of recent, i'm starting to think that everything is not what it seems and that the idea of a supreme being that will take notice of a tiny speck in the face of existence (humans) is starting to elude me.I still believe in Jesus' teachings and in most of the Christian faith, but I'm also starting to believe in a myriad of gods and pantheism, yet I also believe that what we know as humans is limited and we are yet, if impossible, to comprehend things beyond the material realm. I also believe in Galileo's quote that science and mathematics are the language in which God has written the laws of the universe. Can I still call myself a Christian, or am I an agnostic that hopes for a god to believe in? If you are a Pantheist then you are not a Christian. Satan invented polytheism to set aside monotheism. Zeus, Baal and other mythological figures are nothing but faces of Satan himself. Edited September 13, 2015 by Ignatum Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 If you are a Pantheist then you are not a Christian. Satan invented polytheism to set aside monotheism. Zeus, Baal and other mythological figures are nothing but faces of Satan himself. He sounded like an Agnostic Theist. And it is interesting to note about his inclination to believe in Pantheism, a doctrine that equates God with the forces and laws of universe. The principle of Theistic satanism may hold a variety of beliefs such as pantheistic, polytheistic, and/or gnostic-based theologies. Quote Link to comment
Spanner_works Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Need a little help from you guys in terms of understanding my stand in my faith: I was raised as a christian and for the longest time i blindly believed in my church's ideologies. But as of recent, i'm starting to think that everything is not what it seems and that the idea of a supreme being that will take notice of a tiny speck in the face of existence (humans) is starting to elude me.I still believe in Jesus' teachings and in most of the Christian faith, but I'm also starting to believe in a myriad of gods and pantheism, yet I also believe that what we know as humans is limited and we are yet, if impossible, to comprehend things beyond the material realm. I also believe in Galileo's quote that science and mathematics are the language in which God has written the laws of the universe. Can I still call myself a Christian, or am I an agnostic that hopes for a god to believe in? Well, it's difficult to say if you're still a Christian unless you specify which doctrine you are now starting doubt. There are alot of Christian denominations but at the minimum you must believe that there is one God and that a specific individual called Jesus was the Son of God, and is the savior of humanity, the Christ/Messiah prophesied in the Old Testament. If you are a Pantheist then you are not a Christian. Satan invented polytheism to set aside monotheism. Zeus, Baal and other mythological figures are nothing but faces of Satan himself.Huh. What does polytheism have anything to do with Pantheism? Quote Link to comment
airport-noo Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Need a little help from you guys in terms of understanding my stand in my faith: I was raised as a christian and for the longest time i blindly believed in my church's ideologies. But as of recent, i'm starting to think that everything is not what it seems and that the idea of a supreme being that will take notice of a tiny speck in the face of existence (humans) is starting to elude me.I still believe in Jesus' teachings and in most of the Christian faith, but I'm also starting to believe in a myriad of gods and pantheism, yet I also believe that what we know as humans is limited and we are yet, if impossible, to comprehend things beyond the material realm. I also believe in Galileo's quote that science and mathematics are the language in which God has written the laws of the universe. Can I still call myself a Christian, or am I an agnostic that hopes for a god to believe in? Don't worry about it. We don't wake up one morning and suddenly become one or the other. It takes a great deal of reflection over a long period. Einstein, Lincoln and Beethoven agrees with you at some point in their life. They're not evil satanists and neither are you. You said you believe in Jesus' teachings and in most of the Christian faith. That's good enough for me but probably not good enough for others. What we think of you and how we label you are irrelevant. It's the people you care about that matters. If some of them think you don't belong in their church, well tough luck for us we can't force ourselves to believe what we don't believe. Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Huh. What does polytheism have anything to do with Pantheism? If I may butt in, both shared the common belief about (the existence of) God thus the suffix term - theism. And therefore both have something to do with religion for that matter. Quote Link to comment
MODERATOR Alex_Corvis Posted September 29, 2015 MODERATOR Share Posted September 29, 2015 Need a little help from you guys in terms of understanding my stand in my faith: I was raised as a christian and for the longest time i blindly believed in my church's ideologies. But as of recent, i'm starting to think that everything is not what it seems and that the idea of a supreme being that will take notice of a tiny speck in the face of existence (humans) is starting to elude me.I still believe in Jesus' teachings and in most of the Christian faith, but I'm also starting to believe in a myriad of gods and pantheism, yet I also believe that what we know as humans is limited and we are yet, if impossible, to comprehend things beyond the material realm. I also believe in Galileo's quote that science and mathematics are the language in which God has written the laws of the universe. Can I still call myself a Christian, or am I an agnostic that hopes for a god to believe in? We have the same dilemma dude. I was born and raised as a Catholic. Studied in Catholic schools a few years in elementary and whole 4 years in the College. I even became a member and then an office of a religious group in our university. I do believe in God but not the god of Catholics as we know it. I believe in many gods. I believe in Allah, Buddha, Yahweh, Muhammad, Bathala etc, but I consider their teachings more like Philosophical discourses and just guideline to morality. I even believe on all things mysterious, aliens, predators, vulcans, the Force, kapre, tikbalang. I'm even leaning more on greek and norse pantheism nowadays. Trouble with love? Ask Cupid and Aphrodite. Want to be a standup comedian? Ask Anansi if he can make you sound funny. So my point is, I believe in all those gods/supernatural being, but i also believe that above all of these, there is one Unfathomable Supreme Being Up There, who doesn't have a name who's made all this thing happen (including The Big Bang) silently watching us and our decisions w/o judgement. We only owe him our existence. Is there such a thing as Agnostic Polytheist? Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Is there such a thing as Agnostic Polytheist? Mod Alex, I suppose that falls under Hard polytheism or Omnitheism Not sure though. But other people call it simply as is. Quote Link to comment
p4tr1ck Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Everything in this world is an endless process of creation and destruction...it makes our life insignificant.. Nature doesnt really care whether we live or die.. Everything is governed by law of nature.. Therefore we should be thankful.. Existence is better than void.. Quote Link to comment
vgbond Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Everything in this world is an endless process of creation and destruction...it makes our life insignificant.. Nature doesnt really care whether we live or die.. Everything is governed by law of nature.. Therefore we should be thankful.. Existence is better than void.. You can have your own opinion about your life but I think *my* life is significant. And I'm thankful for it Quote Link to comment
Pnat8R Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 We have the same dilemma dude. I was born and raised as a Catholic. Studied in Catholic schools a few years in elementary and whole 4 years in the College. I even became a member and then an office of a religious group in our university. I do believe in God but not the god of Catholics as we know it. I believe in many gods. I believe in Allah, Buddha, Yahweh, Muhammad, Bathala etc, but I consider their teachings more like Philosophical discourses and just guideline to morality. I even believe on all things mysterious, aliens, predators, vulcans, the Force, kapre, tikbalang. I'm even leaning more on greek and norse pantheism nowadays. Trouble with love? Ask Cupid and Aphrodite. Want to be a standup comedian? Ask Anansi if he can make you sound funny. So my point is, I believe in all those gods/supernatural being, but i also believe that above all of these, there is one Unfathomable Supreme Being Up There, who doesn't have a name who's made all this thing happen (including The Big Bang) silently watching us and our decisions w/o judgement. We only owe him our existence. Is there such a thing as Agnostic Polytheist?Kapatid meron pong Pangalan ang Dios na makapangyarihan sa lahat... At mapalad ang mga taong sa kanya ay nakakakilala... Kung kilala mo ang Pangalan ng Dios Anak ay tiyak na Makikilala mo din naman ang Pangalan ng Ama nya... Sapagkat Ang Dios Anak "ang Daan, Katotohanan at Buhay"The Big Bang Theory is a process of Destruction not Creation... Quote Link to comment
Spanner_works Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Kapatid meron pong Pangalan ang Dios na makapangyarihan sa lahat... At mapalad ang mga taong sa kanya ay nakakakilala... Kung kilala mo ang Pangalan ng Dios Anak ay tiyak na Makikilala mo din naman ang Pangalan ng Ama nya... Sapagkat Ang Dios Anak "ang Daan, Katotohanan at Buhay"The Big Bang Theory is a process of Destruction not Creation...What is missing from this assertion is evidence. Where is your evidence that you are so confident in the veracity of your statements? Furthermore, what do you mean the Big Bang Theory is a process of Destruction not Creation? Quote Link to comment
p4tr1ck Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Lets understand this... Before the bigbang happened.. Scientist say time doesnt exist.. If time doesnt exist then... How can there be a god? Quote Link to comment
p4tr1ck Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 We dont know for sure whether if there is a god or not.. But what cause the big bang?there must have been a natural force that trigger big bang to happen.. What if on other hand time really exist before the big bang... There are some theory suggest a multiverse.. That the contact between two universe cause the explosion to happen.. Quote Link to comment
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