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Well siguro nga Sir may point ka dun... Thank you sa advice napapa isip tuloy ako coz tinimbang ko... Tama ka rin...

I'm glad you think so :). The thing is, I'm just saying na unahin mo muna matupad ung mga goals mo, kung bakit ka nagpapakahirap mag trabaho at kung ano ang priorities mo. Hindi ko naman sinasabing bawal na tayo umibig along the way, sometimes mahirap din iwasan lalo na kung may makilala tayong tao na sa tingin natin honest at mapagmahal at gusto natin makasama habang buhay. Ang sakin lang, ok, sige umibig ka, pero wag mo din pabayaan ung sarili mo at mga pangarap mo. Wag ka din umasa na may sasalo sa mga pangarap mo dahil mahirap na, baka may kapalit pala yan na hindi maganda at habang buhay mo pagbabayaran. Ang pinakamahirap bayaran ay ung utang na loob dahil walang limit yan. Madami nang nakaalis sa ganyang hanap buhay at nakgaron ng ibang trabaho, so I think kaya mo din yan kahit sa sarili mong sikap, kung yan ang gusto mo.

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If you can drink the milk, why do you need to buy the whole cow? ika nga

 

Haha. Para sa karne sir. :D

 

 

Kumbaga, di lang ES yung habol mo. Kundi yung pagiging exclusive mo sa kanya. Ikaw lang at siya. Wala ng iba.

 

Unless, fetish mo na may tumitirang iba sa mahal mo.

 

Pero yun nga, there is always two sides of the coin. Swerte kung para sayo (mahal nyo ang isa't isa), malas kung hindi (mahal mo + mahal niya pera mo). Love Conquers All.

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At first I thought these girls play the game at pina-iikot ikot lang yung mga guest nila. Pero there was this girl na nagka-crush doon sa isang friend ko, at tinanong ko siya: uso pa rin pala yung umibig dito. She said, sa dami dami ng mga lakaling aming nakikilala, hindi maiiwasang mangyari e muholog ka sa isa sa kanila.

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At first I thought these girls play the game at pina-iikot ikot lang yung mga guest nila. Pero there was this girl na nagka-crush doon sa isang friend ko, at tinanong ko siya: uso pa rin pala yung umibig dito. She said, sa dami dami ng mga lakaling aming nakikilala, hindi maiiwasang mangyari e muholog ka sa isa sa kanila.

The problem with this environment kase, it's too easy for some people, lalo na ang newbies, to conclude na mahal mo ung tao dahil nga may physical contact na nangyare. Minsan dumadating sa punto na nagiging vulnerable ung tao, either ung client o ung babae dahil nadadamay na ung emotions sa madalas na pakikipagsalamuha sa isang babae o client lamang. Nasa satin na un kung pano natin ihandle ika nga ung emotions natin at wag basta basta magpadala dahil unang una, alam naman natin na hindi pagibig ung binibili mo sa kanila kundi ung serbisyo. Let's not get our emotions mixed up kahit na sabihin nung isa na may crush sya sayo or sabihin nya na mahal ka na nya. Madali lang un sabihin, pero ano ba talaga ung pinag ugatan nun at ano ang kaya mo isakripisyo para sa kanya? Like any other business deal, kung talo ka at alam mong malulugi ka, umatras ka na.

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Well mahirap talaga mag debate kapag love ang pag uusapan.. Even the Supreme Court in the landmark case of Chua-Qua vs. Clave (1990) had a hard time deciding a case which involves LOVE. In 1976, a teacher married her student and got fired. The Supreme Court, quoting "The heart has reasons of its own which reason itself does not know," took her side!

 

AGAIN, "The heart has reasons of its own which reason itself does not know".

 

Your reasons and arguments are true on a case to case basis. To the lady who sought advice, miss just follow what your heart desires. Do what will make you happy. :-)

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The problem with this environment kase, it's too easy for some people, lalo na ang newbies, to conclude na mahal mo ung tao dahil nga may physical contact na nangyare. Minsan dumadating sa punto na nagiging vulnerable ung tao, either ung client o ung babae dahil nadadamay na ung emotions sa madalas na pakikipagsalamuha sa isang babae o client lamang. Nasa satin na un kung pano natin ihandle ika nga ung emotions natin at wag basta basta magpadala dahil unang una, alam naman natin na hindi pagibig ung binibili mo sa kanila kundi ung serbisyo. Let's not get our emotions mixed up kahit na sabihin nung isa na may crush sya sayo or sabihin nya na mahal ka na nya. Madali lang un sabihin, pero ano ba talaga ung pinag ugatan nun at ano ang kaya mo isakripisyo para sa kanya? Like any other business deal, kung talo ka at alam mong malulugi ka, umatras ka na.

Its hard na ibalanse ang emotions and utak. lalo na kung may sexual physical contacts madalas naloloko ka ng hormones mo.

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Well mahirap talaga mag debate kapag love ang pag uusapan.. Even the Supreme Court in the landmark case of Chua-Qua vs. Clave (1990) had a hard time deciding a case which involves LOVE. In 1976, a teacher married her student and got fired. The Supreme Court, quoting "The heart has reasons of its own which reason itself does not know," took her side!

 

AGAIN, "The heart has reasons of its own which reason itself does not know".

 

Your reasons and arguments are true on a case to case basis. To the lady who sought advice, miss just follow what your heart desires. Do what will make you happy. :-)

Yes, it's true, nobody can agree or even argue if love has anything to do with our actions and it is the easiest excuse we have for our intense feelings towards someone when we do something crazy. I'm not trying to stop anyone from falling inlove (depending on how you define it) because there is nothing wrong with it as long as you are fully aware of what you are doing and you are responsible enough. The real danger lies in the consequence of that love. If we are fully aware and know how much we need to sacrifice and accept all the perils we need to face in the future and not merely jump in a dark pit, blind and unkowing, then by all means, do as you wish. If everybody did what they wanted in the name of love or happiness, that wouldn't make our world a better place to live in, most likely it'll be the opposite and we'll be living in a world of chaos. All I'm saying is, be careful, be aware, don't be blind and foolish. Make a goal, choose your path wisely, stay the course and remember, we should learn to love ourselves as well... especially ouselves.

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Well mahirap talaga mag debate kapag love ang pag uusapan.. Even the Supreme Court in the landmark case of Chua-Qua vs. Clave (1990) had a hard time deciding a case which involves LOVE. In 1976, a teacher married her student and got fired. The Supreme Court, quoting "The heart has reasons of its own which reason itself does not know," took her side!

 

AGAIN, "The heart has reasons of its own which reason itself does not know".

 

Your reasons and arguments are true on a case to case basis. To the lady who sought advice, miss just follow what your heart desires. Do what will make you happy. :-)

 

If I may argue here.

 

Hindi pwedeng puro puso at ito lagi gagawin mong palusot. May utak pa din tayo na kelangan gamitin. Kundi yan gagamitin baka imbes na maging masaya ka, eh lalo pa masira ang buhay mo. Para sakin, use your heart to feel you are still human, but make decisions with your mind not with your heart.

 

Also happiness is not a gauge if you should pursue something or not. Because hindi lahat ng nakakapagpasaya sayo nakakabuti sayo. Parang adik na masya sa shabu, yan din ba sasabihin sa kanya? Do what makes you happy? O kaya yung mga nasa extra-marital affairs, pwede mo ba magamit dahilan na yan? Hindi kasi may ibang tao ka na masasaktan.

 

Eto case in point. Yun MPA nainlove sa client, pumayag magpabahay, tapos it turned out nambubugbug pala ng babae yung lalake. Gustuhin mang hiwalayan nung MPA, hindi pwede kasi may anak na sya dito at walang ibang skillset para sustentuhan bata. Nung finally iniwan na lang ng lalake, bumalik na lang sa dating trabaho. Ito ang nangyayari kung puro ka "the has reasons of its own blah blah blah..."

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If I may argue here.

 

Hindi pwedeng puro puso at ito lagi gagawin mong palusot. May utak pa din tayo na kelangan gamitin. Kundi yan gagamitin baka imbes na maging masaya ka, eh lalo pa masira ang buhay mo. Para sakin, use your heart to feel you are still human, but make decisions with your mind not with your heart.

 

Also happiness is not a gauge if you should pursue something or not. Because hindi lahat ng nakakapagpasaya sayo nakakabuti sayo. Parang adik na masya sa shabu, yan din ba sasabihin sa kanya? Do what makes you happy? O kaya yung mga nasa extra-marital affairs, pwede mo ba magamit dahilan na yan? Hindi kasi may ibang tao ka na masasaktan.

 

Eto case in point. Yun MPA nainlove sa client, pumayag magpabahay, tapos it turned out nambubugbug pala ng babae yung lalake. Gustuhin mang hiwalayan nung MPA, hindi pwede kasi may anak na sya dito at walang ibang skillset para sustentuhan bata. Nung finally iniwan na lang ng lalake, bumalik na lang sa dating trabaho. Ito ang nangyayari kung puro ka "the has reasons of its own blah blah blah..."

Exactly my point Ed. I don't know kung bakit madami pa din naniniwala sa kasabihang "kung san ka masaya, dun ka" as if nobody needs to take into consideration ung ibang tao sa buhay mo or ung consequences sa sarili mo para lang maging masaya or dahil sa pag-ibig. Many of worst tragedies in life are the result of such thinking.

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Wag ka din umasa na may sasalo sa mga pangarap mo dahil mahirap na, baka may kapalit pala yan na hindi maganda at habang buhay mo pagbabayaran. Ang pinakamahirap bayaran ay ung utang na loob dahil walang limit yan. Madami nang nakaalis sa ganyang hanap buhay at nakgaron ng ibang trabaho, so I think kaya mo din yan kahit sa sarili mong sikap, kung yan ang gusto mo.

 

EXACTLY. Loving this 'cause it eloquently stated what I wanted to say to someone I know.

 

Nadagdagan na ata paborito kong tiga-reply dito sa thread na to in addition to sir ed ah. hehe

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Exactly my point Ed. I don't know kung bakit madami pa din naniniwala sa kasabihang "kung san ka masaya, dun ka" as if nobody needs to take into consideration ung ibang tao sa buhay mo or ung consequences sa sarili mo para lang maging masaya or dahil sa pag-ibig. Many of worst tragedies in life are the result of such thinking.

 

Well, siguro naiintindihan ko naman sila kasi at one point sa buhay ko, ganito din ako magisip. Pursue what makes you happy, focus on the positive lang at huwag negative. Pero you grow older, you become wiser, and you learn na hindi lang yan pala puro puso lagi. May mga bagay na maganda pakinggan na lang.

 

Like I always say in this thread, lahat ng tao pwede mainlove. Kahit gaano kamanyakis o kasama marunong sila mainlove. Pero it takes maturity to nurture a healthy kind of love and relationship. The one that makes you a better person. At di sapat yung basta kilig lang o libog

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Well, siguro naiintindihan ko naman sila kasi at one point sa buhay ko, ganito din ako magisip. Pursue what makes you happy, focus on the positive lang at huwag negative. Pero you grow older, you become wiser, and you learn na hindi lang yan pala puro puso lagi. May mga bagay na maganda pakinggan na lang.

 

Like I always say in this thread, lahat ng tao pwede mainlove. Kahit gaano kamanyakis o kasama marunong sila mainlove. Pero it takes maturity to nurture a healthy kind of love and relationship. The one that makes you a better person. At di sapat yung basta kilig lang o libog

I guess some people need to fall down before they learn to stand up, pero hopefully through this thread they don't need to go through hell just to know kung mainit talaga dun.

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I guess some people need to fall down before they learn to stand up, pero hopefully through this thread they don't need to go through hell just to know kung mainit talaga dun.

 

Hmmmm, as far as the thread naman is concerned, we can offer lang our perspective of the issue itself. If they offer themselves as a volunteer specimen, hindi maiiwasan na we dissect them. Pero personally, wala naman akong messiah complex. Kung may matulungan ako sa mga pino-post ko di ok. Kung magagalit din sila, at tingin nila nagmamarunong lang ako, ok din lang lol.

 

Pero tama ka din dyan. Minsan kasi maraming tao ang hindi nagtatanda hangang hindi nasasaktan. Kaya nga whenever I reflect din, naiisip ko mabuti na siguro na nasaktan ako ng sobra. At least nagtanda ako at di ko tuluyang sinayang ang buhay ko.

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We really need to feel the pain to know how it feels to breakup someone we love so that next time we will know how to cherish our relationship and not let that happen again. This is also important so that we guys don't fool around to make our love ones feel that pain also because we already know how it hurts.

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We really need to feel the pain to know how it feels to breakup someone we love so that next time we will know how to cherish our relationship and not let that happen again. This is also important so that we guys don't fool around to make our love ones feel that pain also because we already know how it hurts.

 

Yeah tama ka dito parekoy. Madami din kasi iba na pwedeng masaktan din pag di tayo nagiisip ng mabuti. Like yung pamilya from both sides. Kung kasal na pala yung lalake, magiging home-wrecker pa yung babae. Tsaka maging matalino dapat yung babae. Pag sumabit naman yung lalake sya ba pipiliin nya sa pamilya nya? Its no brainer, pag yung thera/mp/psp pinili marami syang masasaktan. Kung iiwan yung there/mp/psp isa lang masasaktan. No brainer.

 

Pero ganun talaga, minsan nakikinig mga tao sa mga payo bago masaktan, meron naman iba na masasaktan muna bago matuto

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Yeah tama ka dito parekoy. Madami din kasi iba na pwedeng masaktan din pag di tayo nagiisip ng mabuti. Like yung pamilya from both sides. Kung kasal na pala yung lalake, magiging home-wrecker pa yung babae. Tsaka maging matalino dapat yung babae. Pag sumabit naman yung lalake sya ba pipiliin nya sa pamilya nya? Its no brainer, pag yung thera/mp/psp pinili marami syang masasaktan. Kung iiwan yung there/mp/psp isa lang masasaktan. No brainer.

 

Pero ganun talaga, minsan nakikinig mga tao sa mga payo bago masaktan, meron naman iba na masasaktan muna bago matuto

I remember when I was in the same situation a few years back. Reading some of the posts here remiinded me of how it felt like, the euphoria, the intense desire, ung feeling na may nagpapabuhay sa dugo mo, and yeah, mahirap iwasan na parang droga lalo na kung ung babae madali kausap and kaya ibigay ung needs mo as a man without hesitation, without complaining, It's really all up to you, the individual, to discern the proper action, kung patatagalin mo ba or ititgil mo na. Initially I never thought that I'd get hooked, pero I tempted fate ika nga and I pushed myself to the limits as I tried to find out how far it can go. In other words, my pride and my vanity was in the way and it was blinding me. I never thought I was in love pero I was hooked nevertheless and buti nalang I was able to find the courage and the will to let her go and get my life on track. The thing is, I knew at the start na hindi uubra to have a relationship with her, pero gumawa pa din ako ng effort para alamin pa din kung pepwede and for me, not listening to my gut instinct was my biggest mistake and I paid dearly for that..

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