Falling For A Therapist - Merged Thread

[revi]

My point? MPA or saint, I girl will cheat if she feels like it.

 

+1,000,000,000..

 

At kahit ano ang higpit mo at kahit gaano ka kabait or kasama, kung gusto parating may paraan. Girls who cheat and leave their respective families in the process are selfish. They could not care less on how they would be perceived, or that their kids could suffer. As long as they are happy, and contented. Ang hindi ni alam, walang perpektong buhay and when their insatiability would kick in again, then the whole cycle repeats itself.

 

Walang kinalaman na dati siyang bayaran (GRO/MPA/PSP). O sa estado ng buhay. Nasa sa babae (o lalake) yan kung gaano sila ka-selfish. SELFISHNESS is the reason why people cheat. At sa ngayon, uso yan. Si Chavit nga pinendeho ng ka-live-in niya eh. What more ordinary folks. Before only men do this. Sabihin na natin na equality. Pati ba sa kasamaan, equality pa din. Sometimes, I think that the world is really going down the drain because people's view on morality is now skewed and is getting worse.

 

Medyo OT, pasensya na.

[blow_gobi]

Currently she's in another (Chinese-speaking) country doing sales work also. I heard she's one of the top sellers. Who knows what she's doing to get all those clients. She doesn't even speak Chinese. Well I don't want to make assumptions.

No offense meant, anyway things are hopefully over between the two of you. But I actually find her situation typically funny. I can imagine her as a very entertaining character in a sex comedy.

 

At any rate, the decision to split up is a good one. If this were to happen to me, I would perhaps be pissed off at first but will eventually be more understanding and realize that a domesticated, middle class life won't work for someone like her who seems to have so many wants in life and won't take it against her.

[Guest megalodon]

classic case of males trying to mate with one female! just be aware of your resources compared to your competitors, and whether your investments would be better served on another female!

 

what's the name of the game? isn't it to beat your competitors and win the girl? so be realistic! your competitors might be just as in "love" with her as you are, they could be just as kind, caring, fun as you are to the girl, except that they have more money! if you were in your girl's place, who would you chose?

 

great generals become great, not because they won against a more superior enemy! they become great because they know to retreat when they are faced with a more superior enemy! :thumbsupsmiley:

Much as money is a major consideration for these girls, you also have to consider if they're really into you coz feelings can't be bought by money.

[lankaface]

Boy or girl, some people cheat, some people don't. They cheat because of sex, money or both. For men it's mostly because of sex, for women it's hard to tell. I guess it's 50-50.

For men cheating is mostly due to sexual needs, for women its mostly the romance that they look for in a guy. I had one thats dead in bed but just wants a lot of mushy stuff including the GFE. But there are some strong ones that call me just for the sex cause her husband is dead naman in bed.

[Rearden]

Much as money is a major consideration for these girls, you also have to consider if they're really into you coz feelings can't be bought by money.

 

actually it can and it is! indirectly! the human brain is imprintable, and feelings are imprinted! and how do you imprint those feelings??? by spending time with the girl...through DATING! (or "ligaw" if you are the old-fashioned type)

 

dates cost money...you give gifts, take them out to dinner and movie...and so on! All to imprint on the girl that you are capable of providing for her! Basically, dating is not merely getting to know each other, but it is to impress the girl on what your resources are and what you are capable of giving her! (which fundamentally is to be able to provide for her and the children she will have with you)

 

animals, who don't have the same brain capacity as humans do this! and they do it by instinct! as I've said, money is the medium for human resources! in animals, the money used by human males is equivalent to the ability to hunt for food, or fend of predators or competing males and so on! this is the resources(money) the male uses to buy the "feelings" of a female.

 

with all things being equal(kind, caring, funny), how will a girl be "in" to you, when you spend, say an average of 1hr a day, while your competitor, with more money than you is able to spend 1/5 of the day?

 

do not make the mistake of defining money as per its monetary value alone (that is what the communists want, the ignorance they propagate, placing "feelings" above money), but rather define it as the medium that represents a man's ability within human society! the money you earn is the measure of your worth in society! and a woman who understands this fact, and "loves" you for your money, does so because she "loves" you for your ability to succeed in life, ensuring her survival as well as her children with you! no feeling can be more real or more significant!

Edited February 26, 2010 by Rearden

[Guest megalodon]

actually it can and it is! indirectly! the human brain is imprintable, and feelings are imprinted! and how do you imprint those feelings??? by spending time with the girl...through DATING! (or "ligaw" if you are the old-fashioned type)

 

dates cost money...you give gifts, take them out to dinner and movie...and so on! All to imprint on the girl that you are capable of providing for her! Basically, dating is not merely getting to know each other, but it is to impress the girl on what your resources are and what you are capable of giving her! (which fundamentally is to be able to provide for her and the children she will have with you)

 

animals, who don't have the same brain capacity as humans do this! and they do it by instinct! as I've said, money is the medium for human resources! in animals, the money used by human males is equivalent to the ability to hunt for food, or fend of predators or competing males and so on! this is the resources(money) the male uses to buy the "feelings" of a female.

 

with all things being equal(kind, caring, funny), how will a girl be "in" to you, when you spend, say an average of 1hr a day, while your competitor, with more money than you is able to spend 1/5 of the day?

 

do not make the mistake of defining money as per its monetary value alone (that is what the communists want, the ignorance they propagate, placing "feelings" above money), but rather define it as the medium that represents a man's ability within human society! the money you earn is the measure of your worth in society! and a woman who understands this fact, and "loves" you for your money, does so because she "loves" you for your ability to succeed in life, ensuring her survival as well as her children with you! no feeling can be more real or more significant!

With all due respect to MPAs, GROs and the like, most of them will consider the financial wherewithal of a man before going into a relationship with him but if you're gonna use money, in general, as an avenue to, as you said, buy the feelings of a girl, then I'd say you're dead wrong. Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

[slimboy]

With all due respect to MPAs, GROs and the like, most of them will consider the financial wherewithal of a man before going into a relationship with him but if you're gonna use money, in general, as an avenue to, as you said, buy the feelings of a girl, then I'd say you're dead wrong. Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

 

I agree with you bro cause I have experienced it myself. Providing the girl financial support , decent shelter , branded clothes and accessories will not guaranttee that you win her love for you. I did split with this girl and was able to get back some amount she loaned which I guess came from another suitor . I consider it a blessing in disguise cause if I still have the relartionship with her , I may now have a broken family.. So not get into further trouble pa one night stand na lang...

[Rearden]

With all due respect to MPAs, GROs and the like, most of them will consider the financial wherewithal of a man before going into a relationship with him but if you're gonna use money, in general, as an avenue to, as you said, buy the feelings of a girl, then I'd say you're dead wrong. Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

 

sir, did i not give the definition of "money" in my explanation???

 

of course, I did not use it in general, i used it in a specific way didn't I??? Please, use the definition I have given in order to understand the logic of the statements!

 

No, i did not say you use money to woo! (you are using the "monetary value alone" deinition)

I said you need money to woo! (I am using the "medium that represents man's ability" definition)

 

Woo someone born with a silverspoon? yes, you need money! (again, defined as the medium that represents man's ability)

 

imagine this...using the premise I have given before, 2 men, both kind, caring, funny, and so on...

Man #1 is 20 year old Manny Villar, who is still struggling to make it in the world

Man #2 is 30 year old Manny Villar, who is already a success

...who do you think will win the "feelings" of Cynthia?

 

but wait, do you know the Villar's personally? are you really sure that it was Manny who wooed Cynthia and not the otherway around? in that scenario, it was Cynthia (the one with the money) who wooed the Tondo boy Manny!

 

wit, charms, good-looks? those are all abilities, which a man can use to succeed in society! and a successful man is a rich man! it is just a matter of time before the boy becomes a man!

 

Imagine, 2 Casanovas...

Casanova # 1 - who works as an ordinary file and rank employee

Casanova # 2 - a successful businessman

...who would win???

 

As I've said, all things being equal, which means both are witty, charming and good-looking! The moneyed man wins because he has more ability!

 

The only way the penniless casanova wins a girl is if she has no option, meaning there was no one else vying for her affection!

[Rearden]

I agree with you bro cause I have experienced it myself. Providing the girl financial support , decent shelter , branded clothes and accessories will not guaranttee that you win her love for you. I did split with this girl and was able to get back some amount she loaned which I guess came from another suitor . I consider it a blessing in disguise cause if I still have the relartionship with her , I may now have a broken family.. So not get into further trouble pa one night stand na lang...

 

no offense sir! i would just like to ask...

 

1. did you have a competitor when you were vying for this girl's affection?

2. you gave her decent shelter? does that mean she was yours? (even if for a little while)

3. are you sure that she was capable of a long term monogamous relationship? maybe she doesn't even realize that she prefers serial monogamy, or polyandry!

4. are you sure, your definition of love is the same with the girl?

5. maybe the one night stands are all she wants from a man, you have already won her love. should she change for you? why should she change for you?

[Guest megalodon]

sir, did i not give the definition of "money" in my explanation???Didn't you say that money is the worth of a man in society?

 

of course, I did not use it in general, i used it in a specific way didn't I??? Please, use the definition I have given in order to understand the logic of the statements!-In your definition, money is what makes a man

 

No, i did not say you use money to woo! (you are using the "monetary value alone" deinition)

I said you need money to woo! (I am using the "medium that represents man's ability" definition)

 

Woo someone born with a silverspoon? yes, you need money! (again, defined as the medium that represents man's ability)-As I said, you can't fight money with money when you're trying to win the affection of someone who was born with it.

 

imagine this...using the premise I have given before, 2 men, both kind, caring, funny, and so on...

Man #1 is 20 year old Manny Villar, who is still struggling to make it in the world

Man #2 is 30 year old Manny Villar, who is already a success

...who do you think will win the "feelings" of Cynthia?-I wouldn't know but what I know is Manny Villar was a pauper compared to Cynthia when they met.

 

but wait, do you know the Villar's personally? are you really sure that it was Manny who wooed Cynthia and not the otherway around? in that scenario, it was Cynthia (the one with the money) who wooed the Tondo boy Manny!-I don't know them personally

 

wit, charms, good-looks? those are all abilities, which a man can use to succeed in society! and a successful man is a rich man! it is just a matter of time before the boy becomes a man!

 

Imagine, 2 Casanovas...

Casanova # 1 - who works as an ordinary file and rank employee

Casanova # 2 - a successful businessman

...who would win???Depends on who is the smoother operator.

 

As I've said, all things being equal, which means both are witty, charming and good-looking! The moneyed man wins because he has more ability!-ability in what?

 

The only way the penniless casanova wins a girl is if she has no option, meaning there was no one else vying for her affection!-This is your opinion.

Edited February 26, 2010 by megalodon

[Rearden]

Didn't you say that money is the worth of a man in society?

 

no i didn't...please read!

as I've said, money is the medium for human resources!

 

-In your definition, money is what makes a man

 

no, please read the above quote!

 

As I said, you can't fight money with money when you're trying to win the affection of someone who was born with it.

 

no you didn't! please read your statements again! here it is...

 

Do you think you can use money as a weapon in wooing someone who was born with a silver spoon in her mouth? I don't think so. I'll give you an example. Manny Villar. He wasn't as well-heeled then when he wooed his would be wife who was, in fact, richer than him a thousand fold. It's a combination of factors and money is just one of them and not a major factor. Sometimes, money isn't even a factor. Cassanovas use their wit, charm and good-looks (if they have) to get girls. So there.

 

maybe you should rephrase your statements to make it clearer! let's say use "tool" instead of "weapon"...and so on

or if you are going to use the word "weapon", then use it consistently instead of changing from "weapon" to "factor"

 

 

-I wouldn't know but what I know is Manny Villar was a pauper compared to Cynthia when they met.

 

couldn't or wouldn't you venture a guess? you were quick to assume on the relationship of the Villars. Isn't it easier since I've provided you a set of DATA to make an informed decision?

let's not use the Villars anymore as an example, replace Manny and Cynthia with random woman and random man#1 and #2, for objectivity's sake!

 

 

-I don't know them personally

 

then you don't really know if money played a part or not? as you have asserted that it didn't

1. it could have been that Cynthia used her money to win Manny's affection! (Manny then chooses Cynthia because it will guarantee his success in life)

2. it could have been that Manny's abilities (e.g. intelligence, ergo Cynthia makes the assumption that future Manny will be a successful businessman) is what won Cynthia's affection!

 

Depends on who is the smoother operator.

Again, all things being equal, means both are smooth operators! the only difference is one is rich, the other is poor!

 

-ability in what?

Ability to succeed in life! It could be intelligence (becomes a successful professional), or shrewdness or interpersonal skills (becomes a successful businessman), or ability in sports (becomes a professional athlete), all of which gives a man an advantage that is rewarded by money! Ergo making money the medium that represents ability, the more ability, the more money! That is the Capitalist system! That is the world we live in!

 

-This is your opinion.

No, it is nature, not just human nature, but nature in general! Although sometimes it happens, they are anomalies, making them statistically insignificant! It is worthless to give statistically insignificant anomalies any value in life! Do you put your hopes on winning the lotto? or winning big in casinos?

 

Why is it that you made the assumption that it is feelings and not money (medium for human ability) as important? Is it because you were taught that mantra since childhood?

 

Are you married sir? have a girlfriend/s? Would your partner have noticed you if you were broke? and wooed them using your wit, charm, and good looks alone? Meaning, no money for dates, no money for gifts, have to work 2 or 3 jobs just to survive?

 

Sir, money gives you the luxury (of time) to woo a girl! Money gives you the luxury (of health) to be a hot-blooded healthy male, by being able to afford the right sustenance! Money gives you the luxury to have children and ensure their success in life!

 

...and you say money is not important???

 

Feelings are merely by-products of all the luxury your money have afforded you and your loved ones!

[Rearden]

look at it this way sir megalodon...

 

Manny Villar may have been poor, but he spent all his time and energy to earning money! That small amount of money he earned, sent him to school, and gave him access to Cynthia, who recognizing Manny's ability, chooses him over others, and Manny recognizing Cynthia's background takes her as a wife, ensuring their mutual success in life!

 

now imagine the same, but instead of being in a Capitalist society, we lived in a Communist society...(with what we know of the history of Communist societies, like China and Russia, and the death toll of those societies) Manny would most likely have died young out of hunger, or may not even have been born, or being a son of poor parents, would have been poor all his life working in a field!

 

@topic

MPAs/PSPs/GROs, being in the situation that they are, are more basic, than non-MPAs/PSPs/GROs who can afford the luxury of "feelings", but both types are fundamentally the same! it is just politically incorrect to say it out loud, because majority of our society do not understand that money is the medium used to measure a man's ability, and instead were indoctrinated with the "money as the root of all evil" mantra!

[Guest megalodon]

As I said, Villar may have used factors other than money such as charm, wit, humor, etc. Money is just one of the considerations a girl will look into when it comes to choosing a guy.

 

I can't imagine myself living in a communist country. The fact is the Nacionalista Party standard bearer is a billionaire.

 

@topic

MPAs/PSPs/GROs, being in the situation that they are, are more basic, than non-MPAs/PSPs/GROs who can afford the luxury of "feelings", but both types are fundamentally the same! it is just politically incorrect to say it out loud, because majority of our society do not understand that money is the medium used to measure a man's ability, and instead were indoctrinated with the "money as the root of all evil" mantra!-Can you give me the source of this statement? That money is the medium used to measure a man's ability? Coz frankly I find this statement idiotic. That doesn't necessarily mean that a man couldn't make a girl fall for him since he's lacking in finances.

Edited February 26, 2010 by megalodon

[btdeadlock]

I don't think you can really generalize. It really depends on what needs of a girl needs to be filled at the moment, be it financial, emotional, sexual, etc.

[Intuition]

i pretty much agree with Rearden...

 

i noticed that arguments erupt because a lot of ppl cant seem to be able to define "money" as a measure of one's abilities.... but instead, typically define it as "money - something that can BUY something."

 

your wit, humor, skills, looks, etc. hard as it may to believe... actually translate to 'money.' thats what Rearden was saying for quite a few posts now.