Falling For A Therapist - Merged Thread

[Mistress Mia]

I respect your opinion but I disagree because I met a single mom thera and currently been spending time with both of them during weekends. And free time we get after work days, she is going to stop from working as a thera, she has much respect for me like I have for her. I talked to her and made her realize that I'm sincere with her, and we're sharing things more than just a guest and thera now. I trust her and she does the same for me. She and I made it a point to talk things over, esp. now that we've decided to live together and later on have her son live with us. He is studying and hopefully when he stays with us, we'll be complete and be a family.... never too late....

You disagree thar you are supporting her or you agree that she agreed that she didn't need your support and can stand by herself? Hence, I am not generalizing all.

 

And where did you meet her? In a place where men's usual pleasure goes? And did lastly, did you go there to save a single mom thera and be your partner or just to jack off but apparently, you found a woman you think is worth your love?

 

See and understand each and every word I just said but I respect your opinion. God bless.

[toruk makto]

 

Ang ibig kong sabihin mas magiging emotionally scarring ito sa babae kesa sa lalake.

 

Yung lalake, me regular day job naman siguro. Me disenteng bahay. Otherwise papano nya masusustentohan bisyo na ganito. Pag niloko sya ng babae, ok his heart may be broken and all that, pero mas madali gumaling yung pride.

 

Eh yung babae? Ganyan na nga trabaho nya, lolokohin pa sya ng lalake. Ano pa matitira ngayon sa kanya? The job alone can be emotionally taxing. Talagang matinding depression kakalabasan nyan

 

your premise is wrong because the values of both parties are different. the GM values truth, loyalty and love. money is certainly not at the top. the thera values money and certainly has little inkling about truth, loyalty etc. when the relationship falls apart the guy has lost more of what is important to him and the thera has lost little but benefited a lot materially. this is a generalization yes but i think is true.

[terry bolea]

sa mga posts ni Mia agree ako, pero may tanong ako sa inyo na gusto kong malinawan. may isa akong gustong thera dati na gusto kong tulungan. pwede ko naman gawin yung sinasabi ng iba na ibahay o kaya suportahan. pero sa akin ayoko gawin yon kasi parang binili mo sa tindahan yung tao ang dating ng gaanong setup kaya hindi ako naniniwala sa mga GM na binahay si ganito dahil parang binili nila pagkatao nung thera. ang mangyayari pa noon dahil sila ang bumahay. sila ang may kontrol at walang pwedeng gawin yung thera para makasagot pabalik dahil yung GM ang may kontrol sa kanya.

 

yung sa akin gusto ko may equal amount of respect and love for each other. gusto ko rin na tulungan niya sarili niya na hindi puro aasa sa akin. nag suggest ako sa kanya na hindi na niya kailangan magtrabaho sa spa at refer ko siya sa friend kong may business. entry level yung work pero good pay naman with full benefits at sinabihan ko yung friend ko tungkol sa kanya at tatanggapin naman daw niya mabigay lang siya ng CV. pero sa pagka dismaya ko. hindi man siya nagbigay ng CV o kaya nagtext sa friend ko na mag-aapply. ilang beses ko siya tinanong kung interesado siya, sabi niya oo pero wala naman ginawang galaw. hindi ko naman business yung papasukan niya, sa friend ko yon kaya hindi ko siya susumbatan tungkol sa utang na loob dahil hindi naman ako ganon. hindi naman pera yung inalok ko, tulong na totoo kasi tinitignan ko kung ano yung motivation niya at kung may pangarap siya.

 

nawalan ako ng gana at hindi ko na siya kinausap mula noon. kaya ang tanong ko sayo Mia, sabi mo kasi na wala silang ibang makuhang work kundi yan, tama ka doon sa sinabi mo pero kung may referral ka maipapasok mo yung tao sa isang corporate setting. pero ano naman masasabi mo dito sa taong ito na binigyan mo na ng referral at pagkakataon na sigurado pero ayaw naman pala.

 

present status niya andyan pa rin sa spa. marami na ring nalipatan pero puro spa pa rin ang work.

 

bakit kaya hindi siya pumayag doon sa offer ko na tulong? yung friend kong may business, babae hindi lalake. maganda sana kung may maisasagot kayo ni Sitti tungkol dito.

 

doon sa post ni toruk makto. yung truth, loyalty at love maliit kung compare mo sa Dignidad. yung dignidad ng thera nawawala at nababawas bawat 1 oras kasama ang iba't-ibang guest. kahit magkalabuan kayo. sa bandang huli kahit yung mga material na bagay na sinasabi mong nakamit nung thera at pera nawala sa GM madaling palitan at kitain kahit nga dignidad ng GM intact. pero yung Dignidad at respeto sa sarili ng thera ubos na at walang matitira kaya yon pa rin mananaig.

[Mistress Mia]

sa mga posts ni Mia agree ako, pero may tanong ako sa inyo na gusto kong malinawan. may isa akong gustong thera dati na gusto kong tulungan. pwede ko naman gawin yung sinasabi ng iba na ibahay o kaya suportahan. pero sa akin ayoko gawin yon kasi parang binili mo sa tindahan yung tao ang dating ng gaanong setup kaya hindi ako naniniwala sa mga GM na binahay si ganito dahil parang binili nila pagkatao nung thera. ang mangyayari pa noon dahil sila ang bumahay. sila ang may kontrol at walang pwedeng gawin yung thera para makasagot pabalik dahil yung GM ang may kontrol sa kanya.

 

yung sa akin gusto ko may equal amount of respect and love for each other. gusto ko rin na tulungan niya sarili niya na hindi puro aasa sa akin. nag suggest ako sa kanya na hindi na niya kailangan magtrabaho sa spa at refer ko siya sa friend kong may business. entry level yung work pero good pay naman with full benefits at sinabihan ko yung friend ko tungkol sa kanya at tatanggapin naman daw niya mabigay lang siya ng CV. pero sa pagka dismaya ko. hindi man siya nagbigay ng CV o kaya nagtext sa friend ko na mag-aapply. ilang beses ko siya tinanong kung interesado siya, sabi niya oo pero wala naman ginawang galaw. hindi ko naman business yung papasukan niya, sa friend ko yon kaya hindi ko siya susumbatan tungkol sa utang na loob dahil hindi naman ako ganon. hindi naman pera yung inalok ko, tulong na totoo kasi tinitignan ko kung ano yung motivation niya at kung may pangarap siya.

 

nawalan ako ng gana at hindi ko na siya kinausap mula noon. kaya ang tanong ko sayo Mia, sabi mo kasi na wala silang ibang makuhang work kundi yan, tama ka doon sa sinabi mo pero kung may referral ka maipapasok mo yung tao sa isang corporate setting. pero ano naman masasabi mo dito sa taong ito na binigyan mo na ng referral at pagkakataon na sigurado pero ayaw naman pala.

 

present status niya andyan pa rin sa spa. marami na ring nalipatan pero puro spa pa rin ang work.

 

bakit kaya hindi siya pumayag doon sa offer ko na tulong? yung friend kong may business, babae hindi lalake. maganda sana kung may maisasagot kayo ni Sitti tungkol dito.

 

doon sa post ni toruk makto. yung truth, loyalty at love maliit kung compare mo sa Dignidad. yung dignidad ng thera nawawala at nababawas bawat 1 oras kasama ang iba't-ibang guest. kahit magkalabuan kayo. sa bandang huli kahit yung mga material na bagay na sinasabi mong nakamit nung thera at pera nawala sa GM madaling palitan at kitain kahit nga dignidad ng GM intact. pero yung Dignidad at respeto sa sarili ng thera ubos na at walang matitira kaya yon pa rin mananaig.

Thanks for sharing this and I am so proud of you for making the best move. For trying... I posted much details and people just saw the negativity about men being used as an ultimate cash cow. But as you can see, before judging women which perhaps you already saw, my very first reply on this thread states that we, women rather tend to be used and paid to support ourselves and family rather than to be used and get nothing at all apart from the heart break and lies of course.

 

People keep on talking and judging without even experiencing it. Men keep on talking without backreading and realizing that infidelity usually comes from men and not women. Am I hitting an ego here? Don't be because this is reality. If not, why would men be in a spa/club? If not, why there are a lot of married man or man in a relationship hiding, doing the ninja moves and all? No men can make me change my perception because I have personally seen hundreds and thousands of men cheating, using and abusing women whether it is in this industry or not.

 

In this industry, I will tell this over and over again, men are being used and so as women. No one have the rights to complain about being used or what because taking a therapist out of this industry does not make them exempted for being used by men. Those that have sponsors whether they are inlove or not, they are still used. Sponsors are still benefiting something and sorry again for the term but I know you know this, a personal human sex doll, a gf and a companion. Mas mura ang magbahay kaysa magbayad ng 3-5k every walk/atw they get. If you guys don't needed those things, then you wouldn't be making her yours. Then again, sorry for being blunt but women's service cannot be paid by just your gratitude and your money are usually paid by the service that you are getting. Either way, kahit magbahay or mag gf kayo ng therapist, there is no stopping you or any relationship that can bind you from cheating and using another therapist. Correct?

 

Lastly, I must commend you for your bravery and sincerity but you know the answer to this question already. You are asking me and the whole people that could be reading this an obvious question.

 

I already said this on my previous reply. Kahit bigyan mo ng pera yan pang negosyo. If she cannot manage it, it will be useless. This is also the same as giving her a job she don't know anything about or that does not fit her interest, it's useless.

 

It's literally obvious that she's not interested with the offer or she could be but would hate to disappoint you if she ended up commiting a mistake.

 

People know what they are capable of dear. And she knows to herself if she is fit for the job or probably, she's not used to being forced to go to work everyday to earn money.

 

That's the usual dilema of a Therapist. I have been managing a spa and my feedback is, ladies here would only go to work if they want to. Therapists will only report for work when they have no money and when they have enough money for themselves to feed them and their family for a few days. Unlike a typical employee, no one can enforce them to work when they don't want to. Termination isn't that strict and all.

 

Thus, with everything that I just said, no one can help her but herself. The best investment they can give is to get out of this industry with your help and do the best to improve themselves. The best investment is investing to oneself. You know what to do in this kind of situation. You know what she's just up to. You know what you needed to tell her.

 

One last thing, is she even willing to get out of this industry? If not, that should answer your question. Not everyone is entitled to a new life.

[terry bolea]

Thanks for sharing this and I am so proud of you for making the best move. For trying... I posted much details and people just saw the negativity about men being used as an ultimate cash cow. But as you can see, before judging women which perhaps you already saw, my very first reply on this thread states that we, women rather tend to be used and paid to support ourselves and family rather than to be used and get nothing at all apart from the heart break and lies of course.

 

People keep on talking and judging without even experiencing it. Men keep on talking without backreading and realizing that infidelity usually comes from men and not women. Am I hitting an ego here? Don't be because this is reality. If not, why would men be in a spa/club? If not, why there are a lot of married man or man in a relationship hiding, doing the ninja moves and all? No men can make me change my perception because I have personally seen hundreds and thousands of men cheating, using and abusing women whether it is in this industry or not.

 

In this industry, I will tell this over and over again, men are being used and so as women. No one have the rights to complain about being used or what because taking a therapist out of this industry does not make them exempted for being used by men. Those that have sponsors whether they are inlove or not, they are still used. Sponsors are still benefiting something and sorry again for the term but I know you know this, a personal human sex doll, a gf and a companion. Mas mura ang magbahay kaysa magbayad ng 3-5k every walk/atw they get. If you guys don't needed those things, then you wouldn't be making her yours. Then again, sorry for being blunt but women's service cannot be paid by just your gratitude and your money are usually paid by the service that you are getting. Either way, kahit magbahay or mag gf kayo ng therapist, there is no stopping you or any relationship that can bind you from cheating and using another therapist. Correct?

 

Lastly, I must commend you for your bravery and sincerity but you know the answer to this question already. You are asking me and the whole people that could be reading this an obvious question.

 

I already said this on my previous reply. Kahit bigyan mo ng pera yan pang negosyo. If she cannot manage it, it will be useless. This is also the same as giving her a job she don't know anything about or that does not fit her interest, it's useless.

 

It's literally obvious that she's not interested with the offer or she could be but would hate to disappoint you if she ended up commiting a mistake.

 

People know what they are capable of dear. And she knows to herself if she is fit for the job or probably, she's not used to being forced to go to work everyday to earn money.

 

That's the usual dilema of a Therapist. I have been managing a spa and my feedback is, ladies here would only go to work if they want to. Therapists will only report for work when they have no money and when they have enough money for themselves to feed them and their family for a few days. Unlike a typical employee, no one can enforce them to work when they don't want to. Termination isn't that strict and all.

 

Thus, with everything that I just said, no one can help her but herself. The best investment they can give is to get out of this industry with your help and do the best to improve themselves. The best investment is investing to oneself. You know what to do in this kind of situation. You know what she's just up to. You know what you needed to tell her.

 

One last thing, is she even willing to get out of this industry? If not, that should answer your question. Not everyone is entitled to a new life.

 

Good morning.

 

marunong naman ako magbasa ng mga kilos. kaya binigyan ko ng mga 1 week at pinagmasdan kung ano gagawin niya. yung work naman na ibibigay sa kanya kaya niyang gawin. tinignan yung qualification niya kung pwede sa work at pwede naman. at may experience naman siya doon sa work dahil ginawa na na niya sa spa. receptionist work yon na mataas ang pay ng kaunti sa spa. 2 dahilan lang naisip ko na baka hindi nga talaga siya interesado o sanay na siya sa spa at yon lang ang iniisip niyang kayang gawin na work. in fairness naman sa kanya, hindi siya yung tipong papasok lang kung feel niya tulad ng sinasabi mong ibang thera. pumapasok diligently. baka pwede ring may self-esteem issue na hindi confident sa sarili niya. hindi kasi nakatapos ng pag-aaral.

 

anyway kinwento ko lang kasi i think different case siya sa iba in some ways. i dont believe na lahat naman ng thera ganyan magisip tulad nung kilala ko it could be na i asked a person na super comfortable na sa spa na ayaw nang umalis sa surroundings niyang ganyan. i feel sad for her though, could have helped her. at to be honest wala akong ineexpect anything in return. ok na yung ty niya sa akin. pero ayaw naman pala niya. i am concerned what will her future be. sa ganyang industriya maikli ang life span para sa isang babae. anyway, salamat sa input at least may ibang point of view akong natutunan.

[Edmund Dantes]

 

your premise is wrong because the values of both parties are different. the GM values truth, loyalty and love. money is certainly not at the top. the thera values money and certainly has little inkling about truth, loyalty etc. when the relationship falls apart the guy has lost more of what is important to him and the thera has lost little but benefited a lot materially. this is a generalization yes but i think is true.

 

This generalization from my perspective is also wrong. Truth? Loyalty? Come on! dami daming nagpupunta sa MP na me asawa kaya. Nagsisinungaling sa mga babaeng binigyan nila ng pangalan nila. Ayan o, dami daming confession dito na pumupunta sila sa ganito para mahanap yung di nila nahahanap sa relasyon nila. Lets face it, maraming palikero na pumupunta sa ganitong lugar. Ang dahilan nila para pumunta dyan, primarily para magparaos, hindi para maghanap ng true love.

 

Yung babae ang dahilan kung bakit pumupunta dito ay pera. Ito alam nilang paraan na kikita sila. Madaming mga babae nasisira buhay sa trabahong ito. Syempre medyo kelangan lunukin ng konti respeto sa sarili para magawa nila trabaho nila. Tibayan konti sikmura. Emotionally taxing kaya yan sa kanila. Tapos sasamahan mo pa ng sugat mula sa isang relasyon na hindi naman magiging successful, O pano na yun babae? hindi kaya lalo lang sya manliit sa sarili nya?

 

Kaya nga, lagi ko sinasabi na ang babaeng pumapasok sa ganitong trabaho ay me responsibilidad na gumawa paraan alisin sarili nya dito. At huwag umasa mula sa utang na loob ng isang prince charming. Kasi mamaya si Prince Charming eh halimaw pala. Tapos di makalasan kasi walang ibang paraan para suportahan sarili. At kung makalasan man, balik lang ulit sa dating trabaho

[george441]

I have a gf in kremlin at the moment. Going on 2 months na kami. I am enjoying our moments together and try not to overthink things. Halos kalive in ko na siya. I am very surprise with our relationship...hindi siya reliant sa akin. Hindi siya humihingi ng pera, ayaw niya gastusan ko siya. Sa food, gusto niya sa mura lang kami kakain para hindi sayang ang pera. I am becoming a simple person because of her which is good. Parang lumalabas pa nga mas pokpok pa ugali ng mga ex gf ko kaysa sa kanya...na galing pa sa magagandang pamilya. Alot of patience is needed in understanding her situation. Kaya I try to keep an open mind and not to think so much and enjoy life as it is. So far so good.

[toruk makto]

I have a gf in kremlin at the moment. Going on 2 months na kami. I am enjoying our moments together and try not to overthink things. Halos kalive in ko na siya. I am very surprise with our relationship...hindi siya reliant sa akin. Hindi siya humihingi ng pera, ayaw niya gastusan ko siya. Sa food, gusto niya sa mura lang kami kakain para hindi sayang ang pera. I am becoming a simple person because of her which is good. Parang lumalabas pa nga mas pokpok pa ugali ng mga ex gf ko kaysa sa kanya...na galing pa sa magagandang pamilya. Alot of patience is needed in understanding her situation. Kaya I try to keep an open mind and not to think so much and enjoy life as it is. So far so good.

 

pinapapasok klang nya. haha. there is some truth to this, just dont brush it away. these women are good at what they do.

[little_boy]

Not a professional but here's my opinion...nothing is ever simple. This industry is neither black nor white. It is a lot of gray areas. It's hard to generalize all GMs and theras. But definitely most generalizations do apply. In regards of a GM falling for a thera and vice versa, well I don't think either parties planned for it to happen. It's love! You never know when it hits you. It may be at a bar, a club, restaurant, party, school, work place, coffee shop, church, mall, park, and at a spa/mp.

I'm sure most guys would not want to get into a relationship (the take home to meet the parents kind) with a woman whose job is to attend to the sexual pleasures of men. It could be for several reasons such as: she's a dirty whore in his eyes making her beneath him (classism); living totally different lives and educational attainment (classism again), she's not good enough to introduce to the parents. If you notice, it all has to do with classism. Basically, what Mia said is true. Most theras are from poor backgrounds and were brought up with different values and decorum. Yung sinasabing "ugaling squatter" may apply to some here. This alone should be reason for you not to get into a relationship with anyone if you have nothing in common and live different lives. I'm sure in your circle of friends, you hangout with people who are close to your status in society or class. May it be being from the same village, work area, university, etc. Baka nga yung visits mo sa MPs and Spa are the only place you have contact with women of lower class (they wouldn't be working there if they had financial resources). But let's say you still fell in love with her because of the care and attention she gives you that fills a hole inside you? All I can say is, I wish you the best of luck in making your relationship work. Maybe you do have somethings in common and share a lot of similarities, that's great. Gives you something to work around.

It's also true that a lot of these women will use men that fall in love for them. Pineperahan na. No different from other women who scam foreigners to give them money. This has nothing to do with being a thera. This is about a woman having financial needs and thinks of devious ways to get the money. Don't get me wrong, some basically marry Americans or other foreigners even without loving them for exchange of financial security. That's ok. Mutual relationship and understanding kung saan parehas nakikinabang sa arrangement. What you should be aware about are those that take as much as they can from you and then disappear.

Now, let's say the thera and the gm are both in love with each other. As in yung totoong may feelings. I think what matters is acceptance and proper planning of where they're headed to as a couple. I agree with Mia, that the guy has to be able to financially support her. But there has to be effort from the girl as well if she really wants to change her life. If the guy agrees to support her needs but asks her to stop her current work, she has to. But if the guy can't afford to support her needs, then don't dream she'll leave the industry to be with you because of "love".

[temurlenk]

Not a professional but here's my opinion...nothing is ever simple. This industry is neither black nor white. It is a lot of gray areas. It's hard to generalize all GMs and theras. But definitely most generalizations do apply. In regards of a GM falling for a thera and vice versa, well I don't think either parties planned for it to happen. It's love! You never know when it hits you. It may be at a bar, a club, restaurant, party, school, work place, coffee shop, church, mall, park, and at a spa/mp.

 

I'm sure most guys would not want to get into a relationship (the take home to meet the parents kind) with a woman whose job is to attend to the sexual pleasures of men. It could be for several reasons such as: she's a dirty whore in his eyes making her beneath him (classism); living totally different lives and educational attainment (classism again), she's not good enough to introduce to the parents. If you notice, it all has to do with classism. Basically, what Mia said is true. Most theras are from poor backgrounds and were brought up with different values and decorum. Yung sinasabing "ugaling squatter" may apply to some here. This alone should be reason for you not to get into a relationship with anyone if you have nothing in common and live different lives. I'm sure in your circle of friends, you hangout with people who are close to your status in society or class. May it be being from the same village, work area, university, etc. Baka nga yung visits mo sa MPs and Spa are the only place you have contact with women of lower class (they wouldn't be working there if they had financial resources). But let's say you still fell in love with her because of the care and attention she gives you that fills a hole inside you? All I can say is, I wish you the best of luck in making your relationship work. Maybe you do have somethings in common and share a lot of similarities, that's great. Gives you something to work around.

 

It's also true that a lot of these women will use men that fall in love for them. Pineperahan na. No different from other women who scam foreigners to give them money. This has nothing to do with being a thera. This is about a woman having financial needs and thinks of devious ways to get the money. Don't get me wrong, some basically marry Americans or other foreigners even without loving them for exchange of financial security. That's ok. Mutual relationship and understanding kung saan parehas nakikinabang sa arrangement. What you should be aware about are those that take as much as they can from you and then disappear.

 

Now, let's say the thera and the gm are both in love with each other. As in yung totoong may feelings. I think what matters is acceptance and proper planning of where they're headed to as a couple. I agree with Mia, that the guy has to be able to financially support her. But there has to be effort from the girl as well if she really wants to change her life. If the guy agrees to support her needs but asks her to stop her current work, she has to. But if the guy can't afford to support her needs, then don't dream she'll leave the industry to be with you because of "love".

 

I agree with the above statement. But let me put my two cents in. These are the same issues being experienced by workers of the same trade here in Malaysia as well. Many of these gilrs from Pinas, Thailand, Malasyia, China, Vietnam etc who are staving off poverty in their own countries are across SEA and beyond, working as theras, mpa, gros etc not because they have no choice but because malaki naman talaga ang sweldo, so much so na ung iba sa kanila na nakausap ko MILLIONs na ang naiipon because of additional "gifts" from clients na HINDING HINDI nila kikitain kahit maging manager pa sila ng isang magandang company. For this reason alone malabong ipagpalit nila ang kanilang kita sa dinginad or LOVE for a certain individual na hindi nama nila kaano ano. They are willing to lose their dignity for a huge amount of cash not for themselves but for the family they left behind to give them the opportunity to have a better life- a life na hindi nila na experience nung lumalaki sila.

 

And mind you... many of these girls are educated and UNIVERSITY GRADUATES na nakapagtrabaho na sa ibat ibang corporations, pero sa liit ng sweldo at perhaps hindi rin ganun kataas ang moral values nila (tabitabi po), namasukan sila sa club. Most of them are young but divorced ,or single parent na mataas ang pangarap para sa pamilya or may asawang hindi maasahan... and I don't blame them.. kahit nga bagong graduates ng college these days walang makuhang trabaho, trabahong malaki sweldo pa (which is what these girls are looking for).

 

Ngayon... as for clients falling in love and or eventually having a serious relationship with these girls sana iwasan nila but I wouldn't say it's impossible either because I've seen it happen. The catch is, in my opinion, dapat KAYA mo palitan ung kinikita nila sa club kung gusto mo sila huminto, OR, hayaan mo muna sila magipon pa ng masmalaki para makatulong muna sila sa pamilya nila AT sayo kung hindi naman ganun kalaki kita mo pero willing naman ung girl huminto para sayo in the future (patience is the key here). For me, these are the best options na MAS kaya nilang tanggapin simply because pera ang issue hindi acceptance or love or diginity or any of that sh*t.

 

These girls are not ashamed of what they do for a living and they don't care- pera lang talaga ang pinaguusapan dito. If for example naka tyempo ka ng girl na HINDI issue sa kanya ang pera, PWES maswerte ka at masmadali mo sya maconvince umalis sa trabaho na yan for lesser reasons like LOVE or saving her diginty.

 

Bottomline is... kung balak ng GM pumasok sa ganyang relationship it will do him good knowing the facts and not just assume na papayag ang girl ipagpalit ang kita nya for her dignity or pagmamahal sa kanya because neither love or dignity will feed her family and put a roof above their heads at the same time. Just sayin' guys.

[Alex_Corvis]

They are willing to lose their dignity for a huge amount of cash not for themselves but for the family they left behind to give them the opportunity to have a better life- a life na hindi nila na experience nung lumalaki sila.

 

 

Word!

 

Kaya GMs, if you can't afford to take care of them financially, wag na mag demand na patigilin sila.

[flashman]

 

Word!

 

Kaya GMs, if you can't afford to take care of them financially, wag na mag demand na patigilin sila.

 

magastos magpatigil ng thera/gro sa trabaho nila. allowance niya, allowance ng family niya. school fees niya. patay kang bata ka. unless your earning millions a year. but expect na magiging half yan net. hehe.

[manananggol]

.. I revisited this section and to my pleasant surprise, tumaas na ang level ng interaction and discourse sa topic na ito immensely..quite similar to the "falling for a therapist" thread..

 

I love the posts of Ms Mia and Sitti..they are blunt, grounded and they speak from a place of truth since they live in THAT world..

 

I must come clean though...I was that guy/GM/spa goer who in the early years of the espa boom perhaps thought of myself as a "knight in shining armor' or maybe I was just suffering from the "pretty woman syndrome" or maybe I was just a very disturbed guy who was always horny......I'm not very rich but I'm doing OK so money was not an issue for me or for them...

 

I deliberately sought out all the top theras who were known for their beauty and sexiness, ...befriended them, gave them gifts, took them out etc...in so doing, I had a number of them as my girlfriends in the real sense of the word, behaved like real bf/gf, I met their families and friends outside the spa , and of course I gave them financial support to the extent that I can, and really engaged them outside the spa world...

 

I even had a baby with one, impregnated another,,,,

 

but at some point I looked inwards and looking back, I realized that maybe I made it my "sport" to bag all of the top theras , and I know that this was simply to feed my ego...to increase my trophy collection so to speak...

 

 

Did I really care for them?, I can unequivocably say yes... did they in turn really care for me?, only they can say for certain...

 

One thing is for sure though, none of those relationships worked out since we were all "damaged" and "broken" people and relationships cannot survive those challenges..

 

Peace:)

[MidKnight Train]

You disagree thar you are supporting her or you agree that she agreed that she didn't need your support and can stand by herself? Hence, I am not generalizing all.

 

And where did you meet her? In a place where men's usual pleasure goes? And did lastly, did you go there to save a single mom thera and be your partner or just to jack off but apparently, you found a woman you think is worth your love?

 

See and understand each and every word I just said but I respect your opinion. God bless.

I understand what you said and its simply not all are what you say they are.... its not a jack off, I guess that's your thinking but not all.... good luck!

[Mistress Mia]

I understand what you said and its simply not all are what you say they are.... its not a jack off, I guess that's your thinking but not all.... good luck!

So you went to an espa to find love. That's what we just need to know. No further discussion needed. Thank you so much for sharing your story. Goodluck and have a wonderful day!

[RED2018]

.. I revisited this section and to my pleasant surprise, tumaas na ang level ng interaction and discourse sa topic na ito immensely..quite similar to the "falling for a therapist" thread..

 

I love the posts of Ms Mia and Sitti..they are blunt, grounded and they speak from a place of truth since they live in THAT world..

 

I must come clean though...I was that guy/GM/spa goer who in the early years of the espa boom perhaps thought of myself as a "knight in shining armor' or maybe I was just suffering from the "pretty woman syndrome" or maybe I was just a very disturbed guy who was always horny......I'm not very rich but I'm doing OK so money was not an issue for me or for them...

 

I deliberately sought out all the top theras who were known for their beauty and sexiness, ...befriended them, gave them gifts, took them out etc...in so doing, I had a number of them as my girlfriends in the real sense of the word, behaved like real bf/gf, I met their families and friends outside the spa , and of course I gave them financial support to the extent that I can, and really engaged them outside the spa world...

 

I even had a baby with one, impregnated another,,,,

 

but at some point I looked inwards and looking back, I realized that maybe I made it my "sport" to bag all of the top theras , and I know that this was simply to feed my ego...to increase my trophy collection so to speak...

 

 

Did I really care for them?, I can unequivocably say yes... did they in turn really care for me?, only they can say for certain...

 

One thing is for sure though, none of those relationships worked out since we were all "damaged" and "broken" people and relationships cannot survive those challenges..

 

Peace:)

 

Very well said padre!!! Bottomline there is a redeeming value/lesson learned...

[JO7215]

Still cant get over her... Met her june last year... More than one year na kami magkakilala... Wala na sya sa mp... Pero she text or calls me pag kailangan nya pera... 12 days na wala sya text... Hmmmm...

[gilas1234]

Its definitely a possibility.

[little_boy]

Back reading the posts of Sitti and reading the first hand stories from Mia about theras falling in love with clients is heartbreaking as well. Yes, there are theras who were slutty and bitchy even before entering the trade. Most of these women come from the poorer sides of town. Iba yung kinalakihan nila. Ugaling squatter, gets niyo? All of them are in it for the money. Money for what purpose is where it varies. Some theras who are still in it after so long and are considered top theras or known are most probably addicted to the money and need it to support their lifestyle. Or like what Mia said, simply don't know how to handle the money they earn.

Some need the money to support and feed their siblings, parents, and/or children. Some of these girls were innocent and had no idea how to earn money but then a friend, ate, or tita comes along and tells them about a trade where they can make money. They are sucked into doing something they never planned on doing. These reluctant theras are the ones that suffer the most, in my opinion. They don't enjoy the deed but need the money and know they have to put up a show (GFE or PSE) to gain clients. Like sitti said, it sucks their dignity away one client at a time...

Another group of girls who need the money temporarily to finish school. Their parents can't afford to pay the tuition fees and they may have to stop studying but they don't want to. They somehow find themselves making quick and big money in this trade. the hours are flexible to fit around a student's schedule and they can come in and work only to get the amount they need. Most of these girls try to set limits to their services to maintain at least in their minds some dignity (no atw, no touch, etc).

It's sad and unbearable to think about. The dilemma is, if all men stopped going to spas and mps then these girls won't whore themselves. But they wouldn't make the money they need. I mean, GMs do you stop going to spas to show you're against the trade of using women or do you go to the spas to help these girls by giving them business? That's a good debate.

IMO, most men are cheating assholes who want to sleep with every hot girl they meet. Horny and lustful men will always be there, lonely and sad men as well, single and looking to have fun or relax, and of course the barkada looking to have a good time. (I think that covers the general clientele) This is a degrading job where most of the girls are in it out of force and not by free will.

So, if you must go to a spa. BE KIND. Tip accordingly, don't be rude, don't be forceful, don't be physically abusive. Don't degrade and abuse these girls any more than they are feeling. (Ibang usapan naman yung mga babae na halatang rude, at sasabihin niyo sa akin eh paano binayad ko etc etc)

[Mistress Mia]

Back reading the posts of Sitti and reading the first hand stories from Mia about theras falling in love with clients is heartbreaking as well. Yes, there are theras who were slutty and bitchy even before entering the trade. Most of these women come from the poorer sides of town. Iba yung kinalakihan nila. Ugaling squatter, gets niyo? All of them are in it for the money. Money for what purpose is where it varies. Some theras who are still in it after so long and are considered top theras or known are most probably addicted to the money and need it to support their lifestyle. Or like what Mia said, simply don't know how to handle the money they earn.

Some need the money to support and feed their siblings, parents, and/or children. Some of these girls were innocent and had no idea how to earn money but then a friend, ate, or tita comes along and tells them about a trade where they can make money. They are sucked into doing something they never planned on doing. These reluctant theras are the ones that suffer the most, in my opinion. They don't enjoy the deed but need the money and know they have to put up a show (GFE or PSE) to gain clients. Like sitti said, it sucks their dignity away one client at a time...

Another group of girls who need the money temporarily to finish school. Their parents can't afford to pay the tuition fees and they may have to stop studying but they don't want to. They somehow find themselves making quick and big money in this trade. the hours are flexible to fit around a student's schedule and they can come in and work only to get the amount they need. Most of these girls try to set limits to their services to maintain at least in their minds some dignity (no atw, no touch, etc).

It's sad and unbearable to think about. The dilemma is, if all men stopped going to spas and mps then these girls won't whore themselves. But they wouldn't make the money they need. I mean, GMs do you stop going to spas to show you're against the trade of using women or do you go to the spas to help these girls by giving them business? That's a good debate.

IMO, most men are cheating assholes who want to sleep with every hot girl they meet. Horny and lustful men will always be there, lonely and sad men as well, single and looking to have fun or relax, and of course the barkada looking to have a good time. (I think that covers the general clientele) This is a degrading job where most of the girls are in it out of force and not by free will.

So, if you must go to a spa. BE KIND. Tip accordingly, don't be rude, don't be forceful, don't be physically abusive. Don't degrade and abuse these girls any more than they are feeling. (Ibang usapan naman yung mga babae na halatang rude, at sasabihin niyo sa akin eh paano binayad ko etc etc)

I can only say two damn words, "thank you".

[little_boy]

I can only say two damn words, "thank you".

Putting into consideration everything I said, thinking about the possible backstory of a thera and why she is doing this kind of work, the sacrifice and fear of being found out by her family and friends, and the shame she feels for choosing this industry rather than working elsewhere. I can't help but think about that. They are so young and once innocent. They are someone's precious daughter, beloved sister, favorite cousin, best friend, bff, etc. In any other day, I can and may have passed them by in the mall. Doing regular things like grabbing a bite to eat, hanging out with friends, watching a movie, going to a concert, or simply hanging out. They are human beings with emotions. Even better, they are women.

 

They have a story. They too are suffering. Yes, I know not every girl is in the same situation. Some might say most are really slutty and low class girls who have no remorse and don't mind the work. They actually find it attractive and better than a regular job that pays less. Like Mia said, not all deserve or want a second chance to change. But I'm talking about the ones that never wanted to be here. The student, the naive probinsyana looking to help her family, the desperate single mother left alone and broken...

 

I read Sitti's story. It broke my heart. She fell in love with a GM who treated her so well. She hoped. She fell in love with someone who she thought would be her knight in shining armor. She enjoyed and appreciated being cared for by someone, to feel loved by someone and accepted for who she is... Then to be told "kung nakilala lang kita sa ibang lugar at hindi sa spa..." That is so brutal and painful. It breaks my heart. Kung mabasa mo ito sitti, I hope and pray you find a way out of this life. Sana makahanap ka ng paraan makaalis sa ganitong buhay at sana mahanap mo yung lalaki na iibigin ka ng totoo at tapat. Di ako nagtataka kung bakit maraming babae sa industriya na ito ay nagiging bato. Pagkatapos sa lahat ng naranasan nila at nakita nila...sino bang hindi magiging manhid?

 

Every one deserves a shot to a better life. Every person deserves to be treated properly. Every one should know that they are loved. I believe in love and hope. Please people, you make take away a person's pride, dignity, and morale. But never ever...NEVER take away someone's ability to hope. To hope for a better day, to hope for a better life, and to hope for a better future. You never know, maybe the only thing that person has left in their life is hope. Let us be better.

[bughaw1]

Still cant get over her... Met her june last year... More than one year na kami magkakilala... Wala na sya sa mp... Pero she text or calls me pag kailangan nya pera... 12 days na wala sya text... Hmmmm...

tatawag o magtetext din yan..pag kailangan ng pera. You have to break free sir.

[terry bolea]

kung may thera na manhid at bato, may GM din na manhid. Mia sinubukan ko ulit mag offer pero sa ibang thera na kilala ko na ng husto. hindi dahil may gusto ako sa kanya pero gusto ko siyang tulungan. may anak na siya at yon lang daw ang kanyang source of income.

 

same offer at tinignan ko kung gagawa siya ng paraan para ma contact yung friend ko. binigyan ko pa ng 2 weeks bago ko siya kausapin tungkol doon para hindi magmukhang nangungulit. 2 weeks nakalipas. wala pa rin.

 

naiisip ko na may pattern na nabubuo sa takbo ng pagiisip itong mga thera. one track mind ang kanilang isip. dahil andyan na sila sa trabahong yan, ang takbo ng mindset nila eh parang yan lang ang kaya nilang gawing trabaho.

 

pero kulang pa ang aking sample size para makagawa ng conclusion. susubukan ko na ialok ito sa 4 pa na thera na kilala ko sa ibat-ibang spa. totoo naman ang tulong ko at kung mag-aapply sila tatanggapin sila for the office work. pero naging experiment na rin sa akin dahil gusto ko malaman kung parehas ang takbo ng isip nila tungkol sa kagustuhan nila sa spa na lang sila magtatrabaho o gusto ba nila na may trabaho sila na marangal at maayos kesa yan.

 

magpopost na lang ulit ako pag nakuha ko na ang mga sagot ng mga aalukin ko.

[bughaw1]

May inofferan na rin ako dati ng trabaho. Ang sabi lang sa aken eh wag ako maawa. Ok na daw yung mpa sya dahil tamad sya. Easy money kasi. Pero sayang if my opportunity na magbagong buhay.

[Cap™]

kung may thera na manhid at bato, may GM din na manhid. Mia sinubukan ko ulit mag offer pero sa ibang thera na kilala ko na ng husto. hindi dahil may gusto ako sa kanya pero gusto ko siyang tulungan. may anak na siya at yon lang daw ang kanyang source of income.

 

same offer at tinignan ko kung gagawa siya ng paraan para ma contact yung friend ko. binigyan ko pa ng 2 weeks bago ko siya kausapin tungkol doon para hindi magmukhang nangungulit. 2 weeks nakalipas. wala pa rin.

 

naiisip ko na may pattern na nabubuo sa takbo ng pagiisip itong mga thera. one track mind ang kanilang isip. dahil andyan na sila sa trabahong yan, ang takbo ng mindset nila eh parang yan lang ang kaya nilang gawing trabaho.

 

pero kulang pa ang aking sample size para makagawa ng conclusion. susubukan ko na ialok ito sa 4 pa na thera na kilala ko sa ibat-ibang spa. totoo naman ang tulong ko at kung mag-aapply sila tatanggapin sila for the office work. pero naging experiment na rin sa akin dahil gusto ko malaman kung parehas ang takbo ng isip nila tungkol sa kagustuhan nila sa spa na lang sila magtatrabaho o gusto ba nila na may trabaho sila na marangal at maayos kesa yan.

 

magpopost na lang ulit ako pag nakuha ko na ang mga sagot ng mga aalukin ko.

 

sorry sir but upon reading this post, medyo overgeneralizing ata yung reach. A "case study" of how they'd approach your offer doesn't show a one-track mind. To me kasi, yung pag-ooffer mo ng job would make them feel na "kailangan ba namin ng tulong ng GM para lang makabalik sa totoong mundo"? It's kinda true na you ought to teach these women how to fish rather than just giving them fish.