money Financial Planning

[JohannBeckham]

I fully understand what you mean by investing in ETFs. I have mine as well. What i am saying is aside from ETF you can do more..for example, i am investing in Dvboer, in 3yrs time i can get 200% of what i invested. Based from my experience, I cannot get it from ETFs. Another example is 5yrs ago bought a pre-selling condo which has 2x the market value now. Again, i cannot get it from ETFs. I agree that it is a double sided coin, pero may tinatawag na calculated risks.

Dont get me wrong sir...parang ikaw kasi pinakamayaman dito kaya kung risk ang pag-uusapan to venture other investments, ikaw ang pinakaqualified. 😄

Ang sa akin lng, simplicity is the key. If i can get the same return, yet spending just 5 minutes a month of my time to manage it (just the act of buying the ETF) OR 1 hour of my life in one year, then it's all good for me. Thats my principle, JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE. it makes me sleep well at night, less ang isipin. Less stress. Less people to deal with (not much of a people person myself). Oh the beauty of simplicity.

[kuworuru]

 

I just completed a VUL with Philam Life last year (when I turned 32) which guarantees at least P1.6 million when I reach 65 years old. Since 2017, I've started building a portfolio with Sunlife (P600K spread in 10 years by the time I will be 41 years old) which projects a fund value of P6.5 million when I turn 65 years old. Thankfully, my income and savings have grown significantly over the past 2 years and I was able to pay in advance 5 years' worth of premium for Sunlife in just 2 years (the payment was done last month). With that, I am planning to complete the remaining 5 years' worth of payment next year, which should accelerate the growth of my fund value by 7 years. The thing is, just like @neville's concern, I don't feel like I am accumulating enough savings and investments in order to make early retirement possible or even to achieve financial security. I have prepared an emergency fund of around P200K, which I plan to expand to P500K next year right after I complete my premium for Sunlife.

 

Those are essentially the closest I have to assets. I'm not really familiar with financial risk management, which is why I'm trying to explore many avenues for wealth management that won't require intensive worrying and monitoring, although I understand it is very important to ensure the well-being of any investment.

 

Thankfully, my income and savings have grown significantly over the past 2 years and I was able to pay in advance 5 years' worth of premium for Sunlife in just 2 years

 

- if i may ask, what's the advantage of paying the premiums in advance? i usually do this for loans, pero with insurance, i went term, so not sure with how variable life handles it. para ba siyang loans na may "discount"/restructuring if you wipe it out? i understand this might be related to what you said about accelerating growth, but i'm curious as to how this would happen.

 

The thing is, just like @neville's concern, I don't feel like I am accumulating enough savings and investments in order to make early retirement possible or even to achieve financial security.

 

- i feel you. since you recently just started, at least based on what i've read, it may seem like it's a bit slow, but i think that once you get to building a larger "base" investment fund, then the small percentage also grows. I can relate because i got impatient with passive investments so i went on to start and built a few businesses that i thought would yield a higher percentage return. overall it worked out, but looking back, it wasn't as easy as i initially thought in my 20s (sunk a few, launched a few, but overall net win, plus tuition fees)

 

I have prepared an emergency fund of around P200K, which I plan to expand to P500K next year right after I complete my premium for Sunlife

 

- i'm also curious as to why you're expanding to 500k php. i understand that current teachings call for 3 to 6 months worth of salary, but as a business person, i feel like this could already be capital for a microbusiness that can net you a few extra bucks a month.

[kuworuru]

Thank you sir. Yes I sure did. I'll update after a month

 

So I applied for the loan this Monday .

Nacredit na last night

So today Wednesday accessible na Yung funds. Ang bilis Lang pala .2 days processing for personal loans sa Bpi

 

 

Also tanong ko Lang

 

Normal Lang ba talaga na 6,000 Ang doc stamp?

Tapos 1500 Ang processing fee

Nagulat ako na 6k Ang doc stamp lol

enjoy! sige, please, pabalita after a month kung kumusta? haha!

 

haha, wala ako alam sa doc stamps e, pero nung time ko, processing fee was 2.5k yata tapos walang mention of doc stamps. processing fee was just deducted from the proceeds. of course pinasok ko lang sa computation haha.

 

also, di ko nakita kung namention mo, pero kinuha mo talaga full 3 years?

[kuworuru]

 

 

ah..research mode na naman ako para hanapin kung sino ang character na tinutukoy mo

 

yes, serious about the shipping container idea. pero ilang taon pa bago ako magpatayo na ng bahay. ni hindi ko pa alam kung saan ako titira nang permanente. hehehe. pag natapos ko na ang MA ko (in at least a year), saka ko na maiisip ang lugar.

 

pag bibili na ako ng lote, i will definitely let you know

 

good thing is open rin yung mga kids sa Ate ko. ibang usapan sa tatay nila. bad trip sila doon. kaya mas komportable silang apat na ako kasama kesa sa asawa/tatay nila hehehe

 

asar lang kasi minsan seryoso na ako pero joke time pa rin trato nila sa usapan. ayun, beast mode ending ko hahaha

 

hehehe, sensya na, serious investing newbie kasi. pati sa negosyo bagito...feeling ko pa rin ako dapat lahat gagawa. pag sa iba ko pinagawa, hindi pulido, kaya stressed out ako.

 

on another note, research mode na kami tungkol sa negosyo. more like, "inutusuan" ko na ang partners ko na maghanap ng datos at wag hintayin ang prospective client na magdikta ng terms. pag nauna yung isa naming prospective client na humingi ng proposal, nakakahiyang wala kaming maibigay kasi di kami gumawa ng due diligence.

 

nalaman ko nga kahapon na pati sa meditation group, kailangan kong maging mobile.

 

sasabog utak ko sa pag-iisip kung paano na buhay ko hanggang next sem. thesis, ministry work (for easier contextualization), business, freelance translation work, and the personal vegetarian blog.

 

so much for chucking out one task out the window. lol.

 

i need to delegate work and make myself able to breathe.

 

 

may travel fund ako lagi sa budget. di puwedeng di umalis. mababaliw ako pag di ako sasakay ng eroplano para magbakasyon.

nice, good luck! let me know in a year, iconnect kita dun sa sinasabi ko in case magustuhan mo yung mga bahay na ginagawa nila. our plan before was for a resort property pero hindi nagpan out kasi ang mahal ng pagship ng containers papunta dun sa isla haha!

 

hahaha, good to hear! iba rin may healthy relationships with parents. feeling ko kasi in my case, malaking tulong kung naging mas bukas yung utak ko sa mga sinasabi ng parents ko noon. turned out okay overall pero iniisip ko sayang rin.

 

can relate sa delegation. hirap ako dyan early kasi mas nasstress lang ako pag pinagawa ko sa iba. not sure if it would help, but what's helping me get over it is thinking na opportunity cost pag ako gagawa. constant questioning ng "is this worth my time." medyo feel ko nung start na parang ang yabang ko, pero hard lesson siya dahil marami ako namiss out na opportunities dahil busy ako doing things that i didnt want to delegate haha.

 

i think taking the initiative is a good move, so congrats on doing that. hopefully may makuha na useful data yung researcher niyo!

 

pano ginagawa ang mobile meditation?

 

medyo intense yung workload mo, so ang masasabi ko lang ay good luck, have fun! magbunga nawa ang lahat! haha!

di ko alam san ilalagay and kung may nagbabasa ba nung HR thread, so isingit ko na rin dito:

 

 

Are there any product management professionals in this forum? I'm looking to sit down and refresh my knowledge of the field, as I'm planning to hire a product manager in the coming weeks.

Looking for a product manager who would be interested in either:

1. discussing current best practices over coffee/dinner

2. joining our company

No pressure. kwentuhan environment. If you're interested in the second option, the formal interview process can start after the coffee session. Right now just interested in the current practices.

Feel free to reply or send me a pm. thanks!

[brazzerboy]

 

- if i may ask, what's the advantage of paying the premiums in advance? i usually do this for loans, pero with insurance, i went term, so not sure with how variable life handles it. para ba siyang loans na may "discount"/restructuring if you wipe it out? i understand this might be related to what you said about accelerating growth, but i'm curious as to how this would happen.

 

- i feel you. since you recently just started, at least based on what i've read, it may seem like it's a bit slow, but i think that once you get to building a larger "base" investment fund, then the small percentage also grows. I can relate because i got impatient with passive investments so i went on to start and built a few businesses that i thought would yield a higher percentage return. overall it worked out, but looking back, it wasn't as easy as i initially thought in my 20s (sunk a few, launched a few, but overall net win, plus tuition fees)

 

- i'm also curious as to why you're expanding to 500k php. i understand that current teachings call for 3 to 6 months worth of salary, but as a business person, i feel like this could already be capital for a microbusiness that can net you a few extra bucks a month.

 

The advantage of paying the premiums in advance is that it gets to speed up the growth of fund value of your investments, and it won't have any effect on the life insurance component of the VUL either. I've witnessed it personally because after I deposited the 3-year advanced premium worth 180K, the fund value quickly grew by 200K. Otherwise, it would have taken the next three years to achieve such gain. In retrospect, I've just realized how much are the benefits of being able to start saving/investing when you're young. Sunlife projects that a fund value of 600K would require 24 years to grow into 6.5 million. Just imagine if you are 21 years old and you have 600K to invest in mutual funds, that means you'll likely get 6.5 million by the time you reach 45 years old. Of course, not every one will get to have the privilege of having 600K at hand during such a young age. And anyone with that amount of money will likely spend it on a new car or anything that will become a liability in the future.

 

As for my emergency fund, I'm currently doing a freelance copywriting work for a multinational firm. It earns significantly a lot more compare to my previous work but since it's freelance, there is absolutely no job security in the long term. This is why I'm trying to max out my emergency fund. In the event I find myself without a job, I might as well venture into business. This is also the reason why I was asking about investments through index funds and ETFs at BPI. Considering, I am able to generate substantial savings at the moment, might as well find ways to make the money productive rather than sitting inside a bank.

[neville]

Financial details given to my financial planner. We meet this Friday.

 

Funny enough, I'm helping an old office mate plan her finances. She's a willing student. Told her I only teach her what I know. We actually went to the COL seminars on Mutual Funds and Stock Market. She's prepping her money to open an account and invest. Nice.

 

 

Her mother will accuse me of being a bad influence on her daughter. Old school Kasi, never believed in investing. Just the idea that your kids are your retirement fund.

 

😁😁😁

[MartinDomingo]

enjoy! sige, please, pabalita after a month kung kumusta? haha!

 

haha, wala ako alam sa doc stamps e, pero nung time ko, processing fee was 2.5k yata tapos walang mention of doc stamps. processing fee was just deducted from the proceeds. of course pinasok ko lang sa computation haha.

 

also, di ko nakita kung namention mo, pero kinuha mo talaga full 3 years?

Yes sir .Yun Kasi Yung promo nila for the .98% personal loan .dapat 3 years talaga

Pero if babayaran ko earlier. .pwede without the fee Ng termination Ng loan

Hope all goes well

[neville]

Wahahahaha...may travel fund din ako lagi pero grabe naman kung mababaliw pag hindi nakasakay ng eroplano 😂

Basta ako ayokong masyadong magpayaman...ang gusto ko ay makahanap ng girlfriend na gagawin akong mayaman...este i mean sasamahan akong magtravel 😜

 

 

sumagot na yata ako. pero naisip ko, paano kung business class ang gusto ng GF mong travel companion?

 

wala na?

 

 

nice, good luck! let me know in a year, iconnect kita dun sa sinasabi ko in case magustuhan mo yung mga bahay na ginagawa nila. our plan before was for a resort property pero hindi nagpan out kasi ang mahal ng pagship ng containers papunta dun sa isla haha!

 

hahaha, good to hear! iba rin may healthy relationships with parents. feeling ko kasi in my case, malaking tulong kung naging mas bukas yung utak ko sa mga sinasabi ng parents ko noon. turned out okay overall pero iniisip ko sayang rin.

 

can relate sa delegation. hirap ako dyan early kasi mas nasstress lang ako pag pinagawa ko sa iba. not sure if it would help, but what's helping me get over it is thinking na opportunity cost pag ako gagawa. constant questioning ng "is this worth my time." medyo feel ko nung start na parang ang yabang ko, pero hard lesson siya dahil marami ako namiss out na opportunities dahil busy ako doing things that i didnt want to delegate haha.

 

i think taking the initiative is a good move, so congrats on doing that. hopefully may makuha na useful data yung researcher niyo!

 

pano ginagawa ang mobile meditation?

 

medyo intense yung workload mo, so ang masasabi ko lang ay good luck, have fun! magbunga nawa ang lahat! haha!

di ko alam san ilalagay and kung may nagbabasa ba nung HR thread, so isingit ko na rin dito:

 

 

Are there any product management professionals in this forum? I'm looking to sit down and refresh my knowledge of the field, as I'm planning to hire a product manager in the coming weeks.

Looking for a product manager who would be interested in either:

1. discussing current best practices over coffee/dinner

2. joining our company

No pressure. kwentuhan environment. If you're interested in the second option, the formal interview process can start after the coffee session. Right now just interested in the current practices.

Feel free to reply or send me a pm. thanks!

 

 

nice! will do sir. sana alam ko na next year o sa 2021 kung saan ako titira. fascinating sa akin ang idea ng shipping container homes. astig siya architecturallly

 

yup, nakakatuwa na disiplinado mga pamangkin ko pero open sila sa amin. sa akin lang naman nila pinapakita ang likaw ng bituka nila. sa iba, behaved at prim and proper ang mga ungas. di ako makapaniwala na good kids sila sa ibang tao.

 

noon, gusto ko na ako na lang gagawa nang lahat para sigurado akong maayos ang trabaho. pero habang tumatagal, napansin kong mas marami akong nagagawa kung matutulungan ako ng mga tamang tao. Ganyan na kaso sa lagay ko ngayon. di ko puwedeng gawin lahat. dadaigin ko pa si Voldemort sa seven soul splits niya para matapos lahat ng kailangan. Delegation is key. I only need to learn to let go of some things.

 

naku, dapat may mahanap na sagot ang researchers namin. Mahirap maging tanga, di ba?

 

ah, mobile as a meditation teacher....not mobile meditation aalis kasi ang teacher na nasa laguna, uuwi na sa home country. ako nakikita ng nandito na dumalaw doon twice a week. umalma na ako kasi di siya posible at masyadong nakakapagod. buti may isang kaya ring pumunta ng laguna para salitan kami

 

so yes, delegation is the only way to ease my intense schedule. now i get why big business owners usually travel on a business with pleasure itineraries. it's impossible to really leave the business alone.

 

i was technically a project manager with my old job. but we were not formally trained as project managers. we simply had to make sure that the orders were completed by all the concerned departments. rank and file pero manager ang job title. labo. haha

[Papa Popoy]

sumagot na yata ako. pero naisip ko, paano kung business class ang gusto ng GF mong travel companion?

 

wala na?

 

 

Siguraduhin lang nyang pangbusiness class din ang kagandahan nya 😂✌️

Aba wag choosy pag hindi yummy 😂😂😂

Patuturuan ko sya sayo ng financial education 😜

[neville]

Siguraduhin lang nyang pangbusiness class din ang kagandahan nya ✌️

Aba wag choosy pag hindi yummy

Patuturuan ko sya sayo ng financial education

 

 

Huwag choosy kung hindi yummy...right. Trophy gf material lang ba siya?

 

Ako talaga magtuturo? Maling age bracket ako sir. Dapat bata pa pero mayaman na ang magtuturo sa kaniya kung sa travel buddy/gf mo magtuturo

[JohannBeckham]

Whoa the stock market is running like a wild bull. Make me think twice about investing in shares and start buying bonds (i have zero bonds at the moment). I know its hard to time the market but man, the bull is out and its goin wild.

 

My unrealised gain at the moment is in AUD 6 digits. I'm stoked but fearful at the same time.

[MRROUGHSEX]

 

- not sure if this would be useful, but back when i started doing consulting, i had a similar problem na hindi ko alam magkano sisingilin ko sa clients dahil feeling ko hindi naman talaga ako nagtratrabaho dahil medyo madali lang for me yung mga projections na ginagawa ko for clients. may nabasa ako na book noon, and i decided to suddenly charge the same as industry rate (I started na parang pinapa-dinner/lunch lang ako ng mga tao hahaha) so I was surprised that there were people who were really willing to pay that amount. Next step ko was to double it, tapos meron pa rin. nung naging mas busy na ako sa ibang negosyo, i charge my standard hourly rate just to make sure that it's worth my time. medyo malayo yung hourly rate na yun sa initial industry rate. true, some clients said that they couldnt afford it, but some stuck to it, and i think that that's a good thing since worthwhile para sa aming lahat. that said, all the best sa business

 

 

 

Nice gig you have kuworuru! More power!

[MRROUGHSEX]

I started investing in August 2011 and before that i'm deeply in debt living a happy go lucky solid MTC bachelor life. But then i get married to my beautiful wife in 2011 and that's when my finances started to go in the right direction. We're (me and my wife) were not always a good saver. Last year lng namin na hit yung target naming more than AUD $100k save and invested in ETFs in a given calendar year. Prior to that, the highest it has been is like $30-$50k/year or AUD 2,500 - $4,100/month. Nkadagdag din sa motivation namin when we have a child together 3 years ago. We matured alot and started cutting lots of stuff. Me and my wife still support our parents (hers and mine), typical sandwich generation since our parents do not have the financial means to support themselves. Nung kami pa lng at wla pang anak, kahit sinong kaibigan, kamag anak, kapit bahay or kakilala ng kapit bahay na mangungutang, pinapautang namin. After ng magka anak kme, we say "No" to most if not all of it now. I realize na ang laki ng neri remit namin every month na people no longer know their boundaries and would simply demand for money simply because we have it and they dont. Well, tough luck.

Im 39 years old know and next year will hitting the big FOUR-O so im definitely not young anymore. But considere where i have been to where we are now, boy it's such a big upgrade.

I'm not saying these to brag. No, and I'm not here to please any ladies in this group for I'm happily married to my beautiful uber sexy wife and mother to my beautiful child. I'm saying these to hopefully inspire and help someone in any shape or form.

We're very lucky to have you on this board pre JB. Certified FIRE guy ka! Wala bang pic ni sexy wife hahaha.

[MRROUGHSEX]

Siguraduhin lang nyang pangbusiness class din ang kagandahan nya ✌️

 

LOL Natawa ako ng hus2.

[neville]

Right. I did say I will give you guys an update.

 

Since I don't really get all the details of the financial spreadsheet my Financial Planner does for me (Basta Alam ko Kung ano Ang income, investments, at expenses ko), what I can understand is the end of the line aka the net worth figures.

 

December 2018: approximately PhP 540,000

Expected December 2019 balance: PhP 1,700,000

 

She estimated a growth of 222%

 

 

 

 

 

*I can see her grin while she was making her analyses.

 

*Let's gun for PhP 2.5 million in 2020. The business has to really take off for it to happen.

 

*Pat on the back moment.