camiar Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) saw the video and i knew some information the video showed. the question is, whose behind it. and why only now? and another thing what about other presidents??? what about the millions imelda and marcos cronies they stole??What do you mean "why only now"? A lot has already been said in the past about how the ruling oligrachy has kept our nation poor and ignorant. Even Ferdinand Marcos tried going against them and eventually lost (He has his own faults but that's another story). Decades of information campaigns against the real nature of the oligarchy have been drowned out by media, propaganda, character demolition jobs, and outright assasinations of enligthened protesters perpetrated by the yellow propagandists and their underworld thugs. It is only now, through internet and mobile communication, that the people are starting to get information that has been kept from them for generations. Decades of ABS-CBN's media hype in cheap raunchy "masa" entertainment and biased "news" reporting they call "balita" kept the majority of Pinoys clueless of what's really going on. These are all done to keep the Pinoys perpetually ignorant enough to continually vote for the puppet politicians beholden to the oligarchs. Cory, Erap, and Noynoy are the most rabid pro-oligarch puppets the brainwashed Pinoys voted to power. Edited November 9, 2011 by camiar Quote Link to comment
hellyeah1 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Why only now? Eh pinalabas na iyan noong eleksyon! Ang ganda ng timing ng paglabas ulit ng video! Bwekekekekekekeke! Mukhang wala ng pagtitimplahan ng kape ang tatay ni Mr. Slamdunk bali na ang leeg ng amo! Bwekekekekekekekeke! Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) Why only now? Eh pinalabas na iyan noong eleksyon! Ang ganda ng timing ng paglabas ulit ng video! Bwekekekekekekeke! Mukhang wala ng pagtitimplahan ng kape ang tatay ni Mr. Slamdunk bali na ang leeg ng amo! Bwekekekekekekekeke! haha.. a typical abnoy fanatic, ginamit mo na naman utak mo sa tumbong, kung titingnan mo kung kelan ginawa at inupload ni Pinoymonkeypride yung nasabing video malalaman mo na sablay na naman yang pinagsasabi mo, Oct 21, 2011 yan inupload sa youtube papaano mo nasabing pinalabas na yan nung eleksyon? LMFAO! sa susunod gamitin mo naman yung utak mo sa ulo at dahan dahan sa pagiging panatiko. GMA NEWS mismo gumawa ng special news feature sa nasabing isyu noong nakaraang taon, at pareho din ang nilalaman ng video at ng report ng GMA 7, tinuturo ang pamilyang Aquino at si Abnoy sa mga pagpatay sa mga supporters /peasant leaders sa hacienda. huling huli pa si Abnoy na nagsisinungaling tungkol sa OVERPRICED SCTEX project nya. nagtataka lang ako kung bakit hindi ito naging malaking isyu? Tama nga siguro yung sinasabi nilang YELLOW PROPAGANDA. Edited November 9, 2011 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) An excerpt from GMA NEWS report: Noynoy ‘s “superhighway" Before entering Las Haciendas on January 2, 2005, Loveland said, Aquino alighted from his vehicle and addressed the picketers about a “superhighway". Loveland’s account of what Aquino said is in the transcript of the Senate hearing. LOVELAND: Sinasabi niya po yung hinihingi daw po niyang pabor yung sa superhighway na hinihingi niya . . . (He was talking about a favor for the superhighway that he was asking for . . .) SENATOR OSMEÑA: Ano tungkol sa superhighway (What about the superhighway)? LOVELAND: Project niya daw po, sir . . . (He said it was his project . . . ) OSMEÑA: Ano ang hiningi ni Congressman Aquino (What did Congressman Aquino ask for)? LOVELAND: Yung ipatupad, sir, yung kuwan expressway, sir (To let it happen, sir, the expressway, sir). OSMEÑA: Yung galing sa Subic at Clark (The one from Subic and Clark)? Long before the rest of the country had even heard of SCTex, the farm workers back then were protesting the construction of the Luisita interchange of the highway, and had even tried blocking it with their bodies. The construction led to the loss of a large tract of the hacienda’s land, which the farm workers were claiming, to non-agricultural use. In his testimony, Loveland said one of the men who were with Aquino went up to him and said the picketers should agree to a settlement. He warned them to be careful, then entered the subdivision. Three days later, Loveland said, the man and some companions figured in an altercation with the picketers and opened fire on them at the gate. The January 5, 2005 Shooting at the West Gate of Las Haciendas Subdivision On January 5, 2005 (or nearly two months after the Luisita massacre), some 20 picketers were manning the picket point at the west gate of Las Haciendas subdivision inside Hacienda Luisita. According to Police Chief Superintendent Angelo Sunglao of the Tarlac City PNP, at about 10:40 pm, a Nissan Patrol drove up to the gate from inside the subdivision, and an altercation ensued between the picketers and the men on board the vehicle. Continue reading Sen. Aquino declined through his staff to be interviewed. Questions sent to him about the above incident went unanswered. But GMANews.TV combed the web and newspaper archives for any statements he made about the incidents in this series of reports. His staff also emailed to GMANews.TV several statements of Sen. Aquino on other Luisita-related issues. These statements were included below and other parts of the series. Noynoy denies link to SCTEx project In November 2009, an investigation into the SCTEx project was launched in Congress by Aquino’s political rivals. Cavite Rep. Crispin Remulla, an ally of Senator Manny Villar, accused Aquino of lobbying for the Luisita interchange of the SCTEx, saying the government paid Hacienda Luisita, Inc (HLI) an inflated amount of P83 million for the road right of way, and assumed the cost of building a P170-million interchange to connect the Central Techno Park inside his family’s hacienda to the SCTEx. The SCTEX Issue The 94-kilometer Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEx) is presently the longest highway in the Philippines. It connects the Subic Bay Freeport, the Clark Freeport, and Tarlac City. The Bases Conversion Development Authority (BCDA) was the government arm that oversaw the implementation of the project. According to the BCDA, 85% of the P27 billion cost to build the SCTEx was financed through funds borrowed by the government from the Japan Bank for International Cooperation (JBIC). Continue reading In a November 12, 2009 report of GMANews.TV, Aquino denied he had anything to do with the project. He attributed the reports linking him to the SCTEx issue to character assassination because he was leading surveys for the presidential elections. Loveland’s statements about Aquino and the superhighway, however, were recorded five years ago, before anyone had an inkling Aquino would run for president. Edited November 9, 2011 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Why only now? Eh pinalabas na iyan noong eleksyon! Ang ganda ng timing ng paglabas ulit ng video! Bwekekekekekekeke! Mukhang wala ng pagtitimplahan ng kape ang tatay ni Mr. Slamdunk bali na ang leeg ng amo! Bwekekekekekekekeke! the bigger question is..... TOTOO BA YUNG ALLEGATIONS? the timing of the video, the way i see it, is a non-issue...... Quote Link to comment
HunkDavao Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 matagal pa elections meron na nito? o wag the dog style to? may malaking issue bang hinaharap ang Administration or ang mga Opposition na gusto nila malipat ang attention sa youtube video na to? Quote Link to comment
hellyeah1 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Bwekekekekekekeke! TUMBONG na naman! Talagang peborit mo ang tumbong. Hobby mo pa rin ba ang mag-finger ng tumbong? Bwekekekekekekeke!Mukhang sumama ata ang utak mo sa daliri ng huli kang magkalkal ng tumbong, madaming CD na lumabas ng ganyang bidyo noong eleksyon..Paritido nyo ba ang may pakana nyan (Yung sinasabi mong pinakamalaki at pinakamalakas ang makinarya na kayang ipanalo ang manok ni Gloria Bwekekekiekekeke!)? Kumbaga sa software ver.2.0 na iyan at wala pa rin iba! Bwekekekekekeke! Mukhang apektadong-apektado ka ata dahil wala ng pagtitimplahan ng kape ang tatay mo sa partido! MAs maganda nyan sampahan nyo ng kaso! Kung totoo yan dapat talo si Noynoy sa eleksyon pero walang wenta ang alegasyon! Saka hinde youtube video ang magpapatunay kung may pagkakasala! Sampahan mo ng kaso sa Ombudsman at impeachment! Bwekekekekekekekeke! Bottom line yung amo nyo na si Lolong at ang kanyang asawang may Christmas Tree sa leeg ay ma-shoot na sa kulungan! Gumagawa lahat ng palusot para makatakas! Bwekekekekekekeke! haha.. a typical abnoy fanatic, ginamit mo na naman utak mo sa tumbong, kung titingnan mo kung kelan ginawa at inupload ni Pinoymonkeypride yung nasabing video malalaman mo na sablay na naman yang pinagsasabi mo, Oct 21, 2011 yan inupload sa youtube papaano mo nasabing pinalabas na yan nung eleksyon? LMFAO! sa susunod gamitin mo naman yung utak mo sa ulo at dahan dahan sa pagiging panatiko. GMA NEWS mismo gumawa ng special news feature sa nasabing isyu noong nakaraang taon, at pareho din ang nilalaman ng video at ng report ng GMA 7, tinuturo ang pamilyang Aquino at si Abnoy sa mga pagpatay sa mga supporters /peasant leaders sa hacienda. huling huli pa si Abnoy na nagsisinungaling tungkol sa OVERPRICED SCTEX project nya. nagtataka lang ako kung bakit hindi ito naging malaking isyu? Tama nga siguro yung sinasabi nilang YELLOW PROPAGANDA. Quote Link to comment
hellyeah1 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Sampahan ng kaso para mapatunayn kung totoo! Pero kung youtube lang ang basehan propagandang malinaw lang yan.the bigger question is..... TOTOO BA YUNG ALLEGATIONS? the timing of the video, the way i see it, is a non-issue...... Quote Link to comment
bill_262003 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 It is easy to make allegations. But hard to prove them. 1. Cory's statement that she has no political ambitions, but would support whoever the opposition chose to be the president. The opposition chose her.2. Revolutionary Gold going to the Cojuangcos? Is there even a revolutionary gold? And if it is really how the family became rich, then it would contradict the loan that was given to the Cojuangco's in the 1950s for them to purchase the Azucarera? 3. Hacienda Luisita, is Cory/Noynoy even a majority owner of the Hacienda? Or a controlling owner for that matter?4. Unrest in the Hacienda. This is a fact. But Cory/Noynoy had a direct hand in this? Again, are they even controlling owners?5. Media has always been a powerful tool both in propaganda and black propaganda. But isn't what PinoyMonkeyPride's video also a propaganda masked as "Unearthing the truth"? All that is happening here is trial by publicity (in this case via youtube). Again, easy to make connections and allegations. But hard to prove. IMO, it is a distorted truth. Distorted to fit the agenda of PinoyMonkeyPride. Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Bwekekekekekekeke! TUMBONG na naman! Talagang peborit mo ang tumbong. Hobby mo pa rin ba ang mag-finger ng tumbong? Bwekekekekekekeke!Mukhang sumama ata ang utak mo sa daliri ng huli kang magkalkal ng tumbong, madaming CD na lumabas ng ganyang bidyo noong eleksyon..Paritido nyo ba ang may pakana nyan (Yung sinasabi mong pinakamalaki at pinakamalakas ang makinarya na kayang ipanalo ang manok ni Gloria Bwekekekiekekeke!)? Kumbaga sa software ver.2.0 na iyan at wala pa rin iba! Bwekekekekekeke! Mukhang apektadong-apektado ka ata dahil wala ng pagtitimplahan ng kape ang tatay mo sa partido! MAs maganda nyan sampahan nyo ng kaso! Kung totoo yan dapat talo si Noynoy sa eleksyon pero walang wenta ang alegasyon! Saka hinde youtube video ang magpapatunay kung may pagkakasala! Sampahan mo ng kaso sa Ombudsman at impeachment! Bwekekekekekekekeke! Bottom line yung amo nyo na si Lolong at ang kanyang asawang may Christmas Tree sa leeg ay ma-shoot na sa kulungan! Gumagawa lahat ng palusot para makatakas! Bwekekekekekekeke! Hahaha..Row 4 na row 4 ka talaga sumagot tulad ng idol mong si Abnoy. impeachable offense ba yung alegasyon na nakapaloob sa report ng GMA news at ng nasa youtube video? unang una yung mga nasabing pagpatay sa mga peasant leaders at supporters ng mga magsasaka sa hacienda, kasama na rin yung hindi pagtupad ng mga Aquino sa kasunduan sa pamamahagi ng lupa sa magsasaka, yung SCTEx project ni Abnoy ay nangyari lahat BAGO pa sya maging presidente.. ang laki mong TANG MANGGA kung sasabihin mong magsampa ng impeachment kay abNoy kung totoo lahat ng nasa report row 4..hahaha Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 It is easy to make allegations. But hard to prove them. 1. Cory's statement that she has no political ambitions, but would support whoever the opposition chose to be the president. The opposition chose her.2. Revolutionary Gold going to the Cojuangcos? Is there even a revolutionary gold? And if it is really how the family became rich, then it would contradict the loan that was given to the Cojuangco's in the 1950s for them to purchase the Azucarera? 3. Hacienda Luisita, is Cory/Noynoy even a majority owner of the Hacienda? Or a controlling owner for that matter?4. Unrest in the Hacienda. This is a fact. But Cory/Noynoy had a direct hand in this? Again, are they even controlling owners?5. Media has always been a powerful tool both in propaganda and black propaganda. But isn't what PinoyMonkeyPride's video also a propaganda masked as "Unearthing the truth"? All that is happening here is trial by publicity (in this case via youtube). Again, easy to make connections and allegations. But hard to prove. IMO, it is a distorted truth. Distorted to fit the agenda of PinoyMonkeyPride. You are missing the point. Eto ang mga bagay na dapat sagutin ng mga Aquino na hanggang ngayon ay hindi nila nasagot. Lumang isyu na pala, pero bakit hanggang ngayon wala silang malinaw na paliwanag sa mga nasabing isyu. 1. Tumupad ba ang mga Aquinos sa napagkasunduan nila ng gobyerno bago sila pautangin na ipapamahagi ang lupa sa mga magsasaka pagkatapos ng 10 taon? 2. Bakit binigyan ng exemption ni Cory ang Hacienda Luisita sa land reform act niya sa pamamagitan ng paglalagay ng SDO sa Hacienda? Nagkataon lang ba o talagang sinadya niya na bigyan ng exemption ang Hacienda dahil ang pamilya nila ang may ari? 3. Sino ang higit na makikinabang sa pagpatay sa mga KEY WITNESSES, PEASANT LEADERS, SUPPORTERS at mga SYMPATHIZERS ng mga magsasaka ng Hacienda? Nagkataon lang ba na halos sunod sunod ang pagpatay sa mga nasabing mga tao? At ano ang sagot ni Noynoy sa 2 nakaligtas sa pamamaril na itinuro ang mga PERSONAL BODYGUARDS niya sa pamamaril noong sya ay kongresman pa lang? 4. Ang OVERPRICED na SCTEx project na lumabas noong 2009 at itinanggi ni Noynoy na may kinalaman sya, pero paano nya ipapaliwanag na 2005 pa lang bago pa sya tumakbo sa pagka presidente ay itinuro na siya sa senate hearing na may planong magpatayo ng "super highway" na dadaan sa Hacienda? Quote Link to comment
Guest nick fury Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 It is easy to make allegations. But hard to prove them. 1. Cory's statement that she has no political ambitions, but would support whoever the opposition chose to be the president. The opposition chose her.2. Revolutionary Gold going to the Cojuangcos? Is there even a revolutionary gold? And if it is really how the family became rich, then it would contradict the loan that was given to the Cojuangco's in the 1950s for them to purchase the Azucarera? 1. The thing is Cory said that she won't run for president but eventually ran for president. 2. How would getting a loan for the purchase of Azucarera contradict the revolutionary gold that made the Cojuangcos rich? Quote Link to comment
HunkDavao Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 i have to add EVEN IF ALL THE ALLEGATIONS WERE/ARE TRUE I wouldn't give a sh%t on this, why? im hellbent more interested on how NoyNoy is performing NOW . not before. not his parents. not his sisters. Corruption is a given in this country which pays a call center agent more than City hall employees and other Civil servants. I can let that pass, let them get 5-10% of the pot, but make sure they make a return of hundred folds on the other 90% of the money. What Im saying is, Noynoy was chosen by the majority voters not because no one believed these allegations.. but because people like me believed and still believe that Noynoy can make a hell lot of difference, more than all those presidential aspirants, Gordon included. Its with Noynoy that we feel less anxious and worried that another 6 years would pass by without this country experiencing progress. Quote Link to comment
CUMonYou Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 The allegations are flawed..kung hindi ka nagpupunta sa tarlac at nakikibahagi sa buhay ng mga tarlakenyo then this video will dissuade you to believe that it is true..yun sinasabing naniningil ng P20.00 sa lusita exit going to the luisita compound is a blatant lie...ala namang ganun nangyayaring singilan sa exit to luisita compound...hayyy the video is very well done but it lacks truth into it...well local flipino will believe it but if your someone that has really done your research then this was definitely a smear campaign....the SCTEX cannto be approve by Pnoy he is merely a congressman the main approval is the administration during that time na nagmadali ipagawa ang SCTEX na substandard...dami na potholes at every now and then kailangan ng repair...hayyyyyy buhay nating mga pinoy... Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) The allegations are flawed..kung hindi ka nagpupunta sa tarlac at nakikibahagi sa buhay ng mga tarlakenyo then this video will dissuade you to believe that it is true..yun sinasabing naniningil ng P20.00 sa lusita exit going to the luisita compound is a blatant lie...ala namang ganun nangyayaring singilan sa exit to luisita compound...hayyy the video is very well done but it lacks truth into it...well local flipino will believe it but if your someone that has really done your research then this was definitely a smear campaign....the SCTEX cannto be approve by Pnoy he is merely a congressman the main approval is the administration during that time na nagmadali ipagawa ang SCTEX na substandard...dami na potholes at every now and then kailangan ng repair...hayyyyyy buhay nating mga pinoy... The OVERPRICED Luisita interchange of the SCTEx project is no different from Villar's C5 scandal na ginamit ni abNoy laban kay Villar nuong kampanya. Sinadyang idaan ang SCTEx sa gitna ng Hacienda Luisita kasama na rin dinaanan ang Techno park sa loob Hacienda na pag aari ngayon ng mga Aquinos. 2005 pa lang may nag ugnay na kay Noynoy sa SCTEx project 3 buwan bago pa man ito simulan. Immaterial ang testimonyang ito nuon sa senado pero kaya hindi gaanong kinwestyon ng mga senador ang testigo but it only made sense nang nagkatotoo nga. Ang nakakatawa pa, sa mga isyu na ito, hindi kelan man nagpaliwanag ang mga Aquino lalo na si Noynoy tugkol dito sa SCTEx project, ang nag iisang depensa ng mga Aquino sa mga isyu na ito ay "character assasination" lang daw laban sa kanilang pamilya, pero kahit kailan ay hindi sila nagpaliwanag ng maayos sa sambayanan. Yan ba ang lider na nagsasabing hindi sya magnanakaw at iaahon sa hirap ang bansa? How can a murderer/land grabber/cheat dressed in a sheep's clothing while hiding behind the the oligarchy-controlled mass media be able to alleviate the dumb and poor people's lives? Only their "YELLOW ZOMBIE" fanatics will believe such claim.Tama nga ang sinasabi ng iba that "the oligarchy-controlled mass media and a gullible, ignorant population are a wonderful combination". And what you mentioned is just ONE of the issues on that video... 1. Paano mo ipapaliwanag yung paglagay ni Cory sa land reform act nya ng SDO para lamang sa Hacienda Luisita specifically para lamang sa Hacienda na pag aari ng pamilya nya? 2. Yung mga sunod sunod pagpatay sa mga pari, mga peasant leaders sympathizers, supporters at key witnesses sa kaso ng mga magsasaka sa hacienda? 3. Yung hindi pagtupad ng mga Aquino sa kasunduan at ipinangako mismo ng nanay nya na ipapamahagi sa mga magsasaka ang lupa? Basahin mo ang report ng GMA news tungkol sa mga TUSONG TAKTIKA ng mga Aquino patungkol sa Hacienda Luisita, si Cory at Noynoy mismo ay itinuturong may malaking papel sa pang uuto ng mga Aquino sa mga magsasaka ng Hacienda. Edited November 9, 2011 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Quote Link to comment
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