South China/West Philippine Sea

[U.P. AdMU2008]

Never give up our claims!

[sandy51]

Meron ba galing Boy Scout, NPA, MILF , MNLF , Abu Sayaf o Reservist? Even reservist don;t get to be Generals.

 

Nice try. But I'm still looking for the source document of your statement na all military officers come from the PMA. Kahit keyword na lang for me to google if you don't want to reveal your source. Ty

[heatseeker0714]

Nice try. But I'm still looking for the source document of your statement na all military officers come from the PMA. Kahit keyword na lang for me to google if you don't want to reveal your source. Ty

 

Naghihintay ka Lang sa wala. Sinupalpal ko na sya nung sagot ko, yan yung mga tipong nagpo-post for the sake Lang na meron na-post. Isa lang sa 3 yan, pakawala ng Kaliwa or sympathizer nila, tamad magbasa/research or sadyang....

Edited May 8, 2012 by heatseeker0714

[inuithelper]

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[BrightestStar]

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Thanks for the reminder! Do you think we can do it all by ourselves without US help?

[sandy51]

Thanks for the reminder! Do you think we can do it all by ourselves without US help?

 

 

Not to side with the US but let us look at ourselves as a household. We ask for help from our neighbor but when they come to help us, one or two siblings want them to stay far away from our gate. Then when they stay with us, one or two siblings want to kick them out. And all through this time, the parents patronize the one or two siblings - and the rest of the siblings, who are supposed to be the majority, don't do anything either. Now, if you were the neighbor, what would you think?

[sandy51]

Thanks for the reminder! Do you think we can do it all by ourselves without US help?

 

 

Not to side with the US but let us look at ourselves as a household. We ask for help from our neighbor but when they come to help us, one or two siblings want them to stay far away from our gate. Then when they stay with us, one or two siblings want to kick them out. And all through this time, the parents patronize the one or two siblings - and the rest of the siblings, who are supposed to be the majority, don't do anything either. Now, if you were the neighbor, what would you think?

[sandy51]

Sorry. Nag double post pala. But might as well take this opportunity to add that I'm not siding with the US because as they say, there are no permanent friends. Only permanent national interest.

[Qui-Gon Jinn]

natawa ako sa nabasa ko - The United states of America is among the 34 nations who have not ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas (UNCLOS)...kaya wapakels sila...

the bigger surprise - The Philippines ALSO is not with the UNCLOS - WHEN IT COMES TO SOVEREIGNTY ISSUES LIKE THAT ON SCARBOROUGH...yes Marcos has ratified UNCLOS but not in it's entirety declaring that it doesn't recognize UNCLOS in certain issues...sadly the issue that "we" do not recognize is...THE ISSUE OF SOVEREIGNTY! WAPAK! TOINGKS!

[camiar]

natawa ako sa nabasa ko - The United states of America is among the 34 nations who have not ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Seas (UNCLOS)...kaya wapakels sila...

the bigger surprise - The Philippines ALSO is not with the UNCLOS - WHEN IT COMES TO SOVEREIGNTY ISSUES LIKE THAT ON SCARBOROUGH...yes Marcos has ratified UNCLOS but not in it's entirety declaring that it doesn't recognize UNCLOS in certain issues...sadly the issue that "we" do not recognize is...THE ISSUE OF SOVEREIGNTY! WAPAK! TOINGKS!

I wouldn't fault the Philippines for not not recognizing the UNCLOS issue on sovereignity. For it to work, ALL claimants should agree to the sovereignity issue. It's a matter of positioning for future negotiation. Not accepting it puts us on the same negotiating position as the other claimants.

[dungeonbaby]

Not to side with the US but let us look at ourselves as a household. We ask for help from our neighbor but when they come to help us, one or two siblings want them to stay far away from our gate. Then when they stay with us, one or two siblings want to kick them out. And all through this time, the parents patronize the one or two siblings - and the rest of the siblings, who are supposed to be the majority, don't do anything either. Now, if you were the neighbor, what would you think?

 

don't forget NOT coming to the aid of that neighbor when they are the ones asking for help.

 

remember when GMA went to the conference of non-aligned nations like Iran? that was like sticking it to the US.

Edited May 10, 2012 by dungeonbaby

[sandy51]

don't forget NOT coming to the aid of that neighbor when they are the ones asking for help.

 

remember when GMA went to the conference of non-aligned nations like Iran? that was like sticking it to the US.

 

 

Oh yes! That too. Thanks for the reminder.

[heatseeker0714]

Looks like we're gonna go Italian on one of our ships... Soldati Class (Enhanced Lupo Class) Frigates of the Marina Militare Italiana's being eyed by the DND, the F 582 Artigliere... Smaller than the 3,000ton WHECS from the USCG at 950 tons but carries much more firepower, among which are;

 

8 Otomat Mk 2 Surface to Surface Missiles

1 Mk.29 octuple launcher for Sea Sparrow/Aspide Surface to Air Missile

2 Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes

1 OTO Melara 127/54 mm gun

2 OTO Melara Twin 40L70 DARDO compact gun (Italian CIWS)

 

It also has a Fire Control Radar, Surface Search Radar, Air Search Radar and Hull Mounted Sonar. Plus a telescopic hangar which can accomodate 1 Chopper...

 

Praying dearly to God that this deal does push thru and that them Italians don't remove any of the equipment already installed...

 

 

As compared to to BRP Goyo and the incoming BRP Ramon Alcaraz which currently only have the following upon turnover to us;

 

1 OTO Melara 76mm gun

2 Cal .50 Machine guns

 

Fire Control Radar & Surface Search Radar and the telescopic hangar.

 

Grabe... Ngayon pa lang naglalaway na ko... :blush:

Edited May 10, 2012 by heatseeker0714

[deepwaters]

are we getting this for free?

 

 

Looks like we're gonna go Italian on one of our ships... Soldati Class (Enhanced Lupo Class) Frigates of the Marina Militare Italiana's being eyed by the DND, the F 582 Artigliere... Smaller than the 3,000ton WHECS from the USCG at 950 tons but carries much more firepower, among which are;

 

8 Otomat Mk 2 Surface to Surface Missiles

1 Mk.29 octuple launcher for Sea Sparrow/Aspide Surface to Air Missile

2 Mark 32 triple torpedo tubes

1 OTO Melara 127/54 mm gun

2 OTO Melara Twin 40L70 DARDO compact gun (Italian CIWS)

 

It also has a Fire Control Radar, Surface Search Radar, Air Search Radar and Hull Mounted Sonar. Plus a telescopic hangar which can accomodate 1 Chopper...

 

Praying dearly to God that this deal does push thru and that them Italians don't remove any of the equipment already installed...

 

 

As compared to to BRP Goyo and the incoming BRP Ramon Alcaraz which currently only have the following upon turnover to us;

 

1 OTO Melara 76mm gun

2 Cal .50 Machine guns

 

Fire Control Radar & Surface Search Radar and the telescopic hangar.

 

Grabe... Ngayon pa lang naglalaway na ko... :blush:

[dungeonbaby]

Any predictions for tomorrow's protest action against China's bullying?

 

China is ready to go to war with us to end the Scarborough Shoal standoff.

 

 

The safety alerts came as government-controlled media in China warned the country was prepared to go to war to end the standoff over Scarborough Shoal–small islands in the South China Sea that both nations claim as their own.

"No matter how willing we are to discuss the issue, the current Philippine leadership is intent on pressing us into a corner where there is no other option left but the use of arms," the China Daily said in an editorial.

"Manila is living in a fantasy world if it mistakes our forbearance for timidity."

 

 

Whatnowpnoy?

Edited May 10, 2012 by dungeonbaby