Team Pilipinas Basketball

[thegame08]

Lugi talaga tayo pagdating sa height and heft ng ibang countries (Iran, Lebanon, China, Korea, Japan) kaya nga may naturalized player ang Pinas in Douhit though I really don't like their chances with him, mas maganda pa sana kung si CJ Giles (na tinoyo naman) o si Chris Alexander (former Ginebra import) ang naging naturalized player nila. Also, my uncle in the U.S. is wondering why are those middle east countries are bunch with real Asian countries? Can anyone explain this?

[photographer]

Lugi talaga tayo pagdating sa height and heft ng ibang countries (Iran, Lebanon, China, Korea, Japan) kaya nga may naturalized player ang Pinas in Douhit though I really don't like their chances with him, mas maganda pa sana kung si CJ Giles (na tinoyo naman) o si Chris Alexander (former Ginebra import) ang naging naturalized player nila. Also, my uncle in the U.S. is wondering why are those middle east countries are bunch with real Asian countries? Can anyone explain this?

 

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Bro, tell your uncle that Middle Eastern countries like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Jordan, Lebanon are still part of Asia. They are real Asian countries.

 

[dfgvan]

oo nga.. bakit di ba alam ng uncle mo na nasa asia ang crdle of civilization???

basic na tinuturo yan sa any world history class...

[photographer]

cura

oo nga.. bakit di ba alam ng uncle mo na nasa asia ang crdle of civilization???

basic na tinuturo yan sa any world history class...

 

Hayaan ninyo na uncle niya. Ako naman, kapag kausap ko rin yung ibang tao, ang nasa isip nila East Asia lang ang Asia. Halos kasi iba na itsura ng mga nasa Middle East which is in fact, Western Asia na. Ok back to SMART para sa akin, isang lolo na sa basketball, dapat magkaron ng mga accurate shooters na medyo matangkad ang Philippines. The accuracy of Atoy Co, Bogs Adornado, Danilo Florencio. You might now know these guys, kung bata pa kayo but they have 80% accruracy ng kanilang shots and that includes Abbarientos of old (uncle ni Abbarientos of today), Papa, Mariano, Marquez, Miego, Castelo, and Botchok delos Santos. Mga kapag bumabato, halos umaandar na ang scoreboard. And they do it under intense guarding, double teaming and triple teaming. The problem kasi nowadays, mostly are Patrimonio-style players, puro sa looban. Ang tawag sa tagalog lingo. puro buhat ng buhat sa ilalim. Patrimonio was a devil sa PBA and his no. of MVPs will show it. pero sa international play, sisiw siya kasi hindi siya maka operate sa painted area. I know he will have hard time sa international play na run and shoot!

[dfgvan]

hahaha i still remember atoy co's crispa days

 

langya wala pang three point line nuon

ang lalayo ng binibitawan

 

of course who will not know bogs adornado, the first pba mvp

 

ang isa pa sa kailangan natin ay ung mga pf at center na may mid range

 

ikaw ba hahayaan mo na malibre sina guidaben, fernandez, patrimonio and even paras sa late years nya

[thegame08]

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Bro, tell your uncle that Middle Eastern countries like Israel, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Jordan, Lebanon are still part of Asia. They are real Asian countries.

 

 

Thanks sir.

[thegame08]

cura

 

Hayaan ninyo na uncle niya. Ako naman, kapag kausap ko rin yung ibang tao, ang nasa isip nila East Asia lang ang Asia. Halos kasi iba na itsura ng mga nasa Middle East which is in fact, Western Asia na. Ok back to SMART para sa akin, isang lolo na sa basketball, dapat magkaron ng mga accurate shooters na medyo matangkad ang Philippines. The accuracy of Atoy Co, Bogs Adornado, Danilo Florencio. You might now know these guys, kung bata pa kayo but they have 80% accruracy ng kanilang shots and that includes Abbarientos of old (uncle ni Abbarientos of today), Papa, Mariano, Marquez, Miego, Castelo, and Botchok delos Santos. Mga kapag bumabato, halos umaandar na ang scoreboard. And they do it under intense guarding, double teaming and triple teaming. The problem kasi nowadays, mostly are Patrimonio-style players, puro sa looban. Ang tawag sa tagalog lingo. puro buhat ng buhat sa ilalim. Patrimonio was a devil sa PBA and his no. of MVPs will show it. pero sa international play, sisiw siya kasi hindi siya maka operate sa painted area. I know he will have hard time sa international play na run and shoot!

 

Sir add mo na din siguro si Allan Caidic who stands about 6'3, he is a marked man sa bawat tournament na kasali ang Pinas noon.

Edited September 18, 2011 by thegame08

[photographer]

Sir add mo na din siguro si Allan Caidic who stands about 6'3, he is a marked man sa bawat tournament na kasali ang Pinas noon.

 

Yes, you're right si Allan. But Allan stands only at 6'1" not 6'3" but he's a demon kapag sa shooting. Same din kay Chip Engelland na mas accurate pa kay Allan Caidic. Imagine that! They are not that tall but they can pick screens and knows how to fight their way para malibre. Just like what Michael Jordan's been doing. Dribble but not so many dribbles na kagaya ni Mark Caguioa, daming dribbles. Yung tama lang tapos hanap ng butas.....SCORE!

[photographer]

hahaha i still remember atoy co's crispa days

 

langya wala pang three point line nuon

ang lalayo ng binibitawan

 

of course who will not know bogs adornado, the first pba mvp

 

ang isa pa sa kailangan natin ay ung mga pf at center na may mid range

 

ikaw ba hahayaan mo na malibre sina guidaben, fernandez, patrimonio and even paras sa late years nya

 

I think kung maagang nagkaron ng three points nuon, Atoy Co would be up there sa scoring leaders (all-time). Ang hirap bantayan. Ang tindi ng "fade-away" jumpers na parang imposibleng mahabol. Nakalaro ko minsan si Atoy, ako ang guwardiya. Mapapailing ka na lang. Sina Fernandez, Paras and Guidaben, mahihirapan ngayon sa international plays, kasi looban din laro nila at ang bagal nilang mag shoot. Look at the South Koreans, walang asi asintang mtagal. kapag jump shoot, nandun na ang split-second asintahan. Ang centers natin, hirap mag dribble. Pero para sa akin, shooting, and ACCURATE shooting ang kailangan talaga na kapanahunan ni RenRen Ritualo.There was this player, Arthur Herrera nuon, bigyan mo lang ng screen (which was usually done by the late Tembong Melencio), shoot kaagad. There was time na naka score siya ng 42 points na halow 90% ang accuracy. And there was Renato Reyes, Jaime Mariano, and the young Francis Arnaiz. Not counting the exploits of the young Robert Jaworski.

 

[thegame08]

Yes, you're right si Allan. But Allan stands only at 6'1" not 6'3" but he's a demon kapag sa shooting. Same din kay Chip Engelland na mas accurate pa kay Allan Caidic. Imagine that! They are not that tall but they can pick screens and knows how to fight their way para malibre. Just like what Michael Jordan's been doing. Dribble but not so many dribbles na kagaya ni Mark Caguioa, daming dribbles. Yung tama lang tapos hanap ng butas.....SCORE!

 

 

I think kung maagang nagkaron ng three points nuon, Atoy Co would be up there sa scoring leaders (all-time). Ang hirap bantayan. Ang tindi ng "fade-away" jumpers na parang imposibleng mahabol. Nakalaro ko minsan si Atoy, ako ang guwardiya. Mapapailing ka na lang. Sina Fernandez, Paras and Guidaben, mahihirapan ngayon sa international plays, kasi looban din laro nila at ang bagal nilang mag shoot. Look at the South Koreans, walang asi asintang mtagal. kapag jump shoot, nandun na ang split-second asintahan. Ang centers natin, hirap mag dribble. Pero para sa akin, shooting, and ACCURATE shooting ang kailangan talaga na kapanahunan ni RenRen Ritualo.There was this player, Arthur Herrera nuon, bigyan mo lang ng screen (which was usually done by the late Tembong Melencio), shoot kaagad. There was time na naka score siya ng 42 points na halow 90% ang accuracy. And there was Renato Reyes, Jaime Mariano, and the young Francis Arnaiz. Not counting the exploits of the young Robert Jaworski.

 

 

Mea culpa, I really thought that Allan stands at least 6'3 back then, mataas kasi siya tignan. Ritualo could have been the player that our national team needs sa international competition but then again he is quite short para sa international competition. Also, watching the FIBA Europe on tv, it amazes me that those 6'9 pataas na players sa Europe could easily beat their man on the dribble..

[thegame08]

Yes, you're right si Allan. But Allan stands only at 6'1" not 6'3" but he's a demon kapag sa shooting. Same din kay Chip Engelland na mas accurate pa kay Allan Caidic. Imagine that! They are not that tall but they can pick screens and knows how to fight their way para malibre. Just like what Michael Jordan's been doing. Dribble but not so many dribbles na kagaya ni Mark Caguioa, daming dribbles. Yung tama lang tapos hanap ng butas.....SCORE!

 

 

I think kung maagang nagkaron ng three points nuon, Atoy Co would be up there sa scoring leaders (all-time). Ang hirap bantayan. Ang tindi ng "fade-away" jumpers na parang imposibleng mahabol. Nakalaro ko minsan si Atoy, ako ang guwardiya. Mapapailing ka na lang. Sina Fernandez, Paras and Guidaben, mahihirapan ngayon sa international plays, kasi looban din laro nila at ang bagal nilang mag shoot. Look at the South Koreans, walang asi asintang mtagal. kapag jump shoot, nandun na ang split-second asintahan. Ang centers natin, hirap mag dribble. Pero para sa akin, shooting, and ACCURATE shooting ang kailangan talaga na kapanahunan ni RenRen Ritualo.There was this player, Arthur Herrera nuon, bigyan mo lang ng screen (which was usually done by the late Tembong Melencio), shoot kaagad. There was time na naka score siya ng 42 points na halow 90% ang accuracy. And there was Renato Reyes, Jaime Mariano, and the young Francis Arnaiz. Not counting the exploits of the young Robert Jaworski.

 

 

Mea culpa, I really thought that Allan stands at least 6'3 back then, mataas kasi siya tignan. Ritualo could have been the player that our national team needs sa international competition but then again he is quite short para sa international competition. Also, watching the FIBA Europe on tv, it amazes me that those 6'9 pataas na players sa Europe could easily beat their man on the dribble..

[Goma_23]

gusto ko lang itanong mga Dudes, 3RD place lang ba ang target ng SMART-GILAS? kase pasok na daw Iran & China sa 2012 olympics?

 

thanks sa mga mag reply

[dfgvan]

nope

 

first place dapat

first place lang ang pasok sa olympics dito sa fiba asia

[khilua23]

gusto ko lang itanong mga Dudes, 3RD place lang ba ang target ng SMART-GILAS? kase pasok na daw Iran & China sa 2012 olympics?

 

thanks sa mga mag reply

 

 

kahit naman sinong team or player, as much as possible 1st place ang target.. isa lang ang pwede makapasok kaya 1st place ang target ng PHI..

[khilua23]

CHRIS LUTZ and MARCIO LASSITER have been cleared to play... Full lineup for tomorrow's game against JORDAN at 3:30pm..

[kenichi15]

come on guys even with the two filam in the lineup can you still believe we could beat china?,,,, and maybe in the future iran?,.... di naman seven footer tong dalawa.... target natin ay 3rd place n lang.... even if we play both korea and japan we will have a very difficult time matching up with them.... then there is lebanon and jordan to contend with....another match up problem for us.... e this team was form not three years ago but was form this month with the inclusion of pba players.... nasaan n mga original n players from the collegiate rank? TOROMAN know very well that we are overmatch practically in all position if face the top teams in asia.... thats why they rely heavily on marcus and players from the PBA.... even dondon hontiveros knows n mahihirapan tayo s wuhan thats why he quits citing fatigue... heck cya lang b ang naglalaro ng basketbal na ganoon katagal.... remember that players who played in the NBA played a minimum 82 games in a year if you are a starter no counting games played in the playoff....s pba max games by TNT is around 60 games and that for a team that qualify in the finals for the three conferences... kung mamalasin k at d makaqualify team mo you got to play 40 games max.... ang layo ng standard ng international competition from us.... so let stop kidding ourselves that we are still the best one on one players in asia.... i don't see any players drafted or invited by the NBA from the current roster of FILIPINO PLAYERS IN ANY LEAGUE HERE IN OUR COUNTRY

 

i believe the problem here lies that there are two legit pinoy players that were not allowed to play citing ineligibility.

 

ur gripe is about the quality of players that we have which were never invited by any nba team (off topic ka brother) or the pba players being lent to the smart gilas squad. (eh sino gusto maglaro?)

 

or better yet us beating china, lebanon, iran, south korea? cmon man, have a break, let the team do its job. bilog ang bola. may nanalo at may natatalo. whether dinadaya ka o pinupulitika ka. be a good sport.

 

criticize the game. not your country's team.

[minisushi]

Seems like bball really is a big man's game, after watchng eurobasket na realize k talaga yan. I was thnking tho y not put up a program that would include genetics? I mean maybe we coulx let asi, slaughter, marcus and japeth impregnate a tall athletic woman from say... zimbabwe or tonga? May papayag naman for sure bayaran na lang ni mvp. Imagine the future of that team? Tangkad gilas na yun! Then train them in serbia ayus yun! And maybe then, just maybe. We could start dreaming again!

[SaintPeter5858]

Why were Lutz and Lassiter disqualified?

[SaintPeter5858]

Seems like bball really is a big man's game, after watchng eurobasket na realize k talaga yan. I was thnking tho y not put up a program that would include genetics? I mean maybe we coulx let asi, slaughter, marcus and japeth impregnate a tall athletic woman from say... zimbabwe or tonga? May papayag naman for sure bayaran na lang ni mvp. Imagine the future of that team? Tangkad gilas na yun! Then train them in serbia ayus yun! And maybe then, just maybe. We could start dreaming again!

 

 

That's a joke of course. But there are other options. Team USA has no 7-footer coz the tallest is only 6'11". So they compensate it with athleticism.

[BrightestStar]

Chance for the Olympic is blurred now.

[BrightestStar]

Why were Lutz and Lassiter disqualified?

 

 

It was too late and therefore questionable.

[junix]

nice comeback and a big win by gilas. guess we can't deny the value of lassiter and lutz. i may not be very optimistic about our chances in this wuhan tournament (considering that only one slot is at stake), but hey...we are filipinos here and let's cheer for the philippine team. it's our team. let's go pilipinas!!!

[khilua23]

come on guys even with the two filam in the lineup can you still believe we could beat china?,,,, and maybe in the future iran?,.... di naman seven footer tong dalawa.... target natin ay 3rd place n lang.... even if we play both korea and japan we will have a very difficult time matching up with them.... then there is lebanon and jordan to contend with....another match up problem for us.... e this team was form not three years ago but was form this month with the inclusion of pba players.... nasaan n mga original n players from the collegiate rank? TOROMAN know very well that we are overmatch practically in all position if face the top teams in asia.... thats why they rely heavily on marcus and players from the PBA.... even dondon hontiveros knows n mahihirapan tayo s wuhan thats why he quits citing fatigue... heck cya lang b ang naglalaro ng basketbal na ganoon katagal.... remember that players who played in the NBA played a minimum 82 games in a year if you are a starter no counting games played in the playoff....s pba max games by TNT is around 60 games and that for a team that qualify in the finals for the three conferences... kung mamalasin k at d makaqualify team mo you got to play 40 games max.... ang layo ng standard ng international competition from us.... so let stop kidding ourselves that we are still the best one on one players in asia.... i don't see any players drafted or invited by the NBA from the current roster of FILIPINO PLAYERS IN ANY LEAGUE HERE IN OUR COUNTRY

 

 

well, nanalo ang GILAS over JORDAN, thanks to the defense of LUTZ and the defense/offense of LASSITER.. sa pagkawala ng dalawang ito, hindi lang 5th position ang naging kulang sa atin, pati SG position. malaking bagay ung steal ni LASSITER with 2mins left in the 4th, dahil dun nakakuha ng foul si DOUTHIT to increase their lead to four.

 

then there comes LEBANON. in the first place, kung hindi sila takot sa PHI team... bakit pa sila nagprotest? there's something in the team na alam nilang mahihirapan sila.

 

tomorrow, GILAS will face JAPAN.. whatever happens, pasok na ang team sa quarterfinals.. but still, we want to see the PHI winning..

 

we may lack in height, and these two players may lack the height you're saying... but they have the heart and the talent to defend and shoot.. and that's what we're needing right now.

[khilua23]

Why were Lutz and Lassiter disqualified?

 

nag protest ang LEBANON... kaya hindi sila pinayagan maglaro nung 1st round. pero naglaro na sila ngayon 2nd round after submitting documents para patunayan FILIPINO sila, at nabigyan na ng clearance ng FIBA to play.

[ray004]

imbes na suportahan ang sariling koponan...tsk tsk tsk

 

 

some people...haay