catsumhoto Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 ^^haha! Why don't other countries give up on soccer even if they lose every time? If you love the sport, you still play it.What sport do you want to invest in? Bowling/billiards/Boxing? Puwede din. well kasi when you play soccer you don't have to be 6 feet and 10 inches tall to get the ball that's why soccer is played world wide.... maradona is around 5'5'' or even smaller he was argentina's best during his prime.. eve the great soccer players aren't that tall i supposed the average height of soccer players is around 6 feet.... you don't see a seven footer dashing down the pitch to score... built natin is just the same as our asean neighbor with the additional skills that we had presto.... kaya we are lording it over them in terms of basketball but once we got out of the region and try to match up with our asian neighbors ayun talo n tayo s laki.. i suppose someone mentioned before that you can not teach height to your players... thats why nagkakadarapa tayo with regards to japeth e kita naman natin lahat n hilaw n hilaw cya.... he was bench by KENTUCKY because of his limited talent.... wala cya post up moves... sure he can spot up from the three but with his height coaches will rely on him to bang inside and get those rebound and follow up.... thats why toroman was sort of dissapointed with his plays... he tends to shoot from the outside rather than mixing it up inside.... Quote Link to comment
o0onapstero0o Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 gilas got clobbered by TNT... giles didn't see much action due to personal problem.... it just shows n kulang talaga tayo s center to match up aginst the bigs of asia.... you remove the american import then were no better than our asean neighbor in their quest for basketball supremacy in this part of the world.... reality check talaga for our local basketball leaders... Dapat na tlga i-sama na ulit sa line-up si Slaughter. After Giles kasi wala ng banger ang Smart-Gilas e. So what if he cant sprint as fast as Japeth. The thing is, we need a post pressence whenver Giles hit the bench and clearly, Japeth and the others cant do that. Quote Link to comment
magbubutas94 Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 The team is a work in progress, I think a lights out shooter like caidic will serve them well Quote Link to comment
catsumhoto Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 so far there none in the present line up or in any local league who can shoot the light out even if you insert ritualo, he's too small and can be easily guarded by a taller and faster player in the asian region....you need a 6'5" player wh can shoot as well as run rings around heir opponent, which incidentally we don't have even if you try to include players in the NCAA juniors who shot the light out during the past two season they still lack the height to do so.... i don't think agovida and the other guy is built for international competition. Quote Link to comment
catsumhoto Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 smart gilas was again ambush today by the gin kings.... they played very miserably without giles... and more bad news to come giles is set to leave the team for his ailing child in the USA.... so that leaves of japeth, al huseini, ramos, ballesteros to man the slot in his absence well sad news is all the above mentioned players are not you typical low post man. all of them are perimeter or jump shooter who are comfortable playing the 3 slot rather the four or five slot and that four person are quite tall compare to the players of the gin kings which incidentally outrebound the gilas team... that leaves a very big hole in the middle with the absence of giles... even if you added slaughter to the line up it is still not as intimidating because slaughter is too slow and can easily tire out.... the team is still 3-4 personel short of being formidable.... or should i say 3 - 4 fil am short of being intimidating.... although their target is to qualify for the olympics i see no future in the olympics with the present composition they maybe talented but are they talented enough.... and how sure are we that the other teams (which incidentally are taller than our players) are also beefing their lineup in prepration for the london olympics qualifying tournament. Quote Link to comment
FacelessDead Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 smart gilas was again ambush today by the gin kings.... they played very miserably without giles... and more bad news to come giles is set to leave the team for his ailing child in the USA.... so that leaves of japeth, al huseini, ramos, ballesteros to man the slot in his absence well sad news is all the above mentioned players are not you typical low post man. all of them are perimeter or jump shooter who are comfortable playing the 3 slot rather the four or five slot and that four person are quite tall compare to the players of the gin kings which incidentally outrebound the gilas team... that leaves a very big hole in the middle with the absence of giles... even if you added slaughter to the line up it is still not as intimidating because slaughter is too slow and can easily tire out.... the team is still 3-4 personel short of being formidable.... or should i say 3 - 4 fil am short of being intimidating.... although their target is to qualify for the olympics i see no future in the olympics with the present composition they maybe talented but are they talented enough.... and how sure are we that the other teams (which incidentally are taller than our players) are also beefing their lineup in prepration for the london olympics qualifying tournament.I think players from smart gilas is a young team. They need more exposure maybe give them mga 2 years to mature Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Mahihirapan ang Smart-Gilas pag wala si Giles.. Quote Link to comment
sakmobratko Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I've watch the game yesterday and as far as talent in shooting is concern, they're all threat but this team are so young.. you can see it they way they tumble in D's specially in running gun play of Gin Kings... i'm still hoping the great great TOROMAN have something to do to adjust even if no more Giles.. kc kung hindi... darating ang 2 taon at sisisihin n nman natin ang mga amateur players na ito. Quote Link to comment
badmanbegins Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 they lack in a lot of areas... skillswise, size, experience,speed, etc, this is compared to the dominant teams in asia... iran,jordan,china... i think they're not gonna make it... if they're gonna represent us in the next fiba asia championships i think we're gonna go down the rankings... that's just what i think... Quote Link to comment
silentwater Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 whoa... we seem to be always so quick on our guns... nanalo once and we hail them... natalo ng husto, which was what's expected of a young and raw yet developing team, and we bash them... lest we forget... these guys are not playing to beat the pba teams... they are preparing for a tournament which is months away from happening... and yeah... they are playing under the rules of the pba... maybe we can cut them some slack and instead just pray they are able to get ready for the real goal ahead... i wouldnt even say to give them constructive criticisms or unsolicited advices... because i dont think there is anybody here better than toroman to actually be able to give something that they dont know yet... or better than the sbp to actually not realize what kind of players they need... support and pray na lang... :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
Guest megalodon Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 (edited) and yeah... they are playing under the rules of the pba...maybe we can cut them some slack and instead just pray they are able to get ready for the real goal ahead...They are playing under the rules of the PBA but they were really trained for FIBA rules so they're the ones adjusting. There was a time when teams of the Chinese Basketball League came here for exhibition games against PBA teams. The Presto team of Caidic routed the Liaoning Lions of the CBL with a couple of national players on that team. The games were played under PBA rules so the Chinese teams had a difficult time adjusting. In my opinion, if the recent FIBA was played under the PBA rules, Powerade would have been a lock in the Top 3. Edited October 24, 2009 by megalodon Quote Link to comment
hopia_mani_papkorn Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I still believe in the team .. and I still believe that Coach Toroman is the right guy for the job ... Basketball is not all about talent .. its about commitment and teamwork .. remember MJ was already considered the greatest basketball player ... but he still needs a championship to cement his name in the annals of the game .. He doesn't have a high scoring forward ... and they don't have a big burly center who could score inside ... During the championship run ... they have a team that has great chemistry .. Still Smart Gilas is a team at work ... Lets not judge them this early .. Give the team some time to mature ... remember .. It also took Toroman like more that 3 years to develop the new powerhouse of Asian basketball ... IRAN ... Quote Link to comment
amante Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 They are playing under the rules of the PBA but they were really trained for FIBA rules so they're the ones adjusting. There was a time when teams of the Chinese Basketball League came here for exhibition games against PBA teams. The Presto team of Caidic routed the Liaoning Lions of the CBL with a couple of national players on that team. The games were played under PBA rules so the Chinese teams had a difficult time adjusting. In my opinion, if the recent FIBA was played under the PBA rules, Powerade would have been a lock in the Top 3.agree ako jan. pagtawag lang ng fouls ibang-iba na anyways, i still feel Smart Gilas should get 1 more centeror taga-kuha ng foulsat least pang-pahinga nila kay Gilesi dont think japeth or rabeh have the ceiling for the the asian scene would be an interesting starting lineup though C - CJ GilesPF - rabeh al-hussainiSF - Japeth AguilarG - Cris LutzPG - Chris Tiu Quote Link to comment
catsumhoto Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 lest we forget the hilipine team that we have sent to tianjin fail miserably.... and they do lose big to their respective opponent.... should the game with the pba team be a gauge? definitely para malaman natin yong progress natin o hindi... if we gonna use that as a gauge might as well start learning now and start changing the personnel now.... we keep on emphasizing n its a young team its on it developement stages... well d lang naman tayo ang nagpreprepare para sa asian hampionship... if we really gonna beat those team e should instead hire five to six fil-foreigners that are big and quick... this team really wont cut it... remember kahit magimprove ymga yan they still have to contend n other teams will also improve come three years time.... Quote Link to comment
kempaf Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 in years to come these guys will become mature on their game and who knows, they can be a contender. Quote Link to comment
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