Team Pilipinas Basketball

[peithe]

@Crystalyx, hindi po ako nakikipagpataasan ... am actually trying to lower expectations nga.

 

We've been talking a lot of hype about Greg. The fact of the matter is that the guy have not really proven himself. Yes he has improved but to say he's now among the best big man in Asia is still far fetch. Aguilar is supposedly better than Greg when he joined the team but have we seen any drastic improvement on his game? At the end of the day we saw SG asking for Asi's help. Ibig sabihin nun, kahit na si Asi is nearing the twilight of his career e mas may ibubuga pa siya kumpara sa dalawa at this point.

 

 

So bottomline I think hindi lang sa coach yan kundi sa player rin yan. Kahit anong galing ni coach pero wala talagang talent si player at hindi pursigido limited improvement lang ang makikita natin. Iba pa rin pag masipag ang player + may talent na hindi lang na polish at ginabayan ng magaling na coach un siguradong gagaling. Si Limpot nun 1st year sa UAAP sobrang bano pero nun 2nd year niya sobrang laki ng improvement and he went on to be one of if not the best big man in the league.

 

We can't teach height ... we've hear this phrase time and again. I believe this is true then. Remember the time of Shan Tao the gentle giant of China as well as the above 7 ft players of Japan and S. Korea who are tall but are not agile/athletic. But these players are unguardable once they are in the shaded lane since opposing players are smaller. All they need to do is tip toe for a twinner inside the paint. These days, the opposing 7 footers are not only tall but are agile and skilled as well. In this regard, I don't think the you can't teach height mentality should still weight a lot. It could be more of a liability in the end. I think I'd rather have a Barkley on my team than a Bol...I hope you guys see what I mean.

 

Going back to AVO, yes dapat isama siya sa SG team B. But to pin our hopes this early on the guy and say Marcus, Greg, Japeth and AVO will form a formidable frontline for us ... well sa SEA GAmes yes but sa FIBA Asia, these guys will face strong competition. Agree ako na kung inaasahan natin si AVO para malaki ang maitulong sa darating na FIBA ASIA ay malabo un. Time is not really with us since you still need to develop the guy.

Edited December 6, 2010 by peithe

[peithe]

Yun nga height. Sinundan ko lang naman yung sinabi mo tungkol kay Barkley at kay Bol. Can't you answer the question with a yes or no peithe? I was asking you if you'd pick Barkley over Kareem and Hakeem and not Bol over Hakeem and Kareem. Basahin mo ang post ko kasi claro naman sa post ko. Biglang aatras sa tanong kasi hindi masagot ang tanong. Diba mas matangkad din si Olajuwon at si Jabbar kay Barkley? Puro ka paligoy ligoy. Barado ka naman palibhasa.

 

 

kung height ang usapan then would you choose Bol over Barkley? hindi diba kahit sabihin mong you can't teach height at pwedeng i-develop ang skills ni Bol mas talented naman si Barkley.

 

Well madaming GM ang nagkamali sa pagpili ng matangkad over skills so "you can't teach height" should not be the end all be all of such an argument. Un height minsan un na lang ang asset ng tao.

 

Ang problema sa iyo pinipilit mong i-compare si Barkley and Hakeem na same ang talent level na. Obviously kung same talent level kunin mo un mas malaki. Pero sa isang matangkad pero hindi pulido at isang mas maliit na hamak na mas magaling dun ka na sa mas sigurado (again parehon frontcourt position po ang pinaguusapan dito)

[howarddeduct]

Ang future ng PH national basketball team ay nakasalalay sa mahalagang semilya ni Brother Amante!

[RER]

Ang future ng PH national basketball team ay nakasalalay sa mahalagang semilya ni Brother Amante!

 

 

Calling our brother Amante, you must show some heroism and nationalism, were looking for a big ladies for good breeding sa Uganda, I think may chance na ang Pinoy basketball if the plan was implimented.

 

 

Back to topic, sa mga middle eastern country, by hook or by crook ang pagpilit nilang makilala sa ibat ibang larangan ng sports.

 

Sa basketball at soccer, tanggap na nilang substandard lang ang mga local coach nila, kaya panay ang kuha nila ng de kalibreng coach/trainor. Tapos sa basketball payag silang inatrualize ang player as long as may assurance na magdadala sa kampeonato. Then may matinding private company as backer. sa sitwasyon ng SG mukhang ok na sana kung tutulong din ang government at mga local player/coach. Kung ayaw nilang mag amabag o mag represent ng bansa hayaan na nila ang naturalize player ang gumawa.

[peithe]

Hope SG could find ways to include Junmar Fajardo in the line-up.

[Megaeltati]

Yun nga height. Sinundan ko lang naman yung sinabi mo tungkol kay Barkley at kay Bol. Can't you answer the question with a yes or no peithe? I was asking you if you'd pick Barkley over Kareem and Hakeem and not Bol over Hakeem and Kareem. Basahin mo ang post ko kasi claro naman sa post ko. Biglang aatras sa tanong kasi hindi masagot ang tanong. Diba mas matangkad din si Olajuwon at si Jabbar kay Barkley? Puro ka paligoy ligoy. Barado ka naman palibhasa.

 

 

Kung sinundan mo ang sinabi about Bol and Barkley then hindi mo dapat pinasok sa usapin si Kareem at Hakeem. But anyway, matanong ko lang bakit ba sinasabing you can't teach height? Hindi po ba dahil medyo deficient ito sa ibang bagay tulad ng skills kumpara sa isang mas maliit na player? Sa binigay mong halimbawa e masasabing patas na sa galing ang dalawang players na sina Barkley o alinman kina Kareem o Hakeem. Pag ganyan ang sitwasyon NO BRAINER siyempre un mas malaki ang kunin mo. Pero hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon tama ang pagpili ng malaki. Si Jordan po na tinaguriang best player sa larangan ng basketball ay hindi number 1 pick dahil ang unang pumili sa panahong iyon mas ninais kumuha ng malaking player.

[Guest eljuego]

Kung sinundan mo ang sinabi about Bol and Barkley then hindi mo dapat pinasok sa usapin si Kareem at Hakeem. But anyway, matanong ko lang bakit ba sinasabing you can't teach height? Hindi po ba dahil medyo deficient ito sa ibang bagay tulad ng skills kumpara sa isang mas maliit na player? Sa binigay mong halimbawa e masasabing patas na sa galing ang dalawang players na sina Barkley o alinman kina Kareem o Hakeem. Pag ganyan ang sitwasyon NO BRAINER siyempre un mas malaki ang kunin mo. Pero hindi sa lahat ng pagkakataon tama ang pagpili ng malaki. Si Jordan po na tinaguriang best player sa larangan ng basketball ay hindi number 1 pick dahil ang unang pumili sa panahong iyon mas ninais kumuha ng malaking player.

With this answer, I rest my case peithe.

[catsumhoto]

can we be proud for our national team? you look at the lineup of both mens basketball and soccer team. you"ll notice that almost half of the people in both teams are foreigners (legitimate or not). what is the future of philippine sports after the great pacman?

[Megaeltati]

With this answer, I rest my case peithe.

 

 

GOOD ... as explained, I suppose you now understood na hindi dapat gamitin example si Hakeem at Kareem since both are as talented as a Barkley.

 

Well since nag-agree ka kay Lim na kunin si AVO, why not a Fajardo na lang? Dahil ba mas magaling si AVO?

Edited December 7, 2010 by Megaeltati

[Guest eljuego]

GOOD ... as explained, I suppose you now understood na hindi dapat gamitin example si Hakeem at Kareem since both are as talented as a Barkley.

 

Well since nag-agree ka kay Lim na kunin si AVO, why not a Fajardo na lang? Dahil ba mas magaling si AVO?

 

Huh? Ikaw na mismo nagsabi na no brainer na kukunin mo ang mas matangkad na kasingtalented. What are you saying now that "I suppose you now understood na hindi gamitin example si Hakeem at Kareem since both are as talented as a Barkley?"

 

I haven't heard nor read an article on Fajardo while I read about AVO. Besides, I trust Frankie Lim's recruiting instincts. Ask Frankie Lim or Toroman why theyr'e not considering Fajardo.

Edited December 7, 2010 by eljuego

[howarddeduct]

Calling our brother Amante, you must show some heroism and nationalism, were looking for a big ladies for good breeding sa Uganda, I think may chance na ang Pinoy basketball if the plan was implimented.

May mga nakaline-up na para kay Brother Amante! Tall women from Nigeria, Cameroon, Zimbabwe, Angola, Ghana, Ethiopia, Namibia and Congo. Maswerteng mama itong si Amante!

 

20 year program ito para sa ikauunlad ng ating national basketball team.

[Megaeltati]

Huh? Ikaw na mismo nagsabi na no brainer na kukunin mo ang mas matangkad na kasingtalented. What are you saying now that "I suppose you now understood na hindi gamitin example si Hakeem at Kareem since both are as talented as a Barkley?"

 

I haven't heard nor read an article on Fajardo while I read about AVO. Besides, I trust Frankie Lim's recruiting instincts. Ask Frankie Lim or Toroman why theyr'e not considering Fajardo.

 

Selective reading ka na naman sa sinulat ko ... just goes to show selective reasoning na naman ginagawa mo. Pero since sinabi mong you rest your case, so be it kung hindi mo naintindihan ang pinagsasabi mo sa mga sinabi ko.

 

Ayan na ba sinasabi ko e ... are you sure hindi nila naconsider si Fajardo or hindi mo lang nabasa kasi.

[amante]

can we be proud for our national team? you look at the lineup of both mens basketball and soccer team. you"ll notice that almost half of the people in both teams are foreigners (legitimate or not). what is the future of philippine sports after the great pacman?

 

what is the future of philippine sports after the great pacman?

 

SEMILYA, mula sa Puso

 

A 20-year program designed to breed natural born Pinoy athletes using one-half of the genes from the most talented and athletic female athletes in the world.

 

Kahit milyones ang nasa puson ko ngayon, hindi ko kakayanin mag-isa. Kailangan ko ang tulong ninyo.

 

Sumali na! Makilahok!

 

SEMILYA, mula sa Puso for the future of the Philippine Olympic Basketball Dream

[launchpad]

suggestion brother amante

 

if you met tongan or samoana people i think they are the best, they have huge bodies and large muscles! imagine rugby players are compose mostly of this guys.

 

imagine that plus ung semilya ng pinoy we might be able to breed the next thing in phil basketball history!!! wahoooo!!!

 

go go bro amante!!!

[Guest eljuego]

Selective reading ka na naman sa sinulat ko ... just goes to show selective reasoning na naman ginagawa mo. Pero since sinabi mong you rest your case, so be it kung hindi mo naintindihan ang pinagsasabi mo sa mga sinabi ko.

 

Ayan na ba sinasabi ko e ... are you sure hindi nila naconsider si Fajardo or hindi mo lang nabasa kasi.

As I said, I don't know who Fajardo is. Selective reasoning? Bakit si Manute Bol ang itatapat mo kay Barkley? Dapat yung tinatapat mo si Olajuwon at Jabbar coz both have been MVPs like Barkley, not to mention multiple time all-stars. Why don't you use peithe? Do you fear that peithe will be canned?

Edited December 8, 2010 by eljuego