butete12 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 i would like to ask a question. i would like to push though with my annulment process (nagiipon pa) yung tita ko kasi nag uutus sa akin sa ngayon ng isang separation agreement. meaning isang kasulatan na pwede ipa notario na nagkakasundo kaming mag hiwalay without issues .tulad ng pag aari-pwede ilagay dun sa agreement na walang habulan sa pag aaritungkulin sa bata(anak)- pwede ilagay dun na hati kami sa suporta ng bata ano silbi nito? may power ba ito for the annulment case ?makakatulong? nag back read ako at napansin ko nakalagay e pwede gawing pareho kami may psychological incapacity? so dapat kakasuhan ko sya at dapat kasuhan nya ako ? tama ba pag kakaintindi ko? Quote Link to comment
DDL Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) pre, i think there's some i would like to ask a question. i would like to push though with my annulment process (nagiipon pa) yung tita ko kasi nag uutus sa akin sa ngayon ng isang separation agreement. meaning isang kasulatan na pwede ipa notario na nagkakasundo kaming mag hiwalay without issues .tulad ng pag aari-pwede ilagay dun sa agreement na walang habulan sa pag aaritungkulin sa bata(anak)- pwede ilagay dun na hati kami sa suporta ng bata ano silbi nito? may power ba ito for the annulment case ?makakatulong? nag back read ako at napansin ko nakalagay e pwede gawing pareho kami may psychological incapacity? so dapat kakasuhan ko sya at dapat kasuhan nya ako ? tama ba pag kakaintindi ko? Pre, i think there's something wrong in your plan. better consult a legal expert first. That agreement will not help you in annulment. There are only 3 laws covering marriage in Phil, Annulment, Legal Separation and Void Marriage. Legal Separation - if one of the spouses or the children were endangered, parang pinapayagan ng batas na maghiwalay kayo at sine-set nila ung terms ng paghihiwalay. pero dito kasal pa rin kayo, meaning di pwede magpakasal ulit. kung hindi, pwede ka kasuhan ng bigamy. example kung kailan pwede ito, kung nakulong ung asawa mo for 5 yrs or more, may alcohol/drug problem, homosexual, commits adultery, etc. dito the marriage is still valid, and you can't re-marry unless the marriage is void or annulled. Annulment - meaning hindi talaga valid ung marriage in the first place. dito na papasok ung madalas nila ginagamit na psychological incapacity, that the person was not mentally fit nung time na kinasal kayo. mahirap patunayan ito. dito rin papasok ung fraud, incurable STD, or impotence na itinago sa partner before marriage, or ung unconsented marriage for 21 yrs or below. Void - dito naman sinasabi na void ang marriage kung below 18 ung party/ies nung kinasal or hindi authorized ung nagkasal. So pre ung ginagawa nyong doc hindi papasok sa any of the 3 choices above. Siguro it'll stand in court as a "pre-separation-agreement" ninyong magasawa in case isa sa inyo mag-file ng legal separation with a basis. saka hindi mo kakasuhan ng psychological capacity ang isang tao, hindi naman bawal sa batas ang maging psychologically incapacitated. ginagamit nyo lang ung term na psychological incapacity as a ground for annulment. Edited January 30, 2015 by DDL Quote Link to comment
BRAIN FOR HIRE Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 i would like to ask a question. i would like to push though with my annulment process (nagiipon pa) yung tita ko kasi nag uutus sa akin sa ngayon ng isang separation agreement. meaning isang kasulatan na pwede ipa notario na nagkakasundo kaming mag hiwalay without issues .tulad ng pag aari-pwede ilagay dun sa agreement na walang habulan sa pag aaritungkulin sa bata(anak)- pwede ilagay dun na hati kami sa suporta ng bata ano silbi nito? may power ba ito for the annulment case ?makakatulong? nag back read ako at napansin ko nakalagay e pwede gawing pareho kami may psychological incapacity? so dapat kakasuhan ko sya at dapat kasuhan nya ako ? tama ba pag kakaintindi ko? Since collusion is something which prevents annulment, that will be proof you are colluding and will probably weaken the case. madami ng nagtry ng ganyan sa notary- it could be illegal based on the wordings therein, and many notaries have been disbarred because of that. Quote Link to comment
chups10 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 i would like to ask a question. i would like to push though with my annulment process (nagiipon pa) yung tita ko kasi nag uutus sa akin sa ngayon ng isang separation agreement. meaning isang kasulatan na pwede ipa notario na nagkakasundo kaming mag hiwalay without issues .tulad ng pag aari-pwede ilagay dun sa agreement na walang habulan sa pag aaritungkulin sa bata(anak)- pwede ilagay dun na hati kami sa suporta ng bata ano silbi nito? may power ba ito for the annulment case ?makakatulong? nag back read ako at napansin ko nakalagay e pwede gawing pareho kami may psychological incapacity? so dapat kakasuhan ko sya at dapat kasuhan nya ako ? tama ba pag kakaintindi ko? Will answer without legalese ano silbi nito? Walang silbi, hindi naayon sa batas yung ganitong agreement. hindi mo din magagamit na ebidensya sa annulment case. May power ba sa annulment case?refer to answer above makakatulong?hindi nag back read ako at napansin ko nakalagay e pwede gawing pareho kami may psychological incapacity? so dapat kakasuhan ko sya at dapat kasuhan nya ako ? tama ba pag kakaintindi ko?il answer using an example supreme court decision, si amy perez (the artista / broadcaster) nagfile first ng annulment, psychological incapacitated daw si brix ferraris..dineny ng supreme court, kasi yung hindi pagkakasundo ng mag asawa hindi sapat para maituring na psychological incapacitynow nakapagpakasal siya diba (amy perez), kasi nagfile siya ulit, siya na daw ang psychological incapacitated. pwedeng ikaw, pwedeng siya, though i suggest wag sabay para pwede magfile uli if ever na hindi pwede. hope this helps Quote Link to comment
Ricefarmer Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 mga sirs pano kung di makaanak? valid po ba un? Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sadly, this is not a ground for AnnulmentGrounds are1. Homosexuality2. Incurable sexual disease3. Psychological Incapacity mga sirs pano kung di makaanak? valid po ba un? Quote Link to comment
chups10 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 mga sirs pano kung di makaanak? valid po ba un?SADLY NOT A GROUND Quote Link to comment
Ricefarmer Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 oh well.... thanks for the replys Quote Link to comment
evilson Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Guys, pwedeng humingi ng advice sa inyo kung anong sasabihin ko sa aunt ko Ganito kasi sitwasyon: my aunt, staying at macao, plans to remary a german national in order to get an marrage visa.Pero she has a child and she still married to my uncle who is now bedridden, in addition tumutuloy na siya sa kanyang kabit for almost more than three months na.On that note, me contact si aunt ke uncle via her child, ang last communitation nila is almost six months ago, bago sya kinuha ng kabit nya.Base sa last communication namin between my pamangkin, di na yata sya makapagdesisyon ng matino at medyo humihina naI dont know much about government pension, pero ang pagakakaalam ko, si aunty pa rin (since sya ang legitimate wife at me hawak syang NSO marrage certificate) ang benificary, since nasa legal age na ang kanyang anak My aunt ask my opinion about this, pero binigyan ko lang sya ng 2 option1. pwede nyang i annuled ang marrage nilang dalawa in order to get a CENMAR (certificate of no marrage), but since pensyonado si unlce, possibleng mawala sya sa benificiary pag ginawa nya ito2. hintayin nya na lang na mamatay si uncle so that ang idedeclare sa death certificate nya is si aunt ang widdow, at sya pa rin ang magiging benificiary ng kanyang pensyon at hindi ang kabit nya at base sa usapan namin, parang ang unang option ang gusto nya, ang di ko lang masagot sa kanya are the following:1. How much and how long it will take to get annuled, at meron bang mas mura dito2. Pano namin ito lalakarin, kasi since nasa macao sya parang ako na ang magiging middle man niya3. I dont know kung valid ito sa question ng annulment, pero posible ba na ilipat ni uncle sa kanyang kabit ang kanyang pension if matutuloy ang annulment at pano namin mapreprevent ito4. Is there any other option maliban sa mga binigay ko na mas mabilis pa dito, parang nagmamadali kasi ang german national e Quote Link to comment
chups10 Posted April 10, 2015 Share Posted April 10, 2015 Guys, pwedeng humingi ng advice sa inyo kung anong sasabihin ko sa aunt ko Ganito kasi sitwasyon: my aunt, staying at macao, plans to remary a german national in order to get an marrage visa.Pero she has a child and she still married to my uncle who is now bedridden, in addition tumutuloy na siya sa kanyang kabit for almost more than three months na.On that note, me contact si aunt ke uncle via her child, ang last communitation nila is almost six months ago, bago sya kinuha ng kabit nya.Base sa last communication namin between my pamangkin, di na yata sya makapagdesisyon ng matino at medyo humihina naI dont know much about government pension, pero ang pagakakaalam ko, si aunty pa rin (since sya ang legitimate wife at me hawak syang NSO marrage certificate) ang benificary, since nasa legal age na ang kanyang anak My aunt ask my opinion about this, pero binigyan ko lang sya ng 2 option1. pwede nyang i annuled ang marrage nilang dalawa in order to get a CENMAR (certificate of no marrage), but since pensyonado si unlce, possibleng mawala sya sa benificiary pag ginawa nya ito2. hintayin nya na lang na mamatay si uncle so that ang idedeclare sa death certificate nya is si aunt ang widdow, at sya pa rin ang magiging benificiary ng kanyang pensyon at hindi ang kabit nya at base sa usapan namin, parang ang unang option ang gusto nya, ang di ko lang masagot sa kanya are the following:1. How much and how long it will take to get annuled, at meron bang mas mura dito2. Pano namin ito lalakarin, kasi since nasa macao sya parang ako na ang magiging middle man niya3. I dont know kung valid ito sa question ng annulment, pero posible ba na ilipat ni uncle sa kanyang kabit ang kanyang pension if matutuloy ang annulment at pano namin mapreprevent ito4. Is there any other option maliban sa mga binigay ko na mas mabilis pa dito, parang nagmamadali kasi ang german national eANSWERS1 USUALLY,MGA 2 TO 3 YEARS..IN AN IDEAL SITUATION HA..PERO PAG HINDI,MGA 5 TO 6 YEARS.. MALAS MO PA PAG INAPPEAL NG OSG.. PRICING DEPENDS,BIG FIRMS UP TO 1M,PAGPINAGSAMA NA ANG LAHAT NG FEES..NEW PRACTITIONERS,MAPAGUUSAPAN..2 Quote Link to comment
JackKirby Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Any recommendation for a good annulment lawyers and ideas on the fees? Quote Link to comment
chups10 Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Any recommendation for a good annulment lawyers and ideas on the fees?GOOD IS ACTUALLY SUBJECTIVE.. DEFINE GOOD Quote Link to comment
kobejacksingh Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm still wondering why divorce ain't allowed in the Philippines. I mean it's the 21st century, I think it's time to push for it in the congress. Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 You may try PAO as they might recommend you some relevant info Any recommendation for a good annulment lawyers and ideas on the fees? Quote Link to comment
b00mbug Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 annulment will usually cost around 250k-300k in legal fees. not lump sum though. Quote Link to comment
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