hobby Practical Shooting

[dos8dos]

^some gun range allow guns to be deposited for the duration of the gun ban, owners drop by the range to shoot their guns & keep their guns back to the range safe

[arvinix]

^some gun range allow guns to be deposited for the duration of the gun ban, owners drop by the range to shoot their guns & keep their guns back to the range safe

I believe this is true. One of the places you can do this is at PB Dionisio's Range in SFDM QC.

[miggyE]

sa alam ko, the armscor ranges in parang and makati also have several in different calibers

[miggyE]

angat ko lang

[mikimiki]

newbie here.

a friend invited me one time to test fire his new AR-15. also got a hold of a beretta Px4 storm and a Sig mosquito.

I was hooked. Sarap mag firing especially pag tinatamaan yung target. hehe.

Now i want my own gun, im intending it for home defense and fun shooting.

im more inclined to get a Sig of my own pero sabi niya its too small. (mura lang kasi bala)

d ko gusto yung beretta niya, masyado malakas recoil. d ako makatama.

im thinking of getting probably a 9mm beretta na full size or a glock17.

any comments? TIA

[miggyE]

newbie here.

a friend invited me one time to test fire his new AR-15. also got a hold of a beretta Px4 storm and a Sig mosquito.

I was hooked. Sarap mag firing especially pag tinatamaan yung target. hehe.

Now i want my own gun, im intending it for home defense and fun shooting.

im more inclined to get a Sig of my own pero sabi niya its too small. (mura lang kasi bala)

d ko gusto yung beretta niya, masyado malakas recoil. d ako makatama.

im thinking of getting probably a 9mm beretta na full size or a glock17.

any comments? TIA

 

 

sir mikimiki, it would depend on your budget, if you plan to compete with it, or for just plinking and home defense. as for the two you mentioned, glocks are now hard to find in the market, with the gun shows getting delayed shipments of 6 weeks to 6 months. as for beretta, most berettas currently available are surplus and are of questionable quality. the PX4 your friend has is supposed to be one of their better models....

[mikimiki]

Sir miggye,

Its just for fun shooting and defense na din. I want your opinion on the shooting side of it.

Im a beginner, that was my first time on a range. I would like to get one with less recoil

and a quite smaller grip than the PX4. Medyo malaki yun eh. Although I have an above

average hand size, parang hirap ako hawakan eh. Any inputs on the Glock17 or any other

pistols that might be on your list?

 

Is it true that if you shoot someone with a 22 cal

it wont matter. So it wont be a good buy for a home defense gun?

 

TIA

[miggyE]

Sir miggye,

Its just for fun shooting and defense na din. I want your opinion on the shooting side of it.

Im a beginner, that was my first time on a range. I would like to get one with less recoil

and a quite smaller grip than the PX4. Medyo malaki yun eh. Although I have an above

average hand size, parang hirap ako hawakan eh. Any inputs on the Glock17 or any other

pistols that might be on your list?

 

Is it true that if you shoot someone with a 22 cal

it wont matter. So it wont be a good buy for a home defense gun?

 

TIA

 

 

sorry for the late reply, mikimiki. actually, i consider a .22lr a good home defense round. no matter what some people say, i have seen a lot of dead bodies with this bullet as the cause of death. if you consider that the Mossad issues 22lr pistols to their agents because of the concealability and the fact that its easier to silence carries a lot of weight in my opinion. fact is, however, that if you shoot someone with a 22, if you don't hit him in the head, you better make sure you place at least 4 rounds inside his torso, as this gun usually has little knock-down power. on the plus side, its a cheap, reliable, accurate, round, on the downside, be ready to keep pulling the trigger. an uncle of mine once got into a fight and all he had was his beretta 22. he placed 5 shots into the guy just to make sure.

 

what i usually recommend, however, is a bullet in the 35-38 caliber range. this includes .357, .357magnum, .38special, .380, .357, 9mm, and super .38. current affordable ones in the market i would recommend are the Bersa Thunders( in .380 slim and hi-cap, and in 9mm and .40), Armscor/Tanfoglio( the AP9 and Force Combat is the same gun!), and i have seen some Kahr slim 9mms in some shops. Norinco and Armscors are very much available.

 

slightly more expensive, but very reliable are the CZs and the Glocks. i would advice that you go window shopping before you buy. check the grip and weight of the gun to your hand. for grip and reliability, you might prefer a revolver. also go from shop to shop before you buy, as the prices could vary. remember that some are also the exclusive importers, while others are just shops.

[daemonknight]

Mga Gentle Guniacs,

Gandang Bagong Taon Po sa inyong lahat, Ask ko lang po kung familiar kyo sa nabili kong baril i got this gun from TRUE WEIGHT i got a great access to one of them,,, nagkaroon ako ng chance to have or purchase this gun from them.. its a .22 short ammo STI enforce Rifle semi automatic with 10 rd mag... according to my brother who is the Chief range officer from PPSC, ang ganda daw ng rifle he can shoot it in a great distance with accuracy, ask ko lang bakit wala manlang review to sa internet, according to TW its a limited rifle mean iilan lang ginawa nito... ill post the pic po.... wala na kong ginalaw d2 except additional Harris bipods, and a Nikon Monarch Scope....

 

Here the complete specs...

Caliber .22 Long Rifle

Barrel 21” progressive twist, threaded, crowned, bull

Receiver Patented Aluminum w/ clean out hole to accept threaded barrel

Trigger Assembly Patented Adjustable SuperMatch w/ "Quick” Mag release

Overall Length approx. 40” w/ stock

Weight approx. 7 pounds w/ stock

Finish Natural Stainless and Aluminum

Competition Approvals Team Challenge, Etc.

 

 

 

CURIOUS LANG AKO SIR - WHAT MODEL OF NIKON RIFLESCOPE DO YOU HAVE?

[daemonknight]

Looking for brand new or slightly used NIKON or BUSHNELL riflescopes, variable power up to at least 9x maginification. Please post pictures, prices.

 

Thanks

[daemonknight]

newbie here.

a friend invited me one time to test fire his new AR-15. also got a hold of a beretta Px4 storm and a Sig mosquito.

I was hooked. Sarap mag firing especially pag tinatamaan yung target. hehe.

Now i want my own gun, im intending it for home defense and fun shooting.

im more inclined to get a Sig of my own pero sabi niya its too small. (mura lang kasi bala)

d ko gusto yung beretta niya, masyado malakas recoil. d ako makatama.

im thinking of getting probably a 9mm beretta na full size or a glock17.

any comments? TIA

 

 

 

If you want a gun for purely for home defense purposes, get a shotgun. It's cheap, reliable and needs only modicum of training to master. If you want a gun that you can have fun with, get a .22lr rifle with a scope - I can guarantee you that you'll have hours and hours of fun shooting it. If you want a defensive gun that you can also compete in, get a production division pistol - either a 9mm, .40 cal or .45 cal. Any lower caliber will negate the defensive purpose of the pistol.

 

The recoil is a matter of gun handling and not an issue of the handgun caliber. If you are gripping your handgun properly, then the recoil will not really matter at all. You will have to get proper training to master the grip, the stance, the sight picture and the trigger squeeze which all determines how you accurately shoot your handgun. PROPER TRAINING IS OF PARAMOUNT IMPORTANCE WHENEVER YOU DECIDE TO BUY A FIREARM. Don't even think you can learn how to shoot firearms properly - specially if you are a beginner - from books or videos or heaven forbid - the movies.

 

Forget revolvers - they may be easier to shoot, but you are only limited to six rounds and reloading a revolver under stress can be infuriating. Get a pistol - they are more reliable now than they were in the 1960s and 1970s when they were notorious for jamming. Yes, you can do fatal damage to a person with a .22 caliber, absolutely no recoil pistol with five rounds in the torso, but how long do you think your opponent can aim back at you and shoot after you have fired the first round? And can you fire your second and third round of .22s while staring down the barrel of a large bore pistol? How many rounds do you think you can absorb of the 9mm, .40 cal or .45 cal before you get incapacitated enough not be able to accurately return fire? It is always a balance of speed, power and accuracy.

 

Yes, the MOSSAD used to issue .22s to their agents - but it is used mostly because of its concealability and ease to silence. To be effective, you have to use the .22 up close and personal - practically at face-slapping distance and when your target is completely unaware.

 

If you want a defensive AND a competition pistol, get a full-sized model. Don't f#&k around with compacts and sub-compact models. As to the brand or model - how much can you afford. If money is no problem, get the STI GP6 or the CZ SPO1 pistols - they're the latest and the best that money can buy. If it's too pricey, get the Glocks, the CZs, the Berrettas or the Tangfolios. Still too expensive? Buy a basic model Armscor pistol and build it up as often as you save money. I've handled a well-tuned 9mm armscor that out-performed my trusty old Glock 17.

[mikimiki]

Thanks sirs for the generous info. Still would need to do a great deal of research before buying.

Revolvers are not my list.

 

Be going back to the range this month to try out some other pistols that my friends have.

 

Thanks again and god bless.

[miggyE]

as you can see, mikimiki, ask a firearm people about handguns, they will give you different answers. its all about preference. take me, for example. it may be sacrilege to some here, but i simply don't like Glocks. it's simply because i prefer a handgun with a manual safety, just that.

[ray004]

PPF is back online!

 

http://www.pinoy1911.net/forum/index.php

[mikimiki]

as you can see, mikimiki, ask a firearm people about handguns, they will give you different answers. its all about preference. take me, for example. it may be sacrilege to some here, but i simply don't like Glocks. it's simply because i prefer a handgun with a manual safety, just that.

 

Yeah, I noticed while doing some research on the net. Thanks for all your inputs.