Richmond Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Without consistent outside threat they allowed TNT to clog the inside forcing them to put up poor shot selections Quote Link to comment
Soraoi_empire Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Lumakas lalo yung mga ugong sa Pagtrade kay Greg... Nabasa nyo ba yung mga tweets ni Snow Badua? Â Â Abueva, Belo and 1st Draft Pick (Isaac Go) yung hinahabol ng Ginebra.. Quote Link to comment
Gringo* Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 may part ng mind ko na ayaw trade si Greg kc pag all filipino cup dominante sya kaso SUPER SLOWter tlaga sya at parang everytime na may mali sya.. tumitingin sya sa bench na parang nangangapa. SO if I to choose now. Trade ko sa columbian dyip (SMC farm team) to get CJ Perez plus 2019 1st round pick (Isaac Go) takbuhan na tlga laro ngayon kahit sa NBA athletic bigman (Giannis/Embid) ang nakakasabay. Just imagine Pringle/Thompson/CJ Perez/Japhet/Isaac Go..takbuhan ito.. OPINION ONLY mga kabs Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 In my wish list naman si Jason Brickman... a pure point guard na understudy ni LA (he's not gettin any younger) Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I don't blame greg... but I wish he could have done better... si tj at jbl just cancelled out each other... yung locals ang naging key para sa akin.. and a better playing greg would have been the gins best bet in dominating the series... Â Yeah, yung locals talaga importante sa team. Just watching the finals series between TNT and SMB, talagang importante ang mga locals para manalo. It is a must to have a potent outside shooting to win a championship. Ang TNT nga, mas marami silang outside shoots kesa sa loob. A thing that is lacking in the Gins arsenal. I guess CTC should not rely heavily on his triangle offense and learn to have outside shooting more. 1 Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 may part ng mind ko na ayaw trade si Greg kc pag all filipino cup dominante sya kaso SUPER SLOWter tlaga sya at parang everytime na may mali sya.. tumitingin sya sa bench na parang nangangapa. SO if I to choose now. Trade ko sa columbian dyip (SMC farm team) to get CJ Perez plus 2019 1st round pick (Isaac Go) takbuhan na tlga laro ngayon kahit sa NBA athletic bigman (Giannis/Embid) ang nakakasabay. Just imagine Pringle/Thompson/CJ Perez/Japhet/Isaac Go..takbuhan ito.. OPINION ONLY mga kabsI agree with you na kailangan running bigmen, pero i think key rin ang me traditional dominant center... greg has a very reliable mid range jumper that he can work to his advantage... yung running bigmen, the gins have japeth, prince, raymond and jdv... ka combinasyon naman sila ni greg... ang sa akin, the coaching and training staff should maximize greg...surround him with good shooters and cutters... and decide whether bulk up slow greg sila or lean but easy-to-push greg... I think the rest of the league had already adjusted to the tall line up of ginebra, its time for tim to adjust...  I am not a fan of the triangle, a proper zone can defend it... they need shooters and wing defenders... they need to close out the threes and use raymond and prince more often... A trade for cj would be good pero i am not sure kung papayagan... 1 Quote Link to comment
torresicecube Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Ako mga kabs for my opinion, kelangan ni Greg ng isang trainer na tututukan sya like Danny I, Marlou Aquino or any bigs na may galaw sa ilalim. Kita nyo naman ang ikinaganda ng galaw ni JunMar at ni Vic Manuel parehas nahawakan ni Danny I, nag iba ang kilos sa ilalim... 2 Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Ako mga kabs for my opinion, kelangan ni Greg ng isang trainer na tututukan sya like Danny I, Marlou Aquino or any bigs na may galaw sa ilalim. Kita nyo naman ang ikinaganda ng galaw ni JunMar at ni Vic Manuel parehas nahawakan ni Danny I, nag iba ang kilos sa ilalim... I agree! Train slaughter kesa i trade! Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 Nakakalungkot lang kasi na sa dami ng mga naicontribute dati ni Lakay Danny sa San Miguel, basta basta na lang siya itinapon. Hindi man lang pinahalagahan yung naging kontribusyon niya. Sana man lang kahit isa sa mga sister team ng SMC ang nakinabang sa kanya. Kung sa Ginebra lang sana, nadevelop niya si Slaughter gaya ng ginawa niya kay Fajardo. Ang resulta, Vic Manuel pa ang kanyang naging masterpeice sa Alaska. Nung college sila sa Cebu, dominanteng dominante ni Slaughter si Fajardo. Pero ngayon baliktad ang nangyari.Lakay irritated yata smc ng nag comment sya negatively when danny seigle and dondon hontiveros were traded... maanghang yata ang mga comments nya... similar to iguodala's comments na nakaoffend sa managment... Why don't ginebra try erik menk? Jerry codinera? Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 I have been lobbying for the tower of power to train Gregzilla for the longest time. Even sent messages to twitter accounts of a lot of BGSM players, coaches, staff and even AFC but i dont know why hindi ginagawa. Nasa SMC umbrella si Paras playing for San Miguel Legends Quote Link to comment
Maj Mujtaba Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 si Del Rosario  I have been lobbying for the tower of power to train Gregzilla for the longest time. Even sent messages to twitter accounts of a lot of BGSM players, coaches, staff and even AFC but i dont know why hindi ginagawa. Nasa SMC umbrella si Paras playing for San Miguel Legends si Del Rosario kasi trainer ni Gregzilla, hehe Quote Link to comment
Yoda18 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Ilang buwan nang hot topic dito si Greg ah . Nag-umpisang bumagsak laro nya mula nang tinanggal sya ni Yeng Guiao sa Gilas pool. Bakit naman kasi in 5 minutes sumuko agad si Guiao sa kanya? Parang nawalan sya ng gana mula noon. I just checked his career stats during the year he had his first major injury pang MVP yung stats nya(19 ppg and 11 rpg). Sa totoo lang kundi lang talaga nag step up si Scottie sya ang Finals MVP in last years Commisioners cup. Just my personal opinion but I don't intend to argue. Once upon a time he was the better and more agile player than JMF. Nag Asian Games na pala sya nung 2010.Pero the following year imbes na magtuloy tuloy yung programa sa kanya nag Ateneo nalang(they were targeting 4-peat then). Si Junemar, hilaw pa nag pro nung 2012 pero na mentor sya ni Lakay on top of that natuto din kay Blatche during the World cup, Greg hinog na nung time na yun kaso habol nila maka 5-peat kaya nagpabulok muna sa amateurs. I have nothing against Ateneo pero special players di pwedeng iburo sa mababang level ng laro, parang Adducul na nag overstaying naman sa MBA. Buti nalang they are not committing the same mistake on Kai Sotto. Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 If I may add also na nawala narin yung high-low play ng GSM para kay Slaughter and Aguilar, if I can recall it correctly when that was the main weapon for GSM; Gregzilla was producing good stats for the team. I wonder why this high-low play is not being utilized by CTC anymore? not even in the elims.Come to think of it, the 3 guard combo should be a good tool in feeding the bigs in Greg and Japeth. Quote Link to comment
La Casa De Spakoli Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 for me its better to trade greg right now, hangga't may value pa sya.. malabo na siguro magbago laro nyan kase ang tgal nya na rin sa PBA.. perfect trade for me is greg+dela cruz(injury prone) to PHO for abueva+1st yr round pick/ NP sean anthony & Mo tautuaa/1st round pick. Quote Link to comment
Maj Mujtaba Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 for me its better to trade greg right now, hangga't may value pa sya.. malabo na siguro magbago laro nyan kase ang tgal nya na rin sa PBA.. perfect trade for me is greg+dela cruz(injury prone) to PHO for abueva+1st yr round pick/ NP sean anthony & Mo tautuaa/1st round pick. huwag na kay ABUEVA over naman kung Sean Anthony & Mo Tautuaa, OK na ako sa Mo Tautuaa lang Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Ako mga kabs for my opinion, kelangan ni Greg ng isang trainer na tututukan sya like Danny I, Marlou Aquino or any bigs na may galaw sa ilalim. Kita nyo naman ang ikinaganda ng galaw ni JunMar at ni Vic Manuel parehas nahawakan ni Danny I, nag iba ang kilos sa ilalim... Â Kung 'di na pwede si Danny I., bakit hindi nila subukan si E-Menk or maybe Jun Limpot na maganda din naman ang galaw/foot work, ang alam ko si Jun ang nagturo kay Arnold Van Opstal noong time na nasa DLSU pa si AVO na nasayang lang ang career sa PBA. Also, sana kunin s'ya ng Ginebra kung free agent na s'ya Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Why the focus oo n Greg?In their last series with TNT, they were outplayed on all positions. Especially, sa outside shooting. Kahit pa si Olajuwon mag-train kay Greg, lalamunin lang ng better outside shooting team (i.e. TNT and SMB) ang Gins. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Why the focus oo n Greg?In their last series with TNT, they were outplayed on all positions. Especially, sa outside shooting. Kahit pa si Olajuwon mag-train kay Greg, lalamunin lang ng better outside shooting team (i.e. TNT and SMB) ang Gins.Well i think most of us believe that greg underperformed he is still one of the gins biggest asset... If he was dominant enough, he could have made TJ's life more difficult, single coverage lang pag sumasaksak eliminating some assist to the wings, and TJ will have to work extra hard on defense... You are probably correct in saying that they were outplayed in all position but i think it all eminated from TJ dominating the center position... yes our JB dominated the 3 position but he had lacked the inside support that greg normally provides Quote Link to comment
Richmond Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Totoo kaya ito ???? Quote Link to comment
junix Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Totoo kaya ito ????Kung totoo ito, maganda sa ginebra yan... but honestly mukhang lugi ang blackwater diyan. Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) Kung totoo ito, maganda sa ginebra yan... but honestly mukhang lugi ang blackwater diyan.I agree... Â Good for our team, but I dunno if Kume will approve this. Remember that Rayray just topped the previous conference league in statistics and Greg had a not so good performance. Tapos may sweetener pa na Mac Belo. Edited August 17, 2019 by artedpro Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Kung totoo ito, maganda sa ginebra yan... but honestly mukhang lugi ang blackwater diyan.  Kapag nangyari talaga ang trade na yan at hindi fair ang palitan, PBA sucks na talaga. Hindi na balanse ang kompetisyon.  I agree...  Good for our team, but I dunno if Kume will approve this. Remember that Rayray just topped the previous conference league in statistics and Greg had a not so good performance. Tapos may sweetener pa na Mac Belo.  Magandang problema yan para sa Gin Kings ( kung totoo man yan) ang hinde lang maganda dyan ay yung mga past acquisition nila like kay JD,Sargent,R.Aguilar at iba pa...kahit na kay Dela Cruz may epekto din sa playing time nya yan.+ 1 din ako sa pagiging hinde balance nyan trade deal( if ever is is true)... Quote Link to comment
will robie Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Kung totoo ito, maganda sa ginebra yan... but honestly mukhang lugi ang blackwater diyan.I checked it out. So far, it's just a rumor. Parks is a franchise player while Slaughter is a borderline franchise player at best. I agree, chief. Lugi Blackwater kung totoo nga. However, Ginebra won't have anyone to defend Fajardo when SMB and GSM go head to head in a finals series. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Japeth can defend junmar... he had shown that before... although i am not for trading greg... train him... allow him to get better... he is legit but lacks the right direction... Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Kailan 3rd conference? Quote Link to comment
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