darksoulriver Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 masalimuot ang laro kanina... still no defense answer on the pass 3pt shot. Coach Tim still have 1 whole day to make a drastic change on the defensive end or else BGK ass will be swoop hard Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Maganda talaga yung depensa ng TNT, hirap si Brownlee at Stan. Sabayan pa din ni Coach Tim ng walang kamatayang 3 guard combo...mahihirapan talaga madepend yung 3's ng TNT...Malalaki yung shooters ng TNT so disadvantage sa Ginkings kahit sino sa tatlong guard ang pumik-up kay Pogoy o Rosario. Namayani si Troy sa ilalim at magaganda pasa ni TJ. Also yung JDV and the rest of the team kanina...maraming pagkakataon na ititira na lang pinapasa pa...ayun tuloy na aagaw.71 points in 4 quarters tells it all! maganda depensa ng TNT samahan mo pa ng malas ang Ginebra. Bawi na lang sa game 3 and then one game at a time uli tayo. Remember: Di tayo bumitaw nung kang kong team pa tayo...ngayon pa kaya Ampalaya na lang(mapait na masarap)ang daming dribble...puro pasa...ayaw tumira. anak ng puto @#*! samantala dun sa kabila, basta libre, kahit sa tres, ititira na. yung slaughter, mukhang wala nang pag-asa yan. nag deteriorate na ang laro. a big guy who cannot even dominate tsk tsk tsk Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Di pa naman huli ang lahat...we loss the battle today but not the war. Come Tuesday we will see how CTC adjusted and hopefully can get that Game 3 win...break through win lang need natin. Ginebra have the tools to win back-to-back games and this series is no different. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 seems like everybody in the TnT lineup is licensed to shoot the 3s...kahit na yung taha tumitira sa tres. i thought coach tim learned his lesson when pogoy hit the lights out during the elims. in the 1st game of the semis, it was rosario and semerad. kanina naman, halos lahat nag contribute sa tres. unless and until the 3s will be well defended, i don't see ginebra winning this series.Yes... most probably dahil alam nila na mahina sa close out sa 3s ang gins... I know tim is one of the greatest mind sa basketball, pero siguro he should abandon yung zone pag nakakapasok na ng 3s and abandon his 3-guard rotation...keep it as an option ... Sa next game, i suggest to use raymond and prince alternately or match up ke tj at troy... Siguro first 5 nya should be la, jbl, japeth, prince and greg... kung di gumana si greg, use jdv... Pamalit stan, raymond and aljon... sorry but i can't see scottie fitting in right now because limited ang opensa nya... Remember the time tinalo sya ni yeng? Sabi ni yeng "i am quite surprised they were stubborn about the zone d, when we were hitting our 3s"... Tnt has ginebra's number lalo na pag di gumagana si greg! The gins weakness is also its strength in jbl... the smaller import... Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Yes... most probably dahil alam nila na mahina sa close out sa 3s ang gins... I know tim is one of the greatest mind sa basketball, pero siguro he should abandon yung zone pag nakakapasok na ng 3s and abandon his 3-guard rotation...keep it as an option ... Sa next game, i suggest to use raymond and prince alternately or match up ke tj at troy... Siguro first 5 nya should be la, jbl, japeth, prince and greg... kung di gumana si greg, use jdv... Pamalit stan, raymond and aljon... sorry but i can't see scottie fitting in right now because limited ang opensa nya... Remember the time tinalo sya ni yeng? Sabi ni yeng "i am quite surprised they were stubborn about the zone d, when we were hitting our 3s"... Tnt has ginebra's number lalo na pag di gumagana si greg! The gins weakness is also its strength in jbl... the smaller import...https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/mark-dickel-says-it-s-open-secret-outside-shooting-is-tnt-katropa-s-main-weapon-a793-20190728?ref=article_feed_1 chief, since the elims, this is what TnT has been doing. nung elims against TnT, niyari tayo ni pogoy. semis game 1, it was the turn of rosario and semerad. game 2, it was castro and heruelas. kung walang adjustments, sino kaya ang susunod? as what dickel said, everybody is licensed to shoot. at yung hesitation ng ginebra na tumira...dribble...pasa...resulta? agaw!!! well, TnT needs 3 wins. 3 straight Ws? it's gonna be an uphill climb...pero bilog ang bola. one game at a time and it starts with game 3...and with the necessary adjustments. Quote Link to comment
RED2018 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Pringle is the missing link... Altho there much left to be desired sa kanilang defense, kung pumutok sana ang dreaded offense nila may laban sana. Quote Link to comment
Maj Mujtaba Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 potsa, tinatalo sa coaching ang most championships coach sa PBA hoy gising 1 Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 It's all about the rotation of the Ginkings partly. Pag yung 3 guard combo ang nasa loob; bumibilis nga ang takbo ng Ginkings pero nacocompromise yung depensa...alang ipantatapat sa matatangkad na shooters ng TNT, also kapansin pansin din na yung bilis nasasamahan minsan ng pagmamadali ayun errors ang inaabot. Visible din yung hesitation tumira...simpleng Jumpshot, i da drop pass pa. Also look at how TNT play the passing lane and the defense against JB. Yung yung current issue kung bakit puro L tayo now. Could be scenario is Jeff Chan will have a field day beyond the arc para bumuka na yung D ng TNT, Sana Pringle will have his Bounce back game bukas, Japeth needs to be more aggressive in offense and get fouls that will send TNT's bigs into Foul trouble, Greg wakes up and play defense with TJ and be a rim protector, JDV to be less hesitant in offense and help depending tnt's bigs. Usual laro ni LA and Scotties hustle and bench scoring. Si Caperal and Raymond magamit din sana bukas somehow. Parang awa mo na Tim Cone...use your Einsteiniques coaching bukas...otherwise pupulutin tayo sa taniman ng Ampalaya! Quote Link to comment
holygrail_24 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 For me si Greg yung missing link sa Ginebra. Usually positions himself in the high post, pag kuha niya ng bola either look to pass siya ng hand off o kaya pull up siya from 15. Sa rebounds naman hindi siya fully maaasahan. minsan outhustled pa palaga since he is slow. Wala siyang legit post move. Brownlee is really good but matchup problem talaga si Jones. Mahirap din humabol ng 0-2 but who knows, Ginebra yan. tiwala lang and NSD. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 For me si Greg yung missing link sa Ginebra. Usually positions himself in the high post, pag kuha niya ng bola either look to pass siya ng hand off o kaya pull up siya from 15. Sa rebounds naman hindi siya fully maaasahan. minsan outhustled pa palaga since he is slow. Wala siyang legit post move. Brownlee is really good but matchup problem talaga si Jones. Mahirap din humabol ng 0-2 but who knows, Ginebra yan. tiwala lang and NSD. if there is any team in the pba that come back from a 0-2 deficit, it is ginebra. ginebra did it to TnT before...one game at a time at yung adjustments specially on the defensive end. starting game 3, ginebra should bring their A-game. everybody should be focused and determined to win. anything less would be disastrous. talagang sa taniman ng ampalaya tayo pupulutin. 1 Quote Link to comment
holygrail_24 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 if there is any team in the pba that come back from a 0-2 deficit, it is ginebra. ginebra did it to TnT before...one game at a time at yung adjustments specially on the defensive end. starting game 3, ginebra should bring their A-game. everybody should be focused and determined to win. anything less would be disastrous. talagang sa taniman ng ampalaya tayo pupulutin.Sana makabawi nga bukas boss. para hindi naman kakahiya na ma sweep. actually di naman imposible, baka need nanaman ni Jawo magpakita sa halftime haha. pero sometimes di na umubra yung magic niya in some games. Kaya nga dapat all or nothing na bukas, kundi kangkungan nanaman. hehe Quote Link to comment
seraniko-ako Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 pansin nagkakgulo cla sa depensa , me play ang tnt apat sa labas isa sa loob (troy), nagsisimula ung sa taas c jones drive sa loob, pag nakalusot sya lay up pag sinalubong sa depensa ng king dun nagkakagulo , ipapasa sa labas ang bola, hahabol ang king sa open man at iikot naman ang bola sa open, di automatic ang switching ng depensa ng kings nanhuhula minsan..... tapus c pringle drible ng drible 2 point lang ang na shot..........ang gins kasi di desiplinado sa depensa. c scotie wag mo una ipilit ung outside shooting mo , magpractice ka muna hanngang maperfect mo, tulad ni ross ng smb dati walang three points...tulungan nyo c brownlee makawala sa depensa ni jones, bigyan ng pick at screen. c pringles maging decoy ka muna sa opensa. c greg lumaban ka sa rebound wag ka patulak. Quote Link to comment
seraniko-ako Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 kuha kayo teknik sa ginawa ng alaska,mamili kau kug cno babantayan nyo ng todo lokals ba or import, mag law average kasi yan kung cno pasok ang shot ng shot sa cmula magmimintis sa huli..................bigla ko tuloy namiss ung legendary enforcer ng pba taga sira ng laro ng import.......isa un sa way sirain nyo laro g import, c jones me history na gumaganti sa tirada pwede ng din gamitin un, kaya lang cno gagawa nun sa gins, wala na c ferrer, .....dati assign yan ni wilmer ong at sonny cabatu,distrito, gozalgo. at di rin style yan ni cone....pero kng si coach alas yan sasaktan nila jones, c victolero din meron din yan order minsan na masakit na depensa sa players..... Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) kuha kayo teknik sa ginawa ng alaska,mamili kau kug cno babantayan nyo ng todo lokals ba or import, mag law average kasi yan kung cno pasok ang shot ng shot sa cmula magmimintis sa huli..................bigla ko tuloy namiss ung legendary enforcer ng pba taga sira ng laro ng import.......isa un sa way sirain nyo laro g import, c jones me history na gumaganti sa tirada pwede ng din gamitin un, kaya lang cno gagawa nun sa gins, wala na c ferrer, .....dati assign yan ni wilmer ong at sonny cabatu,distrito, gozalgo. at di rin style yan ni cone....pero kng si coach alas yan sasaktan nila jones, c victolero din meron din yan order minsan na masakit na depensa sa players.....actually chief hindi naman talaga manakit ang mga ginagawa dati nina cabatu, gonzalgo, ong pati na din si locsin. pinaparamdam lang nila na nandun yung depensa. sabi nga nila "let them feel your defense". ang problema kasi sa ginebra ngayon malamya ang depensa. slaughter cannot even dominate sa laki niyang yan. simpleng layup pinababayaan na lang. kay jawo noon, no easy baskets. if only ginebra can replicate the tough and rugged defense instilled by the big "j" in his group before, mas marami pa sanang papahirapan ito. kaso hindi yata yan ang style ng depensa ni tim cone. Edited July 29, 2019 by junix Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 actually chief hindi naman talaga manakit ang mga ginagawa dati nina cabatu, gonzalgo, ong pati na din si locsin. pinaparamdam lang nila na nandun yung depensa. sabi nga nila "let them feel your defense". ang problema kasi sa ginebra ngayon malamya ang depensa. slaughter cannot even dominate sa laki niyang yan. simpleng layup pinababayaan na lang. kay jawo noon, no easy baskets. if only ginebra can replicate the tough and rugged defense instilled by the big "j" in his group before, mas marami pa sanang papahirapan ito. kaso hindi yata yan ang style ng depensa ni tim cone. Sir iba na rin kasi ang galawan ngayon ng mga players sa opposite side of the floors madami nang di puedeng gawin now sa depensa kung hinde mangangamote tayo sa penalty1 or 2 or thrown out at saka ibang coaching style...Big J and Tim Cone. Balik tayo ...circa 90's; ilang beses tinalo ng system ni CTC ang REAL NSD approach ni Jawo? Ang the best way for us to take game 3 is to play for the players to step up on both O's and D's the whole 48 minutes and possibly 53 Minutes. On the lighter side my brown crystal ball is very itchy...A good sign that we will take game 3 tomorrow...Itaga nyo na sa bato yan! Ang sinisipat ko na ngayon is yung game 4 sa Thursday. Quote Link to comment
djloe Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 sana makakuha sila ng maraming defensive stops. Quote Link to comment
seraniko-ako Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 actually chief hindi naman talaga manakit ang mga ginagawa dati nina cabatu, gonzalgo, ong pati na din si locsin. pinaparamdam lang nila na nandun yung depensa. sabi nga nila "let them feel your defense". ang problema kasi sa ginebra ngayon malamya ang depensa. slaughter cannot even dominate sa laki niyang yan. simpleng layup pinababayaan na lang. kay jawo noon, no easy baskets. if only ginebra can replicate the tough and rugged defense instilled by the big "j" in his group before, mas marami pa sanang papahirapan ito. kaso hindi yata yan ang style ng depensa ni tim cone.the closest NSD defense today is the phoenix team specially pag dyan c abueva, Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Goodluck sa game mamaya. Iwas sweep. BGK fan here Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Sir iba na rin kasi ang galawan ngayon ng mga players sa opposite side of the floors madami nang di puedeng gawin now sa depensa kung hinde mangangamote tayo sa penalty1 or 2 or thrown out at saka ibang coaching style...Big J and Tim Cone. Balik tayo ...circa 90's; ilang beses tinalo ng system ni CTC ang REAL NSD approach ni Jawo? Ang the best way for us to take game 3 is to play for the players to step up on both O's and D's the whole 48 minutes and possibly 53 Minutes. On the lighter side my brown crystal ball is very itchy...A good sign that we will take game 3 tomorrow...Itaga nyo na sa bato yan! Ang sinisipat ko na ngayon is yung game 4 sa Thursday. itataga na namin chief.. 2-1 na mamaya yan. pag ito nagtabla ng 2-2, dudumugin sa sabado ang game 5. homecourt advantage ang ginkings. pero one game at a time muna. saan nga ba gagawin? 1 Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) itataga na namin chief.. 2-1 na mamaya yan. pag ito nagtabla ng 2-2, dudumugin sa sabado ang game 5. homecourt advantage ang ginkings. pero one game at a time muna. saan nga ba gagawin? Ayos na mga kabarangay...2-1...The win comes in a time when GSM did not depend solely on JB!sa MOA ang game 4...baka sa Araneta kayo pumunta! haha! Effective ang bolang crystal na brown pag kumati...sapol! hahaha... Edited July 30, 2019 by Journeyman6 Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Ayos na mga kabarangay...2-1...The win comes in a time when GSM did not depend solely on JB!sa MOA ang game 4...baka sa Araneta kayo pumunta! haha! Effective ang bolang crystal na brown pag kumati...sapol! hahaha...chief 2-2 sa sabado yan!!! good game. guys did not depend on jbl. balanced scoring attack. Quote Link to comment
*kalel* Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) maganda tung depensa nila, lahat humahabol sa 3 ball.... 5/34 ang tnt sa 3's... at dahil dito nahirapan sila sa zone d ng ginebra... nakabawi si jbl sa game 1 blunder nya, ilang beses nya ninakawan ng bola si tj plus crucial block ke troy.... sana makabawi sya sa game 2 game hehehehe the key was yung close-out nila sa 3s... next game, they should surprise TNT again... let caperal play and shoot 3's! note: slaughter is still missing... 7'0 - 2 rebounds... caguioa - 5 Rebs, Pringle - 6 Rebs, scottie- 6 Rebs, LA- 3 rebs Edited July 30, 2019 by *kalel* Quote Link to comment
Journeyman6 Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 chief 2-2 sa sabado yan!!! good game. guys did not depend on jbl. balanced scoring attack. Break out win ng GSM ito, So sana maka -all tayo sa standing at 2-2 Sir. IMO, hinde pa nag swi-swing sa favor ng GSM ang advantage but the win today surely boosted GSM's confidence and with that I am hoping (we are hoping) that GSM will continue to put defense where defense is due, distribute the ball well...Slaughter to wake-up and be a rim protector that he is(supposed to be) Sa Game 4 na need ng GSM dalhin yung AAA+ game nila. Quote Link to comment
junix Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 Break out win ng GSM ito, So sana maka -all tayo sa standing at 2-2 Sir. IMO, hinde pa nag swi-swing sa favor ng GSM ang advantage but the win today surely boosted GSM's confidence and with that I am hoping (we are hoping) that GSM will continue to put defense where defense is due, distribute the ball well...Slaughter to wake-up and be a rim protector that he is(supposed to be) Sa Game 4 na need ng GSM dalhin yung AAA+ game nila.agree!!! triple-A game ang kailangan. but this breakthrough win was a really confidence booster. slaughter must dominate!!! that 7-foot frame must be a monster in defense and no. 1 rim protector. marami pa din easy put backs ang TnT. at least yung mga close out sa 3s nakita na natin. Quote Link to comment
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