silver41surfer Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Point#1: I didnt say that Steve Nash doesnt deserve his FIRST MVP plum, you can give it to the guy, because as you have said "he turned the team around", but this is what I said: "Steve Nash, is a good player, but for him to win back to back MVP's is again, an overrating" Nash isn't that good of a player to win back-to-back MVP's, he isn't that ELITE of a player to join the ranks of Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Moses Malone, Wilt Chamberlain Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Bill Russell, and Tim Duncan all of which have won back-to-back MVP's, its clear that you can't compare Steve Nash to these elite list of players.. Steve Nash is an overrated player period. And one more thing, just because a player turned things around for a certain team doesn't automatically earn him the right to be an MVP, i can give you a list of players who turned things around upon joining a struggling team but didn't win the MVP the same season. Point#2: I didn't say Kobe's overrated because he's conceited, you're obviously not reading my post well enough, Yes, he's conceited as far as I'm concerned, but the reason I said he's overrated was that he's just the type of player who shoots the ball way too much, HE'S A BALL-HOG.. Kobe Bryant is a HYPED-UP player IMO, Is Kobe an All-Star player? YES he is! but is he that good as most people perceived him to be? HELL NO! You can compare Kobe to Allen Iverson when he was with the 76ers. Yes, he's not shooting and keeping the ball by himself this season, and he's more toned down so to speak, partly because he realized that there are better players than him in the NBA, Lebron and Dwayne are obviously better ball players than Kobe considering that these two are only in their 6th NBA season. I think it was Jerry West himself who said that Lebron already surpassed Kobe as a player, Well the truth is Kobe is a hyped-up player.. and after a few more years and after everything is written down, Kobe's name will be a notch below the NBA greats. He'll be just like Mookie Blaylock, Allen Iverson, Bernard King or Glenn Rice who were all All-Star players, but not one of the greats.. and let me be the first one to say this, Kobe and the Lakers will never win an NBA championship up to the time he retires. you better believe it. Hmmm...Kobe and the Lakers just draw first blood in the series and 3 more wins and u will eat your words, man... Better believe in Magic! Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) Hmmm...Kobe and the Lakers just draw first blood in the series and 3 more wins and u will eat your words, man... Better believe in Magic! LOL! you are funny.. I didnt say that the Lakers wont win a game. MAGIC WILL WIN THIS SERIES in 7 games 4 wins to 3! so you'll be happy in 2 more playing dates since the Lakers will win 2 more games, pero hanggang dun na lang yun. lol! *KOBE BRYANT IS AN OVERRATED PLAYER, HE WON'T WIN ANY CHAMPIONSHIPS SO LONG AS HE IS THE LEADER OF THE TEAM,.. ANY TEAM*.. Edited June 6, 2009 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Quote Link to comment
Thrawn Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 The NBA's overrated players for me are Stephon Marbury and Steve Francis. After several seasons in the NBA, they proved to be real lemons! Quote Link to comment
kanski Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 ^^ para sa akin hindi overrated itong dalawa. they're just too full of themselves and wasted their God-given talent. Quote Link to comment
kanski Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 i can name a lot.... lahat ng first round draft choice s NBA specially the top no. 1 draft who are either retire or sitting on the bench..... mwhahahaha.... Really??? - including Magic, Kareem, Isiah, Hakeem, Robinson - all of whom are now retired? man, when cat posts something, i have to restrain myself from replying since i don't think it's going to go anywhere anyhows. but it's posts like this that makes you go arrrrggghhh!! para hindi ot, i don't have to look further than my pistons. darko, drafted 2nd with high expectations- a bust. Quote Link to comment
positionplay19 Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 LOL! you are funny.. I didnt say that the Lakers wont win a game. MAGIC WILL WIN THIS SERIES in 7 games 4 wins to 3! so you'll be happy in 2 more playing dates since the Lakers will win 2 more games, pero hanggang dun na lang yun. lol! *KOBE BRYANT IS AN OVERRATED PLAYER, HE WON'T WIN ANY CHAMPIONSHIPS SO LONG AS HE IS THE LEADER OF THE TEAM,.. ANY TEAM*..This dude's a Kobe hater. Youre gonna eat your words pal. Quote Link to comment
TidusJanus Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 This dude's a Kobe hater. Youre gonna eat your words pal.+1 :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
jblight Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 gusto q matalo c Kobe para hindi na xa maicompare kay MJ, badtrip ako sa mga fans ni Kobe na nagsa2bing mas magaling si Kobe kexa ky MJ. Pero, hindi ako galit kay Kobe, sa mga fans lang nya at ung media na sobra qng mag hype sa kanya. Quote Link to comment
Guest megalodon Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 gusto q matalo c Kobe para hindi na xa maicompare kay MJ, badtrip ako sa mga fans ni Kobe na nagsa2bing mas magaling si Kobe kexa ky MJ. Pero, hindi ako galit kay Kobe, sa mga fans lang nya at ung media na sobra qng mag hype sa kanya.In terms of athleticism, I'd say that Kobe and MJ are on the same level. But MJ has a bigger heart. He just won't let his team lose. Quote Link to comment
Lycos Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 (edited) fundamentally speaking Kobe is better than MJ. wlang teardrop s MJ heheheh, pero ang intimidating factor+MJ excelled in the defense oriented era 80-90's mas unstoppable c MJ. c Kobe 50/50 ang laro pag napipikon, c MJ sigurado 100% hehehehe. Kobe made a bold statement last year's finals. He guaranteed that there will be a 7th game, pero butata ang labas nya. D nya na back-up ung sinabi nya. c MJ naman nung presscon after game 6 nila ng indiana with his composed and relaxed mood said boldly "You can say whatever about this game, but definitely we will win game 7", which they did. Many other great stars made different kinds of promises but was not able to back-them up. so I think yun yung pinagkaiba ni MJ. At alam nyu ba na Basketball Blasphemy kapag e-compare na c MJ sa kahit kaninong player pa. hehehe Edited June 6, 2009 by Lycos Quote Link to comment
Guest megalodon Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 fundamentally speaking Kobe is better than MJ. wlang teardrop s MJ heheheh, pero ang intimidating factor+MJ excelled in the defense oriented era 80-90's mas unstoppable c MJ. c Kobe 50/50 ang laro pag napipikon, c MJ sigurado 100% hehehehe. Kobe made a bold statement last year's finals. He guaranteed that there will be a 7th game, pero butata ang labas nya. D nya na back-up ung sinabi nya. c MJ naman nung presscon after game 6 nila ng indiana with his composed and relaxed mood said boldly "You can say whatever about this game, but definitely we will win game 7", which they did. Many other great stars made different kinds of promises but was not able to back-them up. so I think yun yung pinagkaiba ni MJ. At alam nyu ba na Basketball Blasphemy kapag e-compare na c MJ sa kahit kaninong player pa. heheheMJ has a bigger heart. Kobe still has to prove he has one. Quote Link to comment
thegame08 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 James Yap - Daming monicker like "King James", "The man with a million moves" (igz!), and even "papa james". Come on! Kahit sina MJ, Kobe, Wade and even Lebron hindi sinabihan ng kahit sinong sportscaster/announcer na merong "a million moves" kahit i-combine mo pa sila. At pag sinabi mong "King James" sa sporting world it rightfully refers to Lebron and no one else! Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 fundamentally speaking Kobe is better than MJ. wlang teardrop s MJ heheheh, pero ang intimidating factor+MJ excelled in the defense oriented era 80-90's mas unstoppable c MJ. c Kobe 50/50 ang laro pag napipikon, c MJ sigurado 100% hehehehe. Kobe made a bold statement last year's finals. He guaranteed that there will be a 7th game, pero butata ang labas nya. D nya na back-up ung sinabi nya. c MJ naman nung presscon after game 6 nila ng indiana with his composed and relaxed mood said boldly "You can say whatever about this game, but definitely we will win game 7", which they did. Many other great stars made different kinds of promises but was not able to back-them up. so I think yun yung pinagkaiba ni MJ. At alam nyu ba na Basketball Blasphemy kapag e-compare na c MJ sa kahit kaninong player pa. hehehe LMAO! this one is new...are you serious? Quote Link to comment
Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 (edited) This dude's a Kobe hater. Youre gonna eat your words pal. Im not a Kobe hater, I just think that he is an over-hyped player, over-hyped by the media and by his fans.. He doesn't have the quality to be a leader, thus IMO, he will never ever win a championship as long as he's the leader of a team unless of course if you back him up with another ALL-STAR player and a go-to-guy..Most of us know the reason they won those champioships in LA in the early 2k, its because Shaq was there and he was the MAIN REASON they won those championships and not Kobe.. As Ive said before, after everything is written down, KOBE BRYANT'S name will be a notch below the great players who have played in the NBA, I can just compare him to a PENNY HARDAWAY, MOOKIE BLAYLOCK or a BERNARD KING, who were all good scorers but they're not one of the greats. Edited June 8, 2009 by Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14 Quote Link to comment
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