Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[haroots2]

Ang tinatanong ko nga ano ang hindi naenforce na dire-diretcho...un pagkakaroon ba ng mabuhay lane??? Iba kasi sinasagot mo sa tanong ko tulad nito imbes na sagutin mo nga para maliwanag eh segway ka na naman.

 

But guluhin mo man usapan this is digong's term. His admin is respinsible now for this problem. And whatever that ningas kugon issue of yours is it is happening now so sino sisisihin natin ngayon...dilawan? Simple lang naman dba sabihin mo di pa din nasolusyonan ni digong yun gusto niya to clear the streets of any obstacles. May pa justify ka pang nalalaman e wala naman value added yun sa problema.

 

Sinabi ko nga ningas kugon. Hindi na nag dire diretso . E di ibig sabihin ngayong admin yun. May sinabi ba ako anything about past admin? Di naman ako nag eexplain kasi sa eleemntary student IQ diba?

[rooster69ph]

 

Sinabi ko nga ningas kugon. Hindi na nag dire diretso . E di ibig sabihin ngayong admin yun. May sinabi ba ako anything about past admin? Di naman ako nag eexplain kasi sa eleemntary student IQ diba?

Kanina ko pa pinapaexplain sa iyo kung ano yun hindi dire-diretcho para magkaintindihan. Kasi kung mabuhay lane eh hindi naputol yun pagdesignate ng mabuhay lane...sagutin mo kasi yun tanong ng diretchahan hindi ito tinatanong iba tinutumbok mo.

[tk421]

Sorry, medyo out of touch ako lately sa traffic schemes. But is Mabuhay Lane a mandatory rule? If so, anong pag enforce ang ginawa noon at nakatulong nga ba ito? If it's not mandatory, what is there to enforce naman?

[haroots2]

Sorry, medyo out of touch ako lately sa traffic schemes. But is Mabuhay Lane a mandatory rule? If so, anong pag enforce ang ginawa noon at nakatulong nga ba ito? If it's not mandatory, what is there to enforce naman?

 

May mga street na kasama sa Mabuhay lane,there is a line in the side street where you can park. Kapag lumampas yan tow na sasakyan mo. May mga establishments talaga na hindi ka makakpag park na hindi lalampas ng line kaya yung mga towing nakaabang na. Ngayon kahit mag park ka at lumampas wala nang nanghuhuli. One side of our office bldg. is part of the mabuhay lane kaya aware kami.

Edited November 8, 2017 by haroots2

[rooster69ph]

Sorry, medyo out of touch ako lately sa traffic schemes. But is Mabuhay Lane a mandatory rule? If so, anong pag enforce ang ginawa noon at nakatulong nga ba ito? If it's not mandatory, what is there to enforce naman?

May mga street na kasama sa Mabuhay lane,there is a line in the side street where you can park. Kapag lumampas yan tow na sasakyan mo. May mga establishments talaga na hindi ka makakpag park na hindi lalampas ng line kaya yung mga towing nakaabang na. Ngayon kahit mag park ka at lumampas wala nang nanghuhuli. One side of our office bldg. is part of the mabuhay lane kaya aware kami.

Lets put some misconception n their proper perspective ... Kaya kami hindi magkaintindihan eh.

 

Ang mabuhay lane nagsimula yan as christmas lane ... Alternative route para makaiwas traffic sa edsa or sa mga major thoroughfares during the christmas season. Eventually naging permanent na at tinawag na mabuhay lane. So the fact is it has always been there and hindi urong sulong.

 

Ang problema kasi ang akala ata mabuhay lane ang tawag sa mga kalsada na nilagyan ng designated parking lane wherein may operation tow away o huhulihin ang illegally parked vehicles. The fact is since ang purpose ng mabuhay lane ay para maging mabilis ang daloy ng traffic so it makes sense na gawin no parking zone or magtalaga lang ng specific parking zone. Walang pinagkaiba ito kahit sa ibang stReets na hindi naman mabuhay lane wherein basta no parking or nag park sa illegally ay huhulihin ka o matotow ang sasakyan.

 

as such yun urong sulong ay yun operation ng paghuli ng illegally parked vehicles at hindi yun mabuhay lane ang urong sulong.

[tomagants]

I know we are here to discuss matters of Traffic. I agree. way back some years ago si Pres. Duterte nagagalit dahil sa traffc noong dumating si Pope Francis. Nagaglit pag na stock up sa traffic. Ngayon na ako ang stock up sa traffic dahil Sa APEC kanino ako magagalit? Bakit hindi linipat ito sa Clark O Subic na walang Traffic. Binabalik ko lang ang Tanong. Dahil ba sya ang ngayon ang Presidente at ako ay isang di hamak na manggagawa? Dahil sa Traffic na suspinde ako.

[darksoulriver]

Ano po ang plano ni Duterte sa Traffic Solution, mga ka DDS?

 

kaw ano ba plano mo may recommendation k rin ba?

 

mdami ng nagbigay ng recommendations pero mas maganda siguro laging linggo na lng para wlang masyadong private cars sa kalsada....

[Bolj]

Any traffic schemes by this government or any other previous or future administration is bound to fail. Whats wrong is the mentality of the people "wlang pera sa probinsya, kaya punta ako sa syudad".

[Jasonkidd]

Ako may solusyon sa trapik. First things first. PAG RED, STOP, PAG GREEN, GO. Un sana pag naimplement malaki maitutulong sa trapik niyan. E green nga, tatlong lane naman ng jeep naka stop kasi kumukuha ng pasahero, gnyan din ang bus. Sa edsa halos lahat gnyan.. Roxas Blvd. I think, importante may mga cctvs tayo, tapos may mga body cam ang enforcer, bawat huli niya sa traffic violation, may cut din siya, HATI. Now. if may mahuli siyang bus or jeep, lets say beating the red light, im not sure how much penalty a, lets say 2000 pesos. Ayan may 1000 na si enforcer at hindi na siya tatanggap ng 50 pangkape kasi hati e. CCTVs and body cams para hindi basta basta manghuli. Now, if ikaw ung bus driver, at na fine ka ng 1000, uulitin mo pa? For sure hindi na, pero kung 50 lang, kayang kaya. Tapos ung mga no parking, pinaparada pa din. Kung hulihin, kahit sabihin mong private vehicle yan, 2000 din yan, pag second offense kulong naman. Tignan natin kung may malakas ang loob na umulit. Its about observing traffic rules and regulations lang. Malaki maitutulong nito sa traffic in metro manila.

[Joblow]

Mas ok para sa akin no contact apprehension

[darksoulriver]

Pag may tanong ka kung ano nagawa ng Pangulo, sagot lagi ng mga Kadede es, ikaw ano nagaw mo sa bayan.. ikaw na magpresidente...tumulong ka na lanh kesa magreklamo...

 

 

Change Scamming mga Kadede es. Lolz

 

balat sibuyas ka din ba.... lol

 

sa daming presidente dumating yan pa rin ba hirit mo?

 

kahit sino pa presidente wlang magagawang permanenteng solution sa mega traffic... sus grow up!

[harveyspecter]

I don't get why a lot of people complain to the president about the traffic, when we have a specific government bodies that should be held accountable for the bad traffic conditions we have now namely, the MMDA, LTFRB and the local government units within the cities. Anyway, based on my observation and analysis:

 

To boil the traffic problem in one sentence: Car volume exponentially increases every year while road capacity stays the same

 

Economically, if Metro Manila has a very efficient Public transportation system (i.e. Singapore) it doesn't make sense to buy/own a car.

 

Now, here are some of my short term solutions* and recommendations that I suggest are the following:

*Trains count as long term since it takes more than 2 years to build one*

 

1. Increase public transportation vehicles (Buses, jeeps, UV's and etc.)

 

PUV's maximize the people being transported with the least road space consumed, rather than 1 person driving his/her own car. What I would suggest is that companies in Metro manila can provide shuttle service from work-home or P2P style. Even if there's a fee, I think a lot of people would still choose this option vs. driving their own car to work.

 

2. Strictly enforce the coding scheme and place MMDA's in strategic locations (such as, Tollgates and exits in SLEX, Coastal and etc.)

 

There are a lot of ways/roads to exploit and avoid MMDA during coding. But almost all cars will funnel and slow down at Tollgates/exits. Placing MMDA's there will make it very easy to catch coding offenders.

 

3. Abolish low down payment options for acquiring a car.

 

This might be a little self-centered (sorry for those working in the auto-industry) but, car companies are offering crazy low DP ( I even saw one car no DP) to get a car, now this makes it very accessible and easy for even a minimum wage earner to get a car. The problem with this is that this increases the car volume which makes the traffic even worse. Again, the main goal here is to minimize the car volume and maximize road space/capacity.

 

What do you guys think? Please feel free to share your thoughts on this.

[Jasonkidd]

I don't get why a lot of people complain to the president about the traffic, when we have a specific government bodies that should be held accountable for the bad traffic conditions we have now namely, the MMDA, LTFRB and the local government units within the cities. Anyway, based on my observation and analysis:

 

To boil the traffic problem in one sentence: Car volume exponentially increases every year while road capacity stays the same

 

Economically, if Metro Manila has a very efficient Public transportation system (i.e. Singapore) it doesn't make sense to buy/own a car.

 

Now, here are some of my short term solutions* and recommendations that I suggest are the following:

*Trains count as long term since it takes more than 2 years to build one*

 

1. Increase public transportation vehicles (Buses, jeeps, UV's and etc.)

 

PUV's maximize the people being transported with the least road space consumed, rather than 1 person driving his/her own car. What I would suggest is that companies in Metro manila can provide shuttle service from work-home or P2P style. Even if there's a fee, I think a lot of people would still choose this option vs. driving their own car to work.

 

2. Strictly enforce the coding scheme and place MMDA's in strategic locations (such as, Tollgates and exits in SLEX, Coastal and etc.)

 

There are a lot of ways/roads to exploit and avoid MMDA during coding. But almost all cars will funnel and slow down at Tollgates/exits. Placing MMDA's there will make it very easy to catch coding offenders.

 

3. Abolish low down payment options for acquiring a car.

 

This might be a little self-centered (sorry for those working in the auto-industry) but, car companies are offering crazy low DP ( I even saw one car no DP) to get a car, now this makes it very accessible and easy for even a minimum wage earner to get a car. The problem with this is that this increases the car volume which makes the traffic even worse. Again, the main goal here is to minimize the car volume and maximize road space/capacity.

 

What do you guys think? Please feel free to share your thoughts on this.

I'll agree with 1 and 2. But sa 3, pano naman mga middle class citizens? Hindi sila makakabili ng kotse. Syempre may mga time na gusto nila mag family outing at the comfort of their own vehicle. More buses and a more coaches to our LRT/MRT should be better. And like I've posted before. Discipline. Especially the PUJ's and PUB's. Walang disiplina talaga. They are stopping on.3 lanes para kumuha ng pasahero. Businahan mo, sila pa galit. And these won't change dahil may corrupt na traffic enforcer.

[harveyspecter]

I'll agree with 1 and 2. But sa 3, pano naman mga middle class citizens? Hindi sila makakabili ng kotse. Syempre may mga time na gusto nila mag family outing at the comfort of their own vehicle. More buses and a more coaches to our LRT/MRT should be better. And like I've posted before. Discipline. Especially the PUJ's and PUB's. Walang disiplina talaga. They are stopping on.3 lanes para kumuha ng pasahero. Businahan mo, sila pa galit. And these won't change dahil may corrupt na traffic enforcer.

 

Definitely agree, I'm sorry about #3 though, I meant for it to reduce car volume on work days/rush hours and it shouldn't restrict it for family/recreational activities. and yes discipline is a huge factor in reducing traffic, because they congest and block road ways. Looking at it though, the main culprits/people to blame for why PUJ's and PUB's are behaving that way, are the owners of the company and how they are being incentivized.

 

I know that most PUV drivers are being subjected to the "Quota" system (i.e. maximize number of passengers in a trip). That's why they're forced to stop at every corner and waiting for passengers even if they are blocking the road. Because of they don't reach this quota, they get punished. If they do, they get rewarded. It's the classic carrot vs. stick behavior.

[Jasonkidd]

Definitely agree, I'm sorry about #3 though, I meant for it to reduce car volume on work days/rush hours and it shouldn't restrict it for family/recreational activities. and yes discipline is a huge factor in reducing traffic, because they congest and block road ways. Looking at it though, the main culprits/people to blame for why PUJ's and PUB's are behaving that way, are the owners of the company and how they are being incentivized.

 

I know that most PUV drivers are being subjected to the "Quota" system (i.e. maximize number of passengers in a trip). That's why they're forced to stop at every corner and waiting for passengers even if they are blocking the road. Because of they don't reach this quota, they get punished. If they do, they get rewarded. It's the classic carrot vs. stick behavior.

 

That is why many are opposing the luxury tax on vehicles. Though honestly it would really help in easing the traffic. The quota system is not an excuse to block almost every lane. They stop and go as they wish, tapos ung vendors pa pala. Unless traffic rules and regulations are followed, there will never be a solution for the traffic in metro. Stop pointing fingers at the president, MMDA etc. We start from ourselves.