hobby Martial Arts

[leloup]

Banana bag? is that different from the regular punching/kicking bag that I see in the sporst house?

 

or is it the one with a nylon like rounded bag? the texture of the fabric that like for those military bags? the bags that I saw are just about 4 feet high, will try to ask around for the banana bag you suggest. thanks for that sir....

It's very different. They're also called muay thai bags, they're about six feet tall. They enable you to practice your low kicks. The beauty of these bags is, over time, when you kick it very often, the materials inside the bags compresses at the bottom. Making the lower part of the bags harder. Therefore, making it better to condition your shin.

 

i've never heard of a muay thai "kata" in all the years i've been training. i also don't believe in kata no matter what the system, but that's my personal opinion based on my own experiences.

My thoughts exactly. I used to be an officer of the POC and PSC recognized governing body of muay thai and my mandate is to recruit/accredit chapters in the Philippines. I was surprised that there are several karate schools that switched to muay thai just because the latter is very popular now a days. In the end, they teach bastardized muay thai. I even encountered a karate instructor who told me, I never told him who I was, if I want to learn muay thai, then I just study karate and boxing.

[hellspawn]

My thoughts exactly. I used to be an officer of the POC and PSC recognized governing body of muay thai and my mandate is to recruit/accredit chapters in the Philippines. I was surprised that there are several karate schools that switched to muay thai just because the latter is very popular now a days. In the end, they teach bastardized muay thai. I even encountered a karate instructor who told me, I never told him who I was, if I want to learn muay thai, then I just study karate and boxing.

 

bandwagon jumping opportunists, also known as lowlife motherf#&kers. sounds like the time when "t3h d34dly pr3ssur3 po1n7s" was the rage, some bright spark started promoting the "hidden" pressure point techniques of t** kwon do. like, what the f#&k dude? have you been smoking dried horseshit or what?

[markusbrutus]

I studied Aikido for a few months way back. My sensei was Pacquito Valencia. If I remember it correctly he is the first certified Aikido Black Belt in the Philippines (1960s) and was even featured in BlackBelt Magazine.

 

My Sensei Pacquito Valencia studied under Sensei Koichi Tohei, student of O' Sensei Morehei Uyeshiba. This means, 3rd generation Aikido student si Sensei ko. 4th generation na kami. Hehe

[pedrupenduku]

Sir leloup

 

I tried to search for the Thai Banana Bag over the net and most of it costs over a $150 each, the filled ones cost over $200 each... been looking around and asking too where to find one but still no luck... is there any place that you can suggest that I can get one and how much would it be (if you have an idea)?

 

TIA

[hellspawn]

Sir leloup

 

I tried to search for the Thai Banana Bag over the net and most of it costs over a $150 each, the filled ones cost over $200 each... been looking around and asking too where to find one but still no luck... is there any place that you can suggest that I can get one and how much would it be (if you have an idea)?

 

TIA

 

i'm assuming you live the us, or someplace that uses dollars for currency. what you do is go to an upholstery shop, or to a sail maker, you can also try a canvas supply shop. note: these are different from the ones you find in the philippines. take along a photo of a banana bag. they should be able to make you one for a lot less then the sports or ma supply shops.

 

what to fill it with? go to the beach, or to the local builder's yard (construction supply), and get some sand for the bottom of the bag. fill it until the sand is about 5-6 cms thick at the bottom. now, find a wetsuit manufacturer. ask them for the leftovers that they have from making wetsuits. get as much as you can. if you end up short, go to a tailor or clothing manufacturer and ask them for the leftovers. fill the bag with the neoprene and cloth. pack it in until it's as tight or as loose as you want. after a few days of use, the stuffing will settle, top the bag up with more material.

 

do not, i repeat, do not make the mistake of stuffing the bag so that it's rock hard. some people think this is macho and will condition their shins better. no, they are idiots. you want the bag firm, but soft enough so that you leave dents when you kick it fullpower. if you want to condition your shins for ring fighting, search for my previous post about it.

 

if you live in the philippines, you can still make one, you'll just have to find somebody willing to try stitching one together.

 

good luck.

[pedrupenduku]

i'm assuming you live the us, or someplace that uses dollars for currency. what you do is go to an upholstery shop, or to a sail maker, you can also try a canvas supply shop. note: these are different from the ones you find in the philippines. take along a photo of a banana bag. they should be able to make you one for a lot less then the sports or ma supply shops.

 

what to fill it with? go to the beach, or to the local builder's yard (construction supply), and get some sand for the bottom of the bag. fill it until the sand is about 5-6 cms thick at the bottom. now, find a wetsuit manufacturer. ask them for the leftovers that they have from making wetsuits. get as much as you can. if you end up short, go to a tailor or clothing manufacturer and ask them for the leftovers. fill the bag with the neoprene and cloth. pack it in until it's as tight or as loose as you want. after a few days of use, the stuffing will settle, top the bag up with more material.

 

do not, i repeat, do not make the mistake of stuffing the bag so that it's rock hard. some people think this is macho and will condition their shins better. no, they are idiots. you want the bag firm, but soft enough so that you leave dents when you kick it fullpower. if you want to condition your shins for ring fighting, search for my previous post about it.

 

if you live in the philippines, you can still make one, you'll just have to find somebody willing to try stitching one together.

 

good luck.

 

 

Thanks for the suggestion sir, I live here in the philippines, I'm actually in las pinas... I will try your suggestion to go to an Upholstery shop and ask them to make one for me...for the stuffing... i'll try to look around for a tailoring shop or maybe ask them (upholstery shop) for the leftovers of their materials... that's a good idea sir... thanks much!!

 

do you also practice muay thai? where? and where are you located?

Edited May 31, 2007 by pedrupenduku

[leloup]

pedrupenduku,

 

You can try K-1 Extreme Sportshop near Greenhills San Juan. Their phone number is 726-5187 look for Jaime Alexis Sin. I think their banana bags costs around Php5-8k, depending on the brand. Another martial arts store is Squadron shoppe in Makati Cinema square, sorry I don't know the contact number.

 

Here's another suggestion, why not just find a good muay thai gym within your vicinity? They should have a banana bag for training. The usual problem with having equipment at home is that there are chances you will not be that motivated to train and hit the heavy bag (I'm guilty of this). Plus, nobody's there to correct you if you're executing the techniques right.

[Super Betlog Z]

sir leolup,

 

CAn I have the phone number of Muay thai (MAP) ultra, and also contact # of any good muay thai school here in makati..

 

many tnx!

[pedrupenduku]

pedrupenduku,

 

You can try K-1 Extreme Sportshop near Greenhills San Juan. Their phone number is 726-5187 look for Jaime Alexis Sin. I think their banana bags costs around Php5-8k, depending on the brand. Another martial arts store is Squadron shoppe in Makati Cinema square, sorry I don't know the contact number.

 

Here's another suggestion, why not just find a good muay thai gym within your vicinity? They should have a banana bag for training. The usual problem with having equipment at home is that there are chances you will not be that motivated to train and hit the heavy bag (I'm guilty of this). Plus, nobody's there to correct you if you're executing the techniques right.

 

 

I have been looking around for a mauy thai gym here in our area, but sad to say there are only a few, and the two gyms I found are connected to each other, the gym that i'm in right now is just a branch of the main one that is located in manuela... the gym name is "Street Fighting Club", the instructor teaches Kickboxing, Self Defense, Grappling, Arnis and Muay Thai... its the most convinient and affordable (for me) that I can find.

 

for the Motivation thing, I have a friend that trains with me, so we can also train at home together... we just need some equipment...

 

thanks for the contact number and person of the store that you've told me... i'll visit the store on my free time... so you also have a banana bag at home? good for you...just hope you'll be motivated enough to use your equipment... and you've been training for 4 years now, so i'm pretty sure you very good at it... you can even teach muay thai if you want to... :-) and i'll be glad to be one of your students...

[Olympus]

I have been looking around for a mauy thai gym here in our area, but sad to say there are only a few, and the two gyms I found are connected to each other, the gym that i'm in right now is just a branch of the main one that is located in manuela... the gym name is "Street Fighting Club", the instructor teaches Kickboxing, Self Defense, Grappling, Arnis and Muay Thai... its the most convinient and affordable (for me) that I can find.

 

Is this the one near RFC and across yellow cab/starbucks along alabang zapote road in Las Pinas?

[Plakat]

Olympus - Are you from the south ? because I saw a Muai Thai Tarpaulin after Puregold if you'll be coming from Alabang.

 

Do you know anybody in this gym ?

 

Thanks

[leloup]

have been looking around for a mauy thai gym here in our area, but sad to say there are only a few, and the two gyms I found are connected to each other, the gym that i'm in right now is just a branch of the main one that is located in manuela... the gym name is "Street Fighting Club", the instructor teaches Kickboxing, Self Defense, Grappling, Arnis and Muay Thai... its the most convinient and affordable (for me) that I can find.

 

for the Motivation thing, I have a friend that trains with me, so we can also train at home together... we just need some equipment...

 

thanks for the contact number and person of the store that you've told me... i'll visit the store on my free time... so you also have a banana bag at home? good for you...just hope you'll be motivated enough to use your equipment... and you've been training for 4 years now, so i'm pretty sure you very good at it... you can even teach muay thai if you want to... :-) and i'll be glad to be one of your students...

Kindly ask if Street Fighting Club is an accredited chapter of Muay Association of the Philippines. And who is their instructor?

 

Since you have a friend to train with, I suggest you also buy the thai pads. This will help you with the timing and the distance of executing techniques.

 

Thanks for the complements but I am not qualified to teach the art. I am just and will always be a student. I can give you some tips though and you can always ask me something about muay thai.

[Olympus]

Olympus - Are you from the south ? because I saw a Muai Thai Tarpaulin after Puregold if you'll be coming from Alabang.

 

Do you know anybody in this gym ?

 

Thanks

 

 

I Live in paranque but am often in las Pinas...

 

I don't know of any accredited MAP chapter in the south....

[smart-ass]

Is there any way of overcoming multiple opponents ?.... KADALASAN PO KASI NGAYON KUYOG MENTALITY... when it comes to fights... maybe to off-set any shortcomings with the lack of any trainng...it is usually one against... several...TAPOS IPAG MAMALAKI PA NUNG MGA NANG KUYOG... during thier drinking sprees...PARA PO GANG-MENTALITY...WHICH IS VERY DISCONCERTING ABOUT HOW YOUNG PEOPLE CONSIDER GANGING UP ON SOMEBODY POLITCALLY 'CORRECT'... so long as it gets 'done'...PARA POO MOB MENTALITY...MATAPANG LANG PAG-MARAMI SILA... OTHER THAN CARRYING A GUN...WHICH I USUALLY DO..WITH PROPER DOCUMENTATION...IS THERE ANY WAY TO WIN OT AT LEAST WARD OFF A 'KUYOG'???.... TNX FOR ANY INFO...

[Olympus]

Is there any way of overcoming multiple opponents ?.... KADALASAN PO KASI NGAYON KUYOG MENTALITY... when it comes to fights... maybe to off-set any shortcomings with the lack of any trainng...it is usually one against... several...TAPOS IPAG MAMALAKI PA NUNG MGA NANG KUYOG... during thier drinking sprees...PARA PO GANG-MENTALITY...WHICH IS VERY DISCONCERTING ABOUT HOW YOUNG PEOPLE CONSIDER GANGING UP ON SOMEBODY POLITCALLY 'CORRECT'... so long as it gets 'done'...PARA POO MOB MENTALITY...MATAPANG LANG PAG-MARAMI SILA... OTHER THAN CARRYING A GUN...WHICH I USUALLY DO..WITH PROPER DOCUMENTATION...IS THERE ANY WAY TO WIN OT AT LEAST WARD OFF A 'KUYOG'???.... TNX FOR ANY INFO...

 

How about avoiding fighting?