kanto-terrorist Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 ano bang career stats category naging #1 si MJ? he didnt hold the most no of pts, most number of career Ws, rings, assists, etc. Even vince carter have more impressive dunks than him. Kobe's game duplicate his. So stats wise, he's not the best. kulelat pa nga sya sa 3 point shoot-out na sinalihan nya minsan eh, a measly 5 points. so what made MJ the best? there must be something about him. hey, millions and legions of fans around the world and majority of posters in this thread cant go wrong. what's the x factor? marketing? Quote Link to comment
orionpax Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) Using your Bruce Lee comparison...His sifu, Yip Man..was a great master and practitioner..yes...but only limited to "wing chun" kung fu... Lee "revolutionized" Oriental martial arts and elevated its status not only in HK. but the US and the World....his status, popularity and following is a testament to that...His movies are just the tip of the iceberg He developed his own system , JKD, his influences in boxing, fencing, kung-fu and other martial arts (judo) helped him achieve that.. hahaha..talo ako dami jordan fans! well...de mo talga matatawaran ang gilas ni jordan ganyan talga ang tao lang naman talga nagpapatanyag sa tao eh...kung si BRUCE LEE nga eh...na sumikat dahil sa media...de na gaanong napansin ang master nya..si IP MAN.. basketball ay laro ng limang tao...de naman ng isang tao...=] so what separates Yip Man and Bruce Lee?? ....... this post of Revs shows what At the end of the day, as you say, its not about skills, its not about the accolades.. Its actually what impact you have done for the sport that makes you the greatest there is.. Edited February 2, 2009 by orionpax Quote Link to comment
theNatural Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Russell and Jordan were children of their own eras.we'd probably think of them somewhat less if we switched them up.they are great in their own distinct ways and impacted the games differently. Russell won in an era where winning was everything---when style points didn't mean as much as hoisting the next trophy. his present-day equivalent is Tim Duncan---dude's got all those rings to show and he's really not getting the love he deserves. but in the modern era of the game, it's got to be MJ. no one redefined basketball---both as a game and a business quite the way he has---both in ways good and bad. just for sport, you throw Jordan back in time and well, he'd just be another athletic black guy moving full throttle and trying earnestly not to get throttled by the next angry, ignorant mob. you throw him out there and he's really more freak show than front-page material. MJ probably wouldn't able to pull that junk either as he'll just piss off legions of white people. he couldn't even claim the G.O.A.T. tag since the game wasn't really his. Quote Link to comment
thedynamite007 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 laban sila ng one on one ni russel ewan kualng kung di kumain ng alikabok yan. He has a better team and he is a center okay. Di naman greatest team and tanung dito and tanung ay greatest individual player. Baka si wilt okay pa peru jordan has lots of mvp and he won even without a legitimate center and won slam dunk contest and won defensive player of he year and gold medalist 2 times sa olympic. Anu pa? Quote Link to comment
roadkill69ph Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 63 points versus the Bird-Parish-McHale Championship-bound Celtics. This was during the 1986 Playoffs. "He is the most exciting, awesome player in the game today. I think it's just God disguised as Michael Jordan." - Larry Bird Quote Link to comment
zjanny Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 what else can you say? Quote Link to comment
thedynamite007 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I just realise, they say kobe 61 and LBJ 52 points and a triple double is much better than his 55 points against Knickerbokers 95, but thats BS for me he is the greatest and his Record in MGS is much better. Heres why, because he done it against a star studded knicks with John Starks, Charles oakley , Big mama johnson, and of course Patrick Ewing. And even the bench of Knicks that time is very strong. While Mamba and Mister Crab done it with a mediocre knick lineup who does not know how to play defense. Hey Duke or North Carolina can even beat this trash. Jordan record is still incomparable Quote Link to comment
bukn0y Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 are you sure about this? North Carolina and Duke will beat NY Knicks? eh kung ganon dapat di na pala drop yung players na nasa team na sinabi mo dahil kaya pala nilang talunin ang teams na nasa NBA eh. I just realise, they say kobe 61 and LBJ 52 points and a triple double is much better than his 55 points against Knickerbokers 95, but thats BS for me he is the greatest and his Record in MGS is much better. Heres why, because he done it against a star studded knicks with John Starks, Charles oakley , Big mama johnson, and of course Patrick Ewing. And even the bench of Knicks that time is very strong. While Mamba and Mister Crab done it with a mediocre knick lineup who does not know how to play defense. Hey Duke or North Carolina can even beat this trash. Jordan record is still incomparable Quote Link to comment
thedynamite007 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 off topic: honestly Philippine team can beat ung pinaka mahina or ung mga lower 3 per dvision on NBA pag kinilatis mu pre. Kung ung mga euro basketball team nakakatalu ng NBA team. and basketball medyu level playing field. USA muntik pa sa Spain nung olympic super star na mga yan , kung di lang nag bwenas si Mamba sa tres or kung wala sya dun sa lineup iyak nanaman for sure sina Melo at LBJ tulad nang nangyari sa world basketball na natalu sila. Quote Link to comment
Vegasboy32 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Michael Jordan is a great basketball player. Ang ayaw ko lang sa kanya eh yung pagka sugarol niya. Well he has money to burn hehehe. Baka kasi gayahin din ng mga bata yong bad habit niyang iyon. Since he is a hero and a role model to most kids. Opinion ko lang ito. Pero dapat hindi na siya bumalik sa NBA as a player nung 2001-02 and 2002-03 seasons sa Wizard. He has nothing to prove as a player when he made that comeback. Hindi rin naman niya natulungan ang Wizards noong bumalik siya as a player. They were not able to make the playoffs both years that he was there as a player. Quote Link to comment
theNatural Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Michael Jordan is a great basketball player. Ang ayaw ko lang sa kanya eh yung pagka sugarol niya. Well he has money to burn hehehe. Baka kasi gayahin din ng mga bata yong bad habit niyang iyon. Since he is a hero and a role model to most kids. Opinion ko lang ito. Pero dapat hindi na siya bumalik sa NBA as a player nung 2001-02 and 2002-03 seasons sa Wizard. He has nothing to prove as a player when he made that comeback. Hindi rin naman niya natulungan ang Wizards noong bumalik siya as a player. They were not able to make the playoffs both years that he was there as a player. teka, akala ko ba walang personalan?eh paano yung rape? ok lang para sa mga bata yun? Quote Link to comment
Vegasboy32 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 teka, akala ko ba walang personalan?eh paano yung rape? ok lang para sa mga bata yun? Duh. We are not talking about Kobe. The topic at hand is Michael Jordan. Bakit ang sugal ba ok din ba sa mga bata yon. This guy has been losing bets in the golf course for about $200,000 plus. Well like I've said he's got money to burn. That's his business. Wag lang sana gumaya ang mga bata sa bad habit niya. Please stick to the topic at hand. If you wan't to talk about Kobe's personal life there is a kobe thread in this post forum. Quote Link to comment
theNatural Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Duh. We are not talking about Kobe. The topic at hand is Michael Jordan. Bakit ang sugal ba ok din ba sa mga bata yon. This guy has been losing bets in the golf course for about $200,000 plus. Well like I've said he's got money to burn. That's his business. Wag lang sana gumaya ang mga bata sa bad habit niya. Please stick to the topic at hand. If you wan't to talk about Kobe's personal life there is a kobe thread in this post forum. so pag si Kobe walang personalan, si MJ pwede? double standard na ata yan, duhhhhhhhh. mga bata, wag kayo mag-sugal ha, mang-rape pwede! Edited February 7, 2009 by theNatural Quote Link to comment
dencio Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Duh. We are not talking about Kobe. The topic at hand is Michael Jordan. Bakit ang sugal ba ok din ba sa mga bata yon. This guy has been losing bets in the golf course for about $200,000 plus. Well like I've said he's got money to burn. That's his business. Wag lang sana gumaya ang mga bata sa bad habit niya. Please stick to the topic at hand. If you wan't to talk about Kobe's personal life there is a kobe thread in this post forum. Naku, hindi rin yata puwede mag-post nang personal life dun sa Kobe thread. Mahirap na ma-accuse ng flaming ng mga sensitive Kobe fans. :hypocritesmiley: Para di-OT: MJ's gambling problems is the root of one of the NBA's biggest conspiracy theories. According to some, MJ's first retirement was really a forced leave imposed on him by Commish Stern. He was about to be investigated for his gambling, which some say, may also be related to the death of his father. So to avoid all the potential fallout to MJ in particular and the league and general, Jordan was asked to 'retire'. Quote Link to comment
kleptome Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I just realise, they say kobe 61 and LBJ 52 points and a triple double is much better than his 55 points against Knickerbokers 95, but thats BS for me he is the greatest and his Record in MGS is much better. Heres why, because he done it against a star studded knicks with John Starks, Charles oakley , Big mama johnson, and of course Patrick Ewing. And even the bench of Knicks that time is very strong. While Mamba and Mister Crab done it with a mediocre knick lineup who does not know how to play defense. Hey Duke or North Carolina can even beat this trash. Jordan record is still incomparable I have to agree, pag nafoul ka dati ng tulad ni Charles Oakley eh siguradong PASA ang aabutin mo. Duh. We are not talking about Kobe. The topic at hand is Michael Jordan. Bakit ang sugal ba ok din ba sa mga bata yon. This guy has been losing bets in the golf course for about $200,000 plus. Well like I've said he's got money to burn. That's his business. Wag lang sana gumaya ang mga bata sa bad habit niya. Please stick to the topic at hand. If you wan't to talk about Kobe's personal life there is a kobe thread in this post forum. Stick to the TOPIC! Basketball lang and walang gambling o rape. Mahirap bang gawin yun? Quote Link to comment
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