butete12 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Just acquired 4 red bellied pi#&ha, any body here has experience taking care of this magnificent fishes? May experience ako sa pacu distant cousins ng Red bellies, may pinag iba ba to? Kasi dati sa pacus puro live lang pnapakain ko plano ko sana ganun din! nice! experience ko they are very sensitive sa change of temperature. true. when the temperature increases, the agrression also increases red bellies... are hardy fishes... as long as they are fed ok sila.. they are not aggressive if you keep only a few, lets say less than a dozen, pero kung 1 school talaga siya... dun sila nagiging aggressive... they are not as aggressive as their cousins the black belly piranha... easy to keep ang problem e lagi mabaho ang water, they have this feeding style na hahatiin nya lng yung torso ng feeders... kaya ayun palagi mabaho ang water at over head filter... distant cousin sya ng pacu, but di pa ako naka kita ng red bellies larger than a dinner plate, unlike pacus which can grow to bigger sizes (ive seen my friends pacu na halos half na ng 75 gallons tapos ang kapal, na hindi na siya nakaka ikot sa tank) pinaka malaki ko napalaki is size ng platito... tapos ayun nag sawa na rin sa frequent water change... ganda din yan... pogi! agree. by the way, I think they are classified as a scavenger and not a hunter. madumi nga talaga sila kumain. i got mine since 1 peso size tapos ngayon mga 7 inches or 8 na sila tip to tip out of the water. key element mo talaga is temperature. big difference from the pacus kasi mabilis lumaki ang pacu. the biggest i saw sa monster fish keepers.com e around 3 feet. sa pogi naman e 12 inches ang nakita ko. pero alam ko may 14 and 16 pero iba lahi. i think paraya un good luck with the pogi nga pala. seach or read ka lang tungkol sa pogi sa piranha-fury.com and opefe.com. very nice informations bro Quote Link to comment
butete12 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 in my opinoun Kok in all cichlids including "flwr horn" are not a result of what you feed them.... cichlids usually develop hump or kok sa forehead because siya ang alpha male ng group nila.... So kung bibili kayo ng FH buy mga 10 pcs na maliliit ( maski yon tig 60 pesos lang ) observe mo kung sino sino ang siga dito gradually bawasan ang mga binubugbug ng mga siga.... ganon ng ganon lang ang gawin mo hangang isa na lang matitira sa kanila....yon ang alpha male pero kung meron na kayo FH na alaga at gusto niyo malaki ang KOK... buy mga hardy fishes ( like tinfoil barb, gouramis, one spot barbs and etc ) like mga 4 pcs. halo mo kasama ng fh mo... DIther fish ang tawag don at sila ang bubugin o hahabulin ng fh mo... Yan ang natural way to achieve yon hump sa head or KOK nice info. dither fish ba talaga tawag dun at hindi target fish? how bout another way? like buy from a respected breeder na pwede mong makita both male and female parents ng kahit ilang piraso tpos sa grow out tank muna hanggang 3 inches or 4 para makita kung may potential ba or wala. (at least walang bugbugan.) hehehe in my opinion e yan ang ginaganda at kinahirap ng isang isda na pinangalanan na "Hybrid". there is a possibility na kung sino pa ung naging kulelat sa pag laki e maging kokster pag nai solo mo sa isang tank. As the saying goes "youll never know what your gonna get". kaya nakakaadik ang pag alaga ng FH. :cool: Quote Link to comment
thrall Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 nice! true. when the temperature increases, the agrression also increasesagree. by the way, I think they are classified as a scavenger and not a hunter. madumi nga talaga sila kumain. i got mine since 1 peso size tapos ngayon mga 7 inches or 8 na sila tip to tip out of the water. key element mo talaga is temperature. big difference from the pacus kasi mabilis lumaki ang pacu. the biggest i saw sa monster fish keepers.com e around 3 feet. sa pogi naman e 12 inches ang nakita ko. pero alam ko may 14 and 16 pero iba lahi. i think paraya un good luck with the pogi nga pala. seach or read ka lang tungkol sa pogi sa piranha-fury.com and opefe.com. very nice informations bro Thanks bro maganda nga sa pogi-fury.com andami infos!! Quote Link to comment
preacher Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 anybody here na may kilala supplier ng saltwater tank accessories, yung hindi masyadong kamahalan sana. Trying out salt water aquarium for the first time. Quote Link to comment
beefy Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Dither fish is same as target fish... I'm talking of cichlids in general.. since fh are cichlids also siguro pareho rin lang to develop a humpy head.... But i maybe wrong since ndi talaga ako alaga ng fh but cichlids na pure breed alaga ako...Ksi FH are crossbred.. Think about this kung bibili ka ng aso gusto mo ba ng crossbreed na aso ? dba ndi.... Yon ang reason why ndi ako alaga ng fh or parrot cichlids ..... Pero to each his own dba? kanyang kanya trip lang yan nice info. dither fish ba talaga tawag dun at hindi target fish? how bout another way? like buy from a respected breeder na pwede mong makita both male and female parents ng kahit ilang piraso tpos sa grow out tank muna hanggang 3 inches or 4 para makita kung may potential ba or wala. (at least walang bugbugan.) hehehe in my opinion e yan ang ginaganda at kinahirap ng isang isda na pinangalanan na "Hybrid". there is a possibility na kung sino pa ung naging kulelat sa pag laki e maging kokster pag nai solo mo sa isang tank. As the saying goes "youll never know what your gonna get". kaya nakakaadik ang pag alaga ng FH. :cool: Quote Link to comment
chinggero Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 in my opinoun Kok in all cichlids including "flwr horn" are not a result of what you feed them.... cichlids usually develop hump or kok sa forehead because siya ang alpha male ng group nila.... So kung bibili kayo ng FH buy mga 10 pcs na maliliit ( maski yon tig 60 pesos lang ) observe mo kung sino sino ang siga dito gradually bawasan ang mga binubugbug ng mga siga.... ganon ng ganon lang ang gawin mo hangang isa na lang matitira sa kanila....yon ang alpha male pero kung meron na kayo FH na alaga at gusto niyo malaki ang KOK... buy mga hardy fishes ( like tinfoil barb, gouramis, one spot barbs and etc ) like mga 4 pcs. halo mo kasama ng fh mo... DIther fish ang tawag don at sila ang bubugin o hahabulin ng fh mo... Yan ang natural way to achieve yon hump sa head or KOK i would disagree... remember that flowerhorns are "genetically" engineered species, a product of cross-breeding. u wont see true FH fishes in the wild thus the rule of developing a "status" symbol KOK becomes irrelevant. FH's is a result of cross breeding from different cichlid species, getting the best traits from one species and passing it off to its offspring thru cross-breeding, until the desired strain is achieved. The role of genetics plays a more vital role in developing koks. 2 types of kok, hard kok and the soft kok, hard koks are hard to develop and may take years before it really grows, soft koks on the other hand can easily be seen even in the juvenile stages. AFAIK there are still no studies that may prove otherwise that FH food may give FHs an advantage in developing koks. coloration yes, kok i am not sure just my 2 cents... no flames though... Quote Link to comment
Waterbearer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yung fighting fish ko....kulay blue kaso yesterday napansin ko yung isang portion ng fins nya namuti.....anong nangyari kaya duon? Quote Link to comment
butete12 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Dither fish is same as target fish... I'm talking of cichlids in general.. since fh are cichlids also siguro pareho rin lang to develop a humpy head.... But i maybe wrong since ndi talaga ako alaga ng fh but cichlids na pure breed alaga ako...Ksi FH are crossbred.. Think about this kung bibili ka ng aso gusto mo ba ng crossbreed na aso ? dba ndi.... Yon ang reason why ndi ako alaga ng fh or parrot cichlids ..... Pero to each his own dba? kanyang kanya trip lang yan yup. to each his own. no flames though. hehehe peace Yung fighting fish ko....kulay blue kaso yesterday napansin ko yung isang portion ng fins nya namuti.....anong nangyari kaya duon? di kaya tubig? try mo punta sa mga betta masters natin d2 sa pinas. www.asianbetta.com Quote Link to comment
butete12 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Dither fish is same as target fish... I'm talking of cichlids in general.. since fh are cichlids also siguro pareho rin lang to develop a humpy head.... But i maybe wrong since ndi talaga ako alaga ng fh but cichlids na pure breed alaga ako...Ksi FH are crossbred.. Think about this kung bibili ka ng aso gusto mo ba ng crossbreed na aso ? dba ndi.... Yon ang reason why ndi ako alaga ng fh or parrot cichlids ..... Pero to each his own dba? kanyang kanya trip lang yan yup. to each his own. no flames though. hehehe peace Yung fighting fish ko....kulay blue kaso yesterday napansin ko yung isang portion ng fins nya namuti.....anong nangyari kaya duon? di kaya tubig? try mo punta sa mga betta masters natin d2 sa pinas. www.asianbetta.com Quote Link to comment
thrall Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Anyone here knows where to find a dovii aka wolf fish? They say these critters are the most aggressive freshwater fish. Also the asian redtail catfish. Anyone here knows where to find a dovii aka wolf fish? They say these critters are the most aggressive freshwater fish. Also the asian redtail catfish. Quote Link to comment
Plakat Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 i would disagree... remember that flowerhorns are "genetically" engineered species, a product of cross-breeding. u wont see true FH fishes in the wild thus the rule of developing a "status" symbol KOK becomes irrelevant. FH's is a result of cross breeding from different cichlid species, getting the best traits from one species and passing it off to its offspring thru cross-breeding, until the desired strain is achieved. The role of genetics plays a more vital role in developing koks. 2 types of kok, hard kok and the soft kok, hard koks are hard to develop and may take years before it really grows, soft koks on the other hand can easily be seen even in the juvenile stages. AFAIK there are still no studies that may prove otherwise that FH food may give FHs an advantage in developing koks. coloration yes, kok i am not sure just my 2 cents... no flames though... Make sense ! you're absolutely correct. And FH pellets may help the enhancement of the kok but not necessarily to gain a kok. Quote Link to comment
ballybal Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 San po nakakabili ng pogi? Quote Link to comment
butete12 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 San po nakakabili ng pogi? bawal ito bro e. hehehhe Quote Link to comment
hilot_doctor Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 bro butete, ilan nbili mong pogi? ayus b tlga? kc balak ko ding bumili eh Quote Link to comment
crazy8 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 anybody here na may kilala supplier ng saltwater tank accessories, yung hindi masyadong kamahalan sana. Trying out salt water aquarium for the first time. Like what type of equipment are you looking for? Kasi though there are stuff that are value for your money at QMark, not everything there is recommended for marine. Quote Link to comment
jamboree168 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 San po nakakabili ng pogi?bawal kaso sawa na ako iam selling mine 5 pcs......5 to 7 inches pm me directly for pick only dahil mabubutas yung plastic Quote Link to comment
jamboree168 Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 anybody here na may kilala supplier ng saltwater tank accessories, yung hindi masyadong kamahalan sana. Trying out salt water aquarium for the first time.like big dick88 told you...try to go at manila, bienaviedes street bago umabot sa YMCA not soler ha? You will see SERA they sale all types of equipment from fresh to salt.even aquarium and proper lights for salt water, pumps and aalt grains.....well if you are chinese volunteer wel may discount ka if not makakamura ka din.....they also supplies carti-mar........ Quote Link to comment
Plakat Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Anyone here knows where to find a dovii aka wolf fish? They say these critters are the most aggressive freshwater fish. Also the asian redtail catfish. Anyone here knows where to find a dovii aka wolf fish? They say these critters are the most aggressive freshwater fish. Also the asian redtail catfish. It's an aggressive fish but it's not the most. Doviis can be bought in cartimar P100 -P150 each same thing with the RTC. Quote Link to comment
Rain Master Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 It's an aggressive fish but it's not the most. Doviis can be bought in cartimar P100 -P150 each same thing with the RTC. yup agressive fish indeed.... Quote Link to comment
Plakat Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 yup agressive fish indeed.... of course you know your stuff :cool: Quote Link to comment
butete12 Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 mga boss baka meron kayong fish tycoon cracked tnx Quote Link to comment
Rain Master Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 of course you know your stuff :cool: Idol na Idol kita sir...baka pwede magpa personalize service sa iyo para naman matuto pa ako regarding fishes Quote Link to comment
Plakat Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 Idol na Idol kita sir...baka pwede magpa personalize service sa iyo para naman matuto pa ako regarding fishes No worries just PM me for details :upside: Quote Link to comment
Rain Master Posted November 4, 2006 Share Posted November 4, 2006 No worries just PM me for details :upside: yehey...may magtuturo na sa akin regarding fishes, Im so happy Quote Link to comment
tommy_lee Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 nice! true. when the temperature increases, the agrression also increasesagree. by the way, I think they are classified as a scavenger and not a hunter. madumi nga talaga sila kumain. i got mine since 1 peso size tapos ngayon mga 7 inches or 8 na sila tip to tip out of the water. key element mo talaga is temperature. big difference from the pacus kasi mabilis lumaki ang pacu. the biggest i saw sa monster fish keepers.com e around 3 feet. sa pogi naman e 12 inches ang nakita ko. pero alam ko may 14 and 16 pero iba lahi. i think paraya un good luck with the pogi nga pala. seach or read ka lang tungkol sa pogi sa piranha-fury.com and opefe.com. very nice informations bro may alam ka ng bebenta black pir@#ha??pm me pls Quote Link to comment
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