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Nakapagdrive na ako ng EVO 5 and EVO 6, the ride was horrible because of the stiff suspension, pero ok lang yun kelangan eh. stock lang both cars with the exception of full exhaust and blowoff valves. ok ang power. impreza i havent driven one pa, pero someone i knew owns this and they tried it sa NLEX, umabot daw ng 300 kph.

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mas malaki adin ang engine displacement ng type r. usually 2.0 liters siya sa civic compare to 1.6 sa stock version.

 

Honda civic type R yung EK body is only 1.6 liters, B16B engine. Yung integra type R DC2 is 1.8 liters, B18C5 engine. yung bagong civic type -R EP body and the newer one yung bagong civic hindi ko alam body code tsaka yung integra DC5 type R uses 2.0 liter engine yung K20.

 

the difference from an ordinary civic or integra compared to type R models yung engine which is more powerful, more lightweight yung mga type r, good suspension = good handling.

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well the type r is for the japenese & european market where there is a demand for a high performance naturally aspirated civic. same with the evo or sti, both of which naman are turbo'd cars.

 

Well the NA engine of the Type R may deliver equivalent HP levels as an Evo or STi but those horses come at the top end of the rpm scale where they are not very usable. After all, how may times are you able to go flat out? Even in a race, flat out is just for a few seconds. "Usable" horsepower is the game which is why I would not exchange my STi for all the Type Rs in the world but given the same engine output, the Type R is still not in the same class as an Evo or STi. You can't drive a Type R up the hill to Tali Beach and do up to 140 kph on a gravel road. It suspension will probabaly fall to pieces. While an Evo or STi would be right at home.

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Well the NA engine of the Type R may deliver equivalent HP levels as an Evo or STi but those horses come at the top end of the rpm scale where they are not very usable. After all, how may times are you able to go flat out? Even in a race, flat out is just for a few seconds. "Usable" horsepower is the game which is why I would not exchange my STi for all the Type Rs in the world but given the same engine output, the Type R is still not in the same class as an Evo or STi. You can't drive a Type R up the hill to Tali Beach and do up to 140 kph on a gravel road. It suspension will probabaly fall to pieces. While an Evo or STi would be right at home.

 

Your correct sir, dun nakukuha ng honda engines ang power nila sa pagiging high revving. actually NA engines achieve more power if they rev more, just look at the F1 engines, 3 liter displacement 700+ HP NA engine revving up to 18000 RPM. tsaka mahina sa uphill kung mababa ang torque which is common sa low displacement engines tulad ng sa type R

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gusto ko yung low revving na naka vtec, lots of torque whooooo. imagine di ka pa humahataw naka vtec na hihihihi sarap.

nothing against a honda, hoda rules the world of vtec ?

 

VTEC is more hype than substance.

 

VTEC is simply a two-step valve timing system. One for low revs to give more torque and one for high reves to deliver more horsepower. If you drive a VTEC engine you will notice that it has a 'flat-spot at about 3,500 to 4,500 rpm when the system transitions from one setting to the other. I don't know if there is a VTEC system that now works on both intake and exhaust sides but most of the VTEC engines I have seen only actuate the intake valves.

 

Compare this to a continuously variable valve timing system which in theory is expected to set valve timing, duration and dwell at the optimum settings based on what the ECUthinks the driver wants to do with the engine. Toyota's VVTi is an example but an even better one would be BMWs VANOS or the Double VANOS on the M models.

 

Although much can be said about the high end refinement of high rpm screaming engines, they generally do not last all that long. In a race application this is okay. But for a daily driver? Pass. Give me an American SUV with an under-stressed, large displacement engine anytime. For the weekends, well, that is why some of us like to keep an Evo or STi in the garage.

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