Propose A Law

[mary_antoinette]

Yes, mary_antoinette, that goes without saying. Jourdan said that while incentives to raise morale are always a good idea, rewards should be after the fact. Let's not put the cart before the horse. Can't dangle a carrot from the stick that way.

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I get Jourdan's point.

What I am saying is to make the pay system of the government more efficient so that the people working there get what they work for. I ain't aiming for an extra pay for these people, just the right amount that they should get as stated in the law. Too bad, many government offices do not follow the law in terms of personnel compensation. How would you expect a horse to work when it eats too less? I'm not saying (anymore to) give it more food to eat. Just give it what it needs and what it deserves in exchange of its labors.

 

Case in point, in a province in Region II, those clerks working in the the kapitolyo receive a measly pay of gross P3,000 a month, often delayed for not just one or two payroll periods. Isn't the minimum pay supposed to be P7,000+ a month?

[mary_antoinette]

kelangan kumuha ng permit ang mag-asawa kung gusto gumawa ng tao

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expect loads of violators

[skitz]

Repeal that "Stupid Lina Law".

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A way to repeal the "Lina Law" is by merely amending the voter registration laws... di dapat pwede mag-register ang hindi legal resident... hirap kasi, mayors often tolerate squatters kasi ang dami ng boto ng squatters.

[skitz]

Jourdan,

 

I believe that "environment protection" is profitable.... maybe not in the short run, but surely in the long haul.

 

Ang hirap kasi, kung mahirap ka, you are always tempted to take shortcuts... parang dynamite fishing, mas efficient sa una, but in the end, wala ng isdang mahuli.

 

Siguro case to case basis pag-aralan. To follow the Jollibee/McDo argument, bakit ang Tropical Hut, "real" plates, spoons, and forks pa rin ang gamit? Which only means, pwede pa ring maging profitable kahit hindi ka gumagamit ng disposables.

 

Parang "sin tax" siguro ang dapat i-levy, because in reality, mas delikado pa nga ang disposables na yan kaysa sa sigarilyo...

[Podweed]

A way to repeal the "Lina Law" is by merely amending the voter registration laws... di dapat pwede mag-register ang hindi legal resident... hirap kasi, mayors often tolerate squatters kasi ang dami ng boto ng squatters.

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You cannot deprive people, rich or poor, land-owning or not, of a basic right just to correct the deficiencies of a very bad law. Remove the "Stupid Lina Law" from the books altogether.

[skitz]

You cannot deprive people, rich or poor, land-owning or not, of a basic right just to correct the deficiencies of a very bad law. Remove the "Stupid Lina Law" from the books altogether.

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That is exactly what the Supreme Court decided when someone proposed the amendment I cited. I don't agree with it... but I guess, I am in the minority here...

 

Kaninong constituent ang mga street dwellers? mmda?

[howard_the_duck]

I'm wondering, what's this "Stupid Lina Law"?

[Podweed]

I get Jourdan's point.

 

What I am saying is to make the pay system of the government more efficient so that the people working there get what they work for. I ain't aiming for an extra pay for these people, just the right amount that they should get as stated in the law. Too bad, many government offices do not follow the law in terms of personnel compensation. How would you expect a horse to work when it eats too less? I'm not saying (anymore to) give it more food to eat. Just give it what it needs and what it deserves in exchange of its labors.

 

Case in point, in a province in Region II, those clerks working in the the kapitolyo receive a measly pay of gross P3,000 a month, often delayed for not just one or two payroll periods. Isn't the minimum pay supposed to be P7,000+ a month?

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Alright, mary_antoinette.

 

I can't speak for the paymasters of Region II or any other region where that's surely a sad reality as well.

[skitz]

Howard,

 

I don't know the exact wording of that law, but the gist of it is that squatters can only be removed from the lands they are squatting in under very stringent conditions (i.e. relocation sites, etc.).

[Podweed]

I'm wondering, what's this "Stupid Lina Law"?

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Touted as the solution to end the squatting problem, howard_the_duck. On hindsight, always at 20/20, how wrong the proponents were. The sooner we get rid of it, the better. For everyone.

[batibut]

Repeal that "Stupid Lina Law".

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I think it should just be amended to clearly exclude privately owned real properties.

[Podweed]

I think it should just be amended to clearly exclude privately owned real properties.

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Then what about public land taken over by informal settlers?

[batibut]

Then what about public land taken over by informal settlers?

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I think, the government is duty bound to provide housing for the poor. The purpose of the law was meant to apply to squatters in lands belonging to the public domain. I can only remember some of the law's salient points. One of which is to provide for a relocation area for the slum dwellers, when subject real properties are "reclaimed." In a way, the government is therefore obliged to provide low cost housing for the homeless.

[Podweed]

I think, the government is duty bound to provide housing for the poor.  The purpose of the law was meant to apply to squatters in lands belonging to the public domain.   I can only remember some of the law's salient points.  One of which is to provide for a relocation area for the slum dwellers, when subject real properties are "reclaimed."  In a way, the government is therefore obliged to provide low cost housing for the homeless.

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But that does not fully address the headache that squatting has now become. Presently, squatters put up shanties without making distinctions between public and private land.

 

Granting that private properties are now excluded, how then will government explain to the hundreds of thousands of would-be displaced people, who, facing immediate eviction by private land owners, are sure to descend on government land, that it will also be removing them sooner or later? That will just put the government in a deeper bind.

 

Despite the obligation, which I agree with somewhat, government must not be blackmailed into putting up low-cost housing just to satisfy law-breakers who employ a bad law as their shield. Their getting away with it is not right at all.

Edited March 10, 2005 by Podweed

[batibut]

A way to repeal the "Lina Law" is by merely amending the voter registration laws... di dapat pwede mag-register ang hindi legal resident... hirap kasi, mayors often tolerate squatters kasi ang dami ng boto ng squatters.

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the policy behind the law is to protect the homeless, to make the government provide housing for them. amending the voter registration laws is non sequitur, I'm afraid.