PacMan's Corner

[Why So Serious]

Live streaming links please... thanks in advance.

 

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[kinkin]

pinoy-ako.me

[darksoulriver]

naku mauudlot nnman ang Mayweather vs Pacquaio nito

 

masaya ang Pilipinas

 

 

Congrats Manny

[wendy testicleger]

demolition

[Edmund Dantes]

Well I dont mean to take so much away from Manny, but this is not exactly a victory that should get his fans excited. Yes it was impressive how he completely dominated and outclassed a younger and undefeated fighter, but its more of him fighting a weak opposition really. Lets take a look at Algieri, he only had 1 world championship fight. He hasn't beaten anyone of note other than Provodnikov and he won that fight via tough split decision. All in all, the guy lacks the experience to take on someone like Pacquiao. I don't even understand bakit ito pinili nila eh wala naman syang following. Mas sikat pa si Bambam Rios. Tingin ko, this was a kind of match that wont earn anything for manny.

 

On the other hand, siguro psychologically makakatulong sa kanya ito para bumalik yung dating aggressiveness nya na nawala nung maKO sya ni Marquez. Siguro kung masasanay sya ulit maging agresibo sa mas mahinang kalaban, baka pag mas mahusay na kalaban nya andun na ulit yung confidence nya

 

Isa pa, nawawala na din interest sa kanya ng tao. Kahit mga pinoy di na gaano excited tumutok sa mga laban nya tulad ng dati. 2 na laban na lang ang tingin ko gusto pa makita ng mga tao. Si Marquez o si Mayweather. Kundi rin lang ito mangyayari, mas mabuti na talaga na magretire na lang si Pacquiao. At least magre-retire sya na champion

[daphne loves derby]

congrats manny!

 

mayweather na next year or never!

[airspan_mimic]

definitely Mayweather will again look for a reason or an excuse not to fight Manny Pacquiao

 

mayor duterte was also watching the boxing match..

[◕‿◕]

lol si mommy d, palaging agaw eksena. yung algieri fight hindi masyadong exciting, alam naman siguro ng marami mananalo si manny kasi hindi naman gaano sikat yung kalaban niya at hindi rin ganun ka-experienced.

[Edmund Dantes]

lol si mommy d, palaging agaw eksena. yung algieri fight hindi masyadong exciting, alam naman siguro ng marami mananalo si manny kasi hindi naman gaano sikat yung kalaban niya at hindi rin ganun ka-experienced.

 

True! Impressive pagkapanalo ni Pacquiao more of because mismatch yung laban. Isa pa lang ang panalo ni Algieri sa isang world championship bout. Yung panalong yun, split decision pa. Si Ruslan Provodnikov lang naman ang nakalaban nya na worth noting. Tsaka, disappointing din si Algieri kasi parang tulad ni Clottey gusto lang ng big payday. Undeserving sya sa laban na ito kung ako tatanungin.

 

Higit sa lahat, hindi ito ang laban na kelangan ni Manny para patunayan na kaya nya talunin si Mayweather. Labanan nya siguro ulit si Marquez at talunin nya convincingly.

 

Alam ko lahat tayo gusto natin makita Pacquiao Mayweather, pero from analyzing styles at styles lang, hindi mananalo pambato natin.

[airspan_mimic]

Alam ko lahat tayo gusto natin makita Pacquiao Mayweather, pero from analyzing styles at styles lang, hindi mananalo pambato natin.

 

r u a professional boxing analyst just askin?

 

im not an avid Pacquiao fan how can you say that his styles dont have a chance against Mayweathert bcoz he have problems against Marquez.

 

now they are luring Mayweather for 100Million Paycheck against 60M for Pacquiao to agree for a fight...on my view point he will again make reservation not to agree and not to gamble his unblemished winning record.

[Edmund Dantes]

r u a professional boxing analyst just askin?

 

im not an avid Pacquiao fan how can you say that his styles dont have a chance against Mayweathert bcoz he have problems against Marquez.

 

now they are luring Mayweather for 100Million Paycheck against 60M for Pacquiao to agree for a fight...on my view point he will again make reservation not to agree and not to gamble his unblemished winning record.

 

No of course not. I am not a professional analyst nor a fighter. Most that I do are conditioning drills lang, I don't really spar. But I understand that this is not just a sport of brute strength and heart. This is also a game of tactical finesse. Kelangan depende sa style at anatomy ng kalaban mo, magaadjust ka. What people fail to understand is that Boxing is not like that BS you saw in Rocky IV.

 

Ang nakakatawa sa mga tao dito, laging hype lang naman pinagbabasehan. Komo kasi villain yung persona ni Mayweather, hindi na nirerespeto yung skill set nya. Kesyo cherry picker, duwag, takot matalo etc. Pero hindi naman makapagpresent ng tamang analysis kung papano nga sya matatalo. Kahit magbackread ka sa thread na ito, not one person presented a clear strategy on how Pacquiao is gonna beat him and why. Let us not forget that Floyd is really a master of adjustment and has fought all kinds of styles. Inside fighting, outside fighting, brawlers, slipsters, precision boxers, name it. Not to mention, his defense is difficult to break

 

Now as to why Pacquaio can't win, he always had a problem against precision fighters who can catch him moving in. Akala lang natin naayos na itong problema na ito dahil sa pinakita nya kay Dela Hoya Hatton at Margarito. Eh puro pasugod maglaro ang mga ito at kaya nya sabayan. Isa pang problema na Pacquiao, he can't fight when he is moving back. Dun sya nadadale ng follow up kay Marquez. Mayweather is the better counterpuncher, plus has better defense and reach advantage. Come on! Pacquiao will always fight the way he knows best, its too late to change his game. He just won't win and it is what it is.

 

As to mayweather naman not wanting to gamble, well critics will always talk smack about him because he is the current villain of the sport. But if we would look objectively, puro champion naman nilalabanan nya in the last 10 years. They said he'd never fight an unbeaten and young Canelo Alvarez, but he did beat him.

[airspan_mimic]

 

Thanks for clarifying... but from the loss against Marquez, Pacquiao someway change to more precision and not brute force... hesitant and not careless

 

well if the odds really on the side of Mayweather it would be an easy fight against Pacquiao right!

 

style, techniques or whatever skills this both Fighter have would not be tested unless the 1 & 2 P2P Boxer fight! we dont know who will win unless we pick someone side.

 

can Mayweather agree for 100Million purse against Pacquiao or we might be again be dismayed?

 

Mayweather got his hands full... no professional athlete can have a one day 100Million paycheck! this will be history!

[Edmund Dantes]

Thanks for clarifying... but from the loss against Marquez, Pacquiao someway change to more precision and not brute force... hesitant and not careless

 

well if the odds really on the side of Mayweather it would be an easy fight against Pacquiao right!

 

style, techniques or whatever skills this both Fighter have would not be tested unless the 1 & 2 P2P Boxer fight! we dont know who will win unless we pick someone side.

 

can Mayweather agree for 100Million purse against Pacquiao or we might be again be dismayed?

 

Mayweather got his hands full... no professional athlete can have a one day 100Million paycheck! this will be history!

 

I don't think its always Mayweather's fault why the fight wont happen. Remember that before he went to prison, he wanted to fight Pacquiao for a cinco de mayo showdown. He evThen called him out in social media. The negotiation took place, pero it all fell apart kasi nakialam si Bob Arum at dalawa yung dahilan na binigay kung bakit di pwede date na yan. Una may tahi sa kilay si Manny mula sa laban kay Marquez which was 5 months ago so its rubbish. Even more rubbish, kulang daw ang panahon para magpatayo ng outdoor stadium sa las vegas strip. Which is also rubbish kasi ang cowboys stadium nagaalok na ng laban. I think kung si Pacquiao at Mayweather lang maguusap sa isang kwarto matutuloy ito. Not saying that Mayweather is not at fault himself, what I am saying is, its not all him. Madami kasi sumisingit na negosyador sa kampo ni Manny. In a way tama si Floyd, baka mas maganda iwan nya muna si Bob Arum.

 

Look at his last fight, Ill never understand why kinasa sya kay Algieri. Algieri only had 1 championship fight and he won it via split decision. He was hardly an elite, and hardly deserving. It does not prove that Manny is back, it only proves that he beat an inexperienced paper champ. And you all wanna complain that Floyd is a cherry picker when for the last 10 years he fights better champions than Manny does?

[jherbi]

lakas tlga ng dasal ni momy D kakaiba

[jherbi]

lakas tlga ng dasal ni momy D. pero hlta nmng well fixed ung lban although d nla nkuha ung result na gusto nla khit 6 times bumgsak si algiere

[stacks]

No of course not. I am not a professional analyst nor a fighter. Most that I do are conditioning drills lang, I don't really spar. But I understand that this is not just a sport of brute strength and heart. This is also a game of tactical finesse. Kelangan depende sa style at anatomy ng kalaban mo, magaadjust ka. What people fail to understand is that Boxing is not like that BS you saw in Rocky IV.

 

Ang nakakatawa sa mga tao dito, laging hype lang naman pinagbabasehan. Komo kasi villain yung persona ni Mayweather, hindi na nirerespeto yung skill set nya. Kesyo cherry picker, duwag, takot matalo etc. Pero hindi naman makapagpresent ng tamang analysis kung papano nga sya matatalo. Kahit magbackread ka sa thread na ito, not one person presented a clear strategy on how Pacquiao is gonna beat him and why. Let us not forget that Floyd is really a master of adjustment and has fought all kinds of styles. Inside fighting, outside fighting, brawlers, slipsters, precision boxers, name it. Not to mention, his defense is difficult to break

 

Now as to why Pacquaio can't win, he always had a problem against precision fighters who can catch him moving in. Akala lang natin naayos na itong problema na ito dahil sa pinakita nya kay Dela Hoya Hatton at Margarito. Eh puro pasugod maglaro ang mga ito at kaya nya sabayan. Isa pang problema na Pacquiao, he can't fight when he is moving back. Dun sya nadadale ng follow up kay Marquez. Mayweather is the better counterpuncher, plus has better defense and reach advantage. Come on! Pacquiao will always fight the way he knows best, its too late to change his game. He just won't win and it is what it is.

 

As to mayweather naman not wanting to gamble, well critics will always talk smack about him because he is the current villain of the sport. But if we would look objectively, puro champion naman nilalabanan nya in the last 10 years. They said he'd never fight an unbeaten and young Canelo Alvarez, but he did beat him.

 

 

Bro, agree ako sa analysis mo, except dun sa walang strategy. Simply put, strategy ni Pacquiao will be volume punching.

 

A. Sobrang galing ni Mayweather talaga, maiiwasan nya lahat

B. May makakalusot na suntok --- does not need to KD or KO, score lang

 

If A, kelangan talunun ni FMJ si Bradley at Algieri sa pag back pedal -- won't look good sa judges

If B, ano kaya itsura nun sa judges? Fight 1 to 47 wala nakaka-score, tapos 48 meron na?

 

Hindi ako nag-iilusyon na ma-KO ni Pacquiao si FMJ, pero kung si Maidana naka-score ng rounds, bakit hindi si Pacquiao. Hindi naman pulpol sumuntok si Pacquiao, may asinta naman.

 

At, hindi na 2009. Parehas na tigang sa KO yun dalawa. Di nako aasa na makaka KO si Pacquiao man or Mayweather. Papogian sa mata ng judgest ang laban sa tingin ko.

Si Pacquiao, dati na na-c-counterpunch -- nothing new kung si Mayweather ang gagawa. Ang pinaka-downside sa skillset talaga ni Mayweather is defensive fighter sya, so ang strategy is make him a defensive fighter most of the rounds to a fault gamit ang volume punching.

Edited November 30, 2014 by stacks

[Edmund Dantes]

Bro, agree ako sa analysis mo, except dun sa walang strategy. Simply put, strategy ni Pacquiao will be volume punching.

 

A. Sobrang galing ni Mayweather talaga, maiiwasan nya lahat

B. May makakalusot na suntok --- does not need to KD or KO, score lang

 

If A, kelangan talunun ni FMJ si Bradley at Algieri sa pag back pedal -- won't look good sa judges

If B, ano kaya itsura nun sa judges? Fight 1 to 47 wala nakaka-score, tapos 48 meron na?

 

Hindi ako nag-iilusyon na ma-KO ni Pacquiao si FMJ, pero kung si Maidana naka-score ng rounds, bakit hindi si Pacquiao. Hindi naman pulpol sumuntok si Pacquiao, may asinta naman.

 

At, hindi na 2009. Parehas na tigang sa KO yun dalawa. Di nako aasa na makaka KO si Pacquiao man or Mayweather. Papogian sa mata ng judgest ang laban sa tingin ko.

Si Pacquiao, dati na na-c-counterpunch -- nothing new kung si Mayweather ang gagawa. Ang pinaka-downside sa skillset talaga ni Mayweather is defensive fighter sya, so ang strategy is make him a defensive fighter most of the rounds to a fault gamit ang volume punching.

 

Panoorin mo laban ni Floyd kay Ndou at Shamba Mitchell, parehong volume puncher pero hirap mapatamaan kasi deflected lahat ng suntok. Magaling talaga shoulderroll defense. Tuck your chin to your deltoid and move your waist and shoulders to deflect blows. Point is, marami na din nakalaban si FMJ na volume punchers ang istilo. Aside from that, mas maganda reflexes nya at handspeed. Kakain si Pacquiao ng maraming Jab kung susubukan nya pasukin. At pag napaatras na sya, hindi na makalaban. Dun sya napupuruhan lagi ni Marquez.

 

OO makakapuntos siguro si Pacquiao ng round, pero yung problema nya against precision boxers di nya talaga naayos. Master tactician si Floyd. Hindi naman komo counterpuncher eh boring na sa mata ng judges. Hindi naman magiging perfect record ni FMJ kung lagi nya tinatakbuhan kalaban nya. Lamang nga lagi sya sa punch stats eh. Siguro sa mga causual fans boring ang ganitong style ng boxing, pero kung inaaral mo itong sport na ito, maapreciate mo yung laro ng precision fighting.

 

Anyway, I take nothing from pacquiao, he is a good offensive fighter, but I dont see how he will win this fight.

[stacks]

 

Panoorin mo laban ni Floyd kay Ndou at Shamba Mitchell, parehong volume puncher pero hirap mapatamaan kasi deflected lahat ng suntok. Magaling talaga shoulderroll defense. Tuck your chin to your deltoid and move your waist and shoulders to deflect blows. Point is, marami na din nakalaban si FMJ na volume punchers ang istilo. Aside from that, mas maganda reflexes nya at handspeed. Kakain si Pacquiao ng maraming Jab kung susubukan nya pasukin. At pag napaatras na sya, hindi na makalaban. Dun sya napupuruhan lagi ni Marquez.

 

OO makakapuntos siguro si Pacquiao ng round, pero yung problema nya against precision boxers di nya talaga naayos. Master tactician si Floyd. Hindi naman komo counterpuncher eh boring na sa mata ng judges. Hindi naman magiging perfect record ni FMJ kung lagi nya tinatakbuhan kalaban nya. Lamang nga lagi sya sa punch stats eh. Siguro sa mga causual fans boring ang ganitong style ng boxing, pero kung inaaral mo itong sport na ito, maapreciate mo yung laro ng precision fighting.

 

Anyway, I take nothing from pacquiao, he is a good offensive fighter, but I dont see how he will win this fight.

 

Ang layo naman ni Pacquiao kay Ndou at Mitchell. Yun kay Ndou kaya si FMJ ang exciting fighter -- parang malabo naman na ganun mangyari vs Pac. Yun dalawang fight na yan low intensity footwork.

 

Mas malapit siguro FMJ vs Chavez, angat lang ng onti sa volume si Pac, onting dagdag ng footwork, southpaw tapos may stamina for 12 rounds.

[jherbi]

huh just heard from news ung vargas daw ung back up plan anak ni vargas oh huh kokonti n lng oras ni manny sa ring dpat pumili nmn sila nung worthy ndi ung LUTONG MACAU ung klaban someone like danny garcia or amir khan kung d lumaban si GAYWEATHER

[Edmund Dantes]

 

Ang layo naman ni Pacquiao kay Ndou at Mitchell. Yun kay Ndou kaya si FMJ ang exciting fighter -- parang malabo naman na ganun mangyari vs Pac. Yun dalawang fight na yan low intensity footwork.

 

Mas malapit siguro FMJ vs Chavez, angat lang ng onti sa volume si Pac, onting dagdag ng footwork, southpaw tapos may stamina for 12 rounds.

 

Malayo na kung malayo, ang punto ko dito, lahat naman ng klase ng istilo kayang magadjust ni Mayweather. Si Pacquiao masyado ng nalatag ang blueprint para talunin sya. Isa pa, ang mahirap kay Pacquiao ang dali nya tamaan lalo kung pasugod. Kahit kay Marquez hindi nya magamit yung volume punching approach na ginamit nya kay Margarito at dela hoya. Pano, papasok pa lang sya napupuruhan na, tapos pag kelangan na umatras ng konti di na alam gagawin. Now mas mahusay na counterpuncher si FMJ, mas mahaba din ang Jab at mas mabilis handspeed. Papano nya papasukin yun ng di sya matatamaan?

 

Sakin, gusto ko matuloy laban syempre. Pero kung skillwise lang hindi ako pupusta kay Pacquiao

[jherbi]

well thats true skillwise pero bgo tumumba si pacquiao kay marquez eh basag na ilong nya bugbug sarado na and pbagsak n dn in short suicidal punch ung tnamon ni marquez pero tumama then talo si pacman! in my opinion ndi susugal ng gnun si mayweather tsaka tactically wise mas mgaling yta si marquez dun! tsaka the only way to beat FMJ is through knock out kung decision lng npakalabo nun

[bughaw1]

the only thing fmj cannot adjust is his age..his legs are not the way they used to be...and thats bad for the business.

[airspan_mimic]

well thats true skillwise pero bgo tumumba si pacquiao kay marquez eh basag na ilong nya bugbug sarado na and pbagsak n dn in short suicidal punch ung tnamon ni marquez pero tumama then talo si pacman! in my opinion ndi susugal ng gnun si mayweather tsaka tactically wise mas mgaling yta si marquez dun! tsaka the only way to beat FMJ is through knock out kung decision lng npakalabo nun

 

yes its true skill wise Mayweather got the advantage but he will never get toe to toe with Pacquiao like Marquez did...

 

if Mayweather requesting for a rematch clause is true then this will be a trilogy..

 

Mayweather watch Pacquiao's fight live but Pacquiao never watch a Mayweather fight live!

[Edmund Dantes]

well thats true skillwise pero bgo tumumba si pacquiao kay marquez eh basag na ilong nya bugbug sarado na and pbagsak n dn in short suicidal punch ung tnamon ni marquez pero tumama then talo si pacman! in my opinion ndi susugal ng gnun si mayweather tsaka tactically wise mas mgaling yta si marquez dun! tsaka the only way to beat FMJ is through knock out kung decision lng npakalabo nun

 

Give Marquez full credit. Hindi aksidente pagkapanalo nya mula sa isang suicide punch. It was a perfectly timed lounging straight counter. Marquez was in no harms way kasi nga inurong nya pa ulo nya sa gilid para di tamaan ng kaliwa ni Pacquaio. Plus 6 months naghanda si Marquez, si Manny 2 lang at panay pa bulakbol sa training.

 

Tama ka hindi lalaban ng sabayan si Mayweather. Tingin ko papakainin nya ng sneaking stiff jabs si many at ifru-frustrate sa unang mga rounds. Sa casual fans hindi ito entertaining panoorin. Pero sa nakaexperience na ng totoong sparring, maapreciate mo na mental game ang boxing. Sa sparring kasi dapat malamig ulo mo at huwag ka mangigil. Kundi magkakaroon ng butas guard mo at sapul ka sa baba. Nakakainis kasi yung wala sa mga suntok mo na nga tumatama tapos nasisingitan ka pa ng matitinding counter na di mo nalalaman kung san nangagaling. Yan ang tinatawag na bull vs matador fight. Ginagalit mo kalaban mo para maging reckless at magkamali. Kaya panay din trash talk ni Mayweather para pumasok sa ring ang kalaban na gigil na gigil.

 

the only thing fmj cannot adjust is his age..his legs are not the way they used to be...and thats bad for the business.

 

True, nanghihina na rin reflexes nya. But in the same way, Pacquiao isnt the same fighter he was in 2009. Hmmmm lets see na lang.

 

 

yes its true skill wise Mayweather got the advantage but he will never get toe to toe with Pacquiao like Marquez did...

 

if Mayweather requesting for a rematch clause is true then this will be a trilogy..

 

Mayweather watch Pacquiao's fight live but Pacquiao never watch a Mayweather fight live!

 

Mayweather knows that Manny is an aggressive fighter. He will most likely use his own aggression against him. He will make him miss and frustrate then counter him with sneaking left jabs. Believe me, this is a mental strategy that works in sparring. Lalo kung yung kalaban mo parang nakakaloko pa mukha pag napupuruhan ka. All the adrenalin flowing its so tempting to just be reckless, and before you know it? Boom! Lights out! good night.

[Edmund Dantes]

naghihintay lang si Mayweather ng panahon na humina kahit konti ang punching power at bumagal ang hand speed ni Pacquaio before nya labanan

 

duwag si Mayweather pero matalinong duwag

Pwede, parang si Sugar Ray Leonard. Inantay medyo humina si Hagler bago nilabanan. Tapos nung nanalo via highly disputed nagretire at di na binigyan rematch....

 

But on the other hand, with his caliber, skill, and size alam nyang kayang kaya nya si Pacquiao. No he will of course not fight toe to toe. Hed rather use his own aggressiveness against him.

 

I think its more of ego really ng parehong camp kung bakit di ito matuloy tuloy. Floyd wants to dictate terms from a business perspective because he is the one that brings money to the table. He does not wanna do business with Pac's promoter due to bad history. Si Pacquiao naman, I believe he wants this fight, and maybe willing to give in to the conditions, but when his management team advices him negotiations fall apart. Sana nga sila lang dalawa magusap.