PacMan's Corner

[photographer]

Yes, enough of fighting Jurassic boxers.

 

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The younger boxers kasi are like "journeyman" boxers. After the boxers fought by PacMan, wala na talagang natural strong fighters. Some have records like 20-0; 15-0; but if you look closely at the backgrounds of their opponents....what? sino yun? parang mga tambay lang sa Bronx. And, boxing is business, just like mga business natin. The lesser known credible opponent, the lesser box office. So sino pa ba ang hindi Jurassic boxers sa weight class nila Dela Hoya, Pacman. Si Marquez? Jurassic na rin...Well, maybe, si Hatton. More money, more glory.!

[tabouki]

good read & listen:

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/

 

'Filipino' Arum blasts his fellow countryman

By Steve Cofield

 

 

There's nothing like a boxing post-fight press conference for sheer lunacy and hilarity. The post-fight presser included media members from all over the world and 500 or so fans who were "credentialed" which made the proceedings barely audible. Manny Pacquiao fans were estatic led by promoter Bob Arum and Filipino writer Recah Trinidad. But when the Philippine Inquirer's Trinidad tried to talk some trash to Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy promotion stable-mate Bernard Hopkins, Arum launched into a mini-tirade:

"We just want some clarification," said objective media member Trinidad. "You told us Manny Pacquiao would go to school but he sent Oscar to the hospital instead."

In a move remiscent of Michael Katz screaming "chicken De La Hoya" from the back of a crowded media room at a past Golden Boy fight, Trinidad (pictured on the right) then slinked down in his chair as "Brooklyn, Philippines-native" Arum scolded him:

"We're Filipinos and we don't gloat. We take pride in what Manny does but we do not gloat."

Click below to listen to the Arum/Trinidad/Hopkins exchange:

 

Hopkins went on to say Pacquiao was the better man.

Photo via Getty Images

Edited December 9, 2008 by tabouki

[Mild Casanova]

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As a former boxer during my younger years, I know how it feels when one tries to loose weight. Iba ang boxing kasi. Unlike in basketball, pwedeng magpahinga. In the case of dela hoya, yes, he WAS a great boxer but, really, ang hirap dumepensa kapag nanlalamig na ang pakiramdam mo after absorbing such beating. You have to defend yourself from an onslaught. Pacman did what he did best, suntok sa bodega then suntok sa ulo. So hard to defend such onslaught. I know the reason why delahoya was not throwing many punches. He was in hell during those time. Di lang natin nararamdaman pero, I assure you, the PAIN, the PAIN is reaping his inner body during the 2nd up to the last round. You can see through his movements. He was trying to box out of sheer mental state but his body was saying" ayoko na, please" Parang may ginugulping mandurukot sa quiapo, observe this, maraming bumubugbog sa kanya and mahirap depensahan ang sarili kasi your body is paralyzed by the continous blows. THAT was what happened and what was felt by Dela Hoya. So, I disagree with Al Mendoza, on his comments on why Dela Hoya stopped throwing punches in the latter rounds. Di kasi niya nalalaman ang nararamdaman ng fighters like me (mas lalo kung nagpababa ka ng timbang). You will really feel HELL ! A minute will run like an hour, wait ka ng wait sa final bell !

 

Maraming naloko sa boksing na ito. Mga media at so-called boxing experts. Sa totoo lang benta ito noon pa. This is all about money. Don't pity De la hoya because he is laughing his way to the bank! Scripted nga pero di halata kasi pang-Oscar ang drama niya. Read everything DLH said before the fight because he was already giving a hint. Ha ha ha! Bilib ako sa iyo Al Mendosa. Nakita mo ang moro-moro. Sori na lang sa mga naloko. Sabagay sanay naman naloloko ang mga pilipino di ba ha ha ha! Tsk tsk tsk For those in the know, boxing is the refuge of scoundrels! Don't take it personal though 'cause it's all about economics he he he!

[photographer]

Maraming naloko sa boksing na ito. Mga media at so-called boxing experts. Sa totoo lang benta ito noon pa. This is all about money. Don't pity De la hoya because he is laughing his way to the bank! Scripted nga pero di halata kasi pang-Oscar ang drama niya. Read everything DLH said before the fight because he was already giving a hint. Ha ha ha! Bilib ako sa iyo Al Mendosa. Nakita mo ang moro-moro. Sori na lang sa mga naloko. Sabagay sanay naman naloloko ang mga pilipino di ba ha ha ha! Tsk tsk tsk For those in the know, boxing is the refuge of scoundrels! Don't take it personal though 'cause it's all about economics he he he!

 

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Evidence? Hard evidence? Or just haka-haka? Just sheer imagination. Benta nuon pa? Sez who? Name names. If wala, its just ones imagination. Pero you are absolutely right on economics. hehehe! We all need money money money and pride pride pride. Pero wag lang bugbog.

 

Weighing in on the fight

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By Ed Picson

 

Like everyone else, I was shocked at Oscar de la Hoya’s performance against Manny Pacquiao the other day. Actually, it was more like a non-performance.

 

Freddie Roach was so on the money when he said ODLH could no longer pull the trigger. Heck, Oscar came in unarmed last Sunday.

 

He tried a lame "My style is to go forward. Manny Pacquiao fought well on his toes and waited for me to make a mistake" excuse but we all know better.

 

Manny on the other hand came prepared to do battle. He entered the arena wearing a big grin, loose and bouncy, waving to the crowd and looking every bit the confident and eager warrior.

 

Oscar looked emaciated, glum, unsmiling and acted like a condemned man being led to the gallows.

 

Further analyses will serve no useful purpose at this time. Everyone saw what happened.

 

To be sure, there are different takes on the fight and Manny Pacquiao. We were curious as to how friends and acquaintances felt the day after the Sunday before. This is what I got:

 

Maria Montelibano, TV director: "The reactions of Filipinos worldwide simply affirm our need for heroes; the young especially showed their search for nobility and knights in shining armor."

 

Chot Reyes, coach, Talk ’N Text Tropang Texters: "What a testament to HEART, great COACHING, EXECUTION and Filipino pride."

 

Governor Oscar S. Moreno, Misamis Oriental: "Pacquiao has made us proud to be Filipinos once again. Yes, the Filipino can!"

 

Arben Santos, businessman: "Manny really prepared well. The added muscles in his upper body made him deliver stronger punches. Clearly Oscar struggled with the lower weight. Manny’s adrenaline flowed after the first round when he saw Oscar’s condition. A great day for Filipinos!"

 

Buddy Encarnado, ex-PBA chairman, board representative Sta. Lucia Realtors: "No doubt Manny has placed himself as the greatest Filipino boxer ever. I join the Filipino nation in celebrating his momentous feat at a time when everything in our country seems to be going bad."

 

Jess Mendoza, chairman, Letran Alumni Foundation Inc.: "A welcome surprise and thanks Manny, we needed that."

 

Freddie Ortiz, banker: "De la Hoya came out to make money and thought he could win with one lucky punch. Manny’s team-up with Roach was the clincher. Manny was his usual matapang and calculating self."

 

Willie Marcial, PBA Media Bureau chief: "Hindi nakaporma si Oscar. Pero tingin ko kahit nakaporma siya, talo pa rin siya sa mga galaw at suntok ni Manny."

 

Allan Gregorio, coach, Burger King: "Manny was all heart from the get go. Mabuhay ka, Manny! Mabuhay ang Pinoy!"

 

Atty. Lino Dumas, practicing lawyer: "Manny did his homework excellently. Epitomized the diligent and hard-working Filipino. Kudos Manny!"

 

Dominic Uy, sports commentator: "Domination by Pacquiao! Great win, but a bit disappointed. I expected a better fight."

 

Danny Espiritu, player agent/businessman: "In my mind, Manny fights best when he is the underdog. He’s the greatest in his class."

 

Michael Aldeguer, President, ALA Promotions: "Awesome! Fought an excellent fight that would be talked about for decades."

 

Meloy Casas, architect: "Great tactical fight by Pacquiao!"

 

Minnie Carbonell, businesswoman: "While Manny prepared well, Oscar did not give him a good fight. It seems he fought for the money and the right to promote the Pacquiao-Hatton fight."

 

Dong Capinpuyan, TV Director: "Manny is up there with Henry Armstrong as one of the greatest all-time pound for pound boxers."

 

Anthony Suntay, sports commentator: "Manny’s win just proves what a special athlete he is. Some say Oscar is old, or always over-rated, but we should focus on the fact that Manny is a special, once in a lifetime athlete."

 

Raul Laurente, talent manager: "Manny has improved immensely, very fast on offense, careful in defense. One more win and he can be elected senator."

 

Conrad Chan, proprietor Jaffas car accessories shop: "Nakakahiya si de la Hoya!"

 

Ray Roquero, director, PCSO: "A masterpiece, an incredible showcase of sheer, sweet courage and magnificence that epitomized the Filipino’s indomitable will and human spirit to triumph. Manny’s victory burned so bright it choked my throat and burned my eyes."

 

Atty. Romulo Macalintal, presidential lawyer: "Pacquiao proved wrong all the so-called boxing experts here in the States like Angelo Dundee, Hatton and Hopkins. As I said before the fight, what happened when Cassius Clay was a 1-7 underdog to Sonny Liston would be repeated. And it was."

 

Jason Webb, ex-PBA player, sports commentator: "Pacquiao is a boxing god."

 

Atty. Bert Neri, practicing lawyer: "Unbelievable! I’ve never seen Manny fight that way. Oscar looked old and tired."

 

Sonny Barrios, PBA Commissioner: "Awesome!"

 

Bruce McTavish, international boxing referee: "Manny beat the idea that a good big man beats a good small man. He now rightfully should be rated as maybe the greatest Filipino boxer ever!"

 

Cucuy Elorde, boxing gym owner: "With the win, Pacman proved his remarkable power and skills. Truly a great champion!"

 

Boyet Fernandez, coach, Sta. Lucia Realtors: "Proud to be a Filipino. He deserves to be the #1 pound for pound. De la Hoya should retire."

 

Herman Salvador (Brod Pete), comedian, writer: "Sorry just woke up. Manny won? Against whom? When was this?"

[overdrive2506]

mabuhay c pacman!!!

[djrs]

oh sino gusto CRAB? sarap kumain.. ang dami ditong Crab ah? pero mas maraming Believer na!

 

daldal ng daldal ang iba dyan parang ang daming alam..

 

si david diaz lightweight champion is only 32years old nung tinalo ni pacman.. at syempre first time bumagsak ni Diaz sa career nya ng ganun katindi..

 

si Lehlohonolo Ledwaba super bantamweight champ is 30yrs. old at tinalo sya ni pacman TKO at 6rd.

 

si Juan Manuel Marquez is 30 years old nung kinalaban nya si Pacman nung first fight nila.. pero ano nangyari? its a DRAW! pero ano sabi nung isang judge? nagkamali sya sa scoring! ibig sabihin panalo si pacman dapat..

 

pero move on ika nga... hinahabol sya ni pacman para rematch pero ayun natalo si Juan Marquez kay Chris John! nakakahiya diba? ngayon si JMM ang habol ng habol kay pacman..

 

 

tapos sasabihin nyo wala na sa prime yung mga kinalaban nya? si hopkins nga tinalo ang mas batang PAVLIK..

 

si Gerry Penalosa champion parin pero matanda na sya..

 

palibhasa di nyo nararanasan masuntok sa bodega..... kaya sasabihin ng iba dito na benta ang laban... na mafia ang laban. na luto ang laban...

 

Hayyyzz... natuwa pa ako sa iba dito na against dati kay pacman pero ngayon believer na...

 

kesa dun sa feeling Boxing analyst... magsamasama kayo ni AL-AL Mendoza...

[howarddeduct]

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The younger boxers kasi are like "journeyman" boxers. After the boxers fought by PacMan, wala na talagang natural strong fighters. Some have records like 20-0; 15-0; but if you look closely at the backgrounds of their opponents....what? sino yun? parang mga tambay lang sa Bronx. And, boxing is business, just like mga business natin. The lesser known credible opponent, the lesser box office. So sino pa ba ang hindi Jurassic boxers sa weight class nila Dela Hoya, Pacman. Si Marquez? Jurassic na rin...Well, maybe, si Hatton. More money, more glory.!

Pacman vs. T-Rex is the next big thing!

[chapschaps]

:thumbsupsmiley: :thumbsupsmiley: :thumbsupsmiley: :thumbsupsmiley: :thumbsupsmiley: pacquiao!!!

[gift_of_game]

Pacman vs. T-Rex is the next big thing!

 

will the T-Rex get 60 percent?

:upside:

[howarddeduct]

^No, it's the other way around now. Pacman will get 60%. Kung kayang kaya ni Barkley si Godzilla, sisiw lang ito kay Pacman.

[gift_of_game]

well, you gotta coax the T-Rex out of retirement first.

saka yung kay Barkley, scripted yun.

:hypocritesmiley:

[djrs]

yung mga maka AL-AL mendoza at mga nagsasabi na Binenta ni Oscar ang laban...

 

Tumaya nalang kayo sa Lotto! 10 at 20 pesos lang matatalo nyo... hindi pa masakit sa loob.. Bilog kasi ang Bola dun..

 

sa Boxing walang bola. Walang Manang BOLA dun.. hehehehe.

[dragonei]

Im a Pacquiao fan but when I saw the pay per view main event video, clearly, nilaglag ni dela joya ang laban niya. from round 2 to 8. Wala akong nakitang counter punch na style niya..lahat ng patama niya walang pwersa..Sa pagitan ng mga punches niya ang tagal..hindi na nga siya dumedepensa.. pati nga mga trainer niya nagulat as I quote " You have to throw some punches or this game is finish". Panoorin nyo yung main event video ung walang commercial.

 

 

Bakit nya naman ihuhulog sariling laban na prinomote nya? I could not see any logical reason why he would do that. What for?

 

He has got more money than manny pacquiao. He promoted this fight and got a bigger slice in the cake for being in it. So the angle of ODLH being paid to take the dive is out. I mean who would pay him to do that. Not only is he the highest paid boxer of all time but he is a sucessful promoter.

 

Why on earth would he subject himself trough all that physical punishment, and be humiliated around the world? What logical explanation would that be? He would risk ruining his reputation and not to mention law suits if he actually did something like that. What kind of an idiot would make such risk? Whats worth all that for a hall of famer like him.

 

True OLDH should somehow deserve criticism for his luckluster performance but consider the following

 

1.) He was going down weight, and its easier for a fighter to go down wieght than to go upweight. You can tell during the weigh in that he was dry as a dessert stone

 

2.) Manny was awesomely blinding fast. I have seen all MPs recent fight, and he gets faster and faster with each of them. He has not been this fast in the previous fights. The way I see it manny gets better everytime. and it was simply a good move for him to go upweight as he was already having problems staying at 130.

 

3.) OLDH was simply confused. I mean he did not have a correct strategy. His plan was to use his reach advange by fending his opponent with stiff jabs and moving forward. Smartly manny circles on his left where he could not make that straight line. ODLH did not expect that

 

4.) Boxing is also a psychological game kung mapapansin nyo, nangigigil na si OLDH kay manny on some later rounds kasi di nya manuetralize yung bilis nya

 

5.) Simply putting it his time was up. I mean oldh is a great fighter. He has nothing to be ashamed of 10 time world champion, and the highest paid boxer in the sport ever. But he was not as fast and as strong as he used to be

 

All boxer's will eventually erode in time. The fights take a toll on you. This will surely happen to manny also, unless he chooses to quit while he is ahead.

[mrpinoi]

nung bagong sign ang match up nila dami nagsasabi walang magagawa si pacman masyadong maliit mismatch etc etc,ngayon nanalo na naging matanda naman si dela hoya,benta laban what the hell hindi ba pwedeng sabihin na kaya nanalo si pacquiao eh dahil mabilis sya at mas magaling sya nang gabing yun

[gift_of_game]

hey, 20 mil is 20 mil.

let's stop romanticizing other people's boxing legacies like it's our own.

this is hardly a spot-free sport.

they fight in Las Vegas for crying out loud.

Edited December 9, 2008 by gift_of_game