PacMan's Corner

[dragonei]

Hay naku, my thoughts on the guy

 

Well Its no secret at matagal ko ng sinabi that I do not believe he is fighting for our country. He is figthing for money period! All that fancy speech about "pagkakaisa" was a marketing strategy so wed buy all the product he endorses, but most of all so that we would all subscribe to PPV.

 

Dati rati ni hindi gagastos pinoy for a movie ticket, manonood na lang sa pirated. Pero make them believe that by supporting manny they support the philippines, na ang tagumpay ni manny, tagumpay ng pinoy, everybody shells out 500 pesos per ticket to watch the bout.

 

Kawawa talaga pilipinas without manny pacquiao its nothing but a third world country.

 

But I can respect what a man does for a living. I agree that in a way he should be an inspiration, but come on we are over rating the guy. Lets not make him into something he is not. He is a boxer period. Tingin ko hindi ang mga critics nya ang sumisira sa kanya kung di yung mga taong masyadong naglalagay sa kanya sa pedestal

 

Tawa ako ng tawa sa pacquaio ara mina issue. Ang mga showbiz reporters nga naman oh, kahit kumalkal ng ebak mkagawa lang ng issue para tumaas ratings, gagawin.

 

The only reason malilink si Manny kay Ara ay dahil sikat siya period. Eh itsurang itsura pa lang ni hindi papasang taga bitbit ng tsinelas ni Ara si Manny Pacquiao.

 

Oh come on people, MP has many outstanding qualities, but if you say he is handsome, then you are a liar!

 

Sino ba maniniwalang papatulan ni Ara Mina si Manny Pacquaio kung di naman siya ganun kasikat? Eh kahit pa me sex video sila I doubt it kung kakagatin yan ng mga baklang showbiz reporters.

 

Kahit magdamit pa ng mamahalin si manny, wala pa din siyang pinagkaiba sa mga kargador sa divisoria kung pagtatabihin. Pero Ok lang yan, di naman nakukuha sa porma o pagwapuhan ang boksing eh.

 

Pero untill he has that belt on his waist plaplastikin lagi siya ni Boy Abunda at Kris at sasabihang gwapo siya

 

Sasabihan ng GMA talent center na magaling siyang kumanta kahit pa ni isang nota hindi tumatama

[wizard23]

I think that Manny is not just fighting for money but for the country as well. kahit nga si Barrera sabi nya before the fight e the Philippines will be shocked. imagine, he's aware na dala ni Manny ang Pilipinas ie he represents our country everytime he fights. This is not to take away that he's fighting for the money. of course, kaya nga sya nag boxing para maiahon ang family niya e swinerte ang kolokoy, he got more than he wished for.

 

Ang ayaw ko lang ke MP, i think with all the fame and wealth he has now, kala nya ay matutuwa ang mga tao sa kanya kung anumang larangan ang pasukin niya. take for instance, politics. he failed. now what's he's trying to do? nag-aaral. for what? para masabing me degree sya sa pol sci (pol sci nga ba?) and then ticket na nya to para tumakbo uli???

 

He should stick to boxing. period... and make the most out of it while he's still in his prime. and after boxing, he can live the rest of his life with all the millions he got and just take care of his family and businesses. kung gusto nya mas bagay na associated sya with boxing even after retirement- set up foundations, charities, build boxing gyms, etc., tulungan yung mga kapuspalad nating mga boksingero. hindi yung magiging artista sya, gagawa ng sine, mag proproduce pa. tapos kakanta pa. di pa ba sya kuntento sa mga San Miguel commercials niya? dun pa lang ay set na sya for life. so what more does he want? so medyo nalasing na ata sya sa fame and wealth niya. and so i think many people are taking advantage of the guy like GMA station na kahit hindi naman bagay sa showbiz ay pinatulan pa rin nila and of course, our beloved president GMA. kala naman ni GMA, tataas ang rating nya everytime ine endorse sya ni MP.

Edited October 15, 2007 by wizard23

[ichi]

i blame the politicians and the pasipsip individuals for corrupting the PACMAN.

[edc]

Dami nyo nabola ni Manny.....Ok lang i cheer nyo si manny pero kalokohan na laban ng mga pinoy yan......

 

Kasi once simula matalo yan eh magkakalimutan na.....mga pinoy pa naman madali makalimot......

 

Remember The Hawaian Punch Brian Villoria.......Dinedma na ng Channel 2 and Channel 7 Kahit nga dito wala na nagpopost about him.....

 

So ang boxing eh boxing lang.....wag nyo masyado dibdibin.....

 

Ako mas matuwa na bumababa ang dolyar......Pag umabot ng 20 pesos ang 1 dollars sobrang saya ko......Pag naging 10 pesos magwawala ako sa tuwa......Pag naging 2 pesos.....UNREAL

Edited October 15, 2007 by edc

[dragonei]

Dami nyo nabola ni Manny.....Ok lang i cheer nyo si manny pero kalokohan na laban ng mga pinoy yan......

 

Kasi once simula matalo yan eh magkakalimutan na.....mga pinoy pa naman madali makalimot......

 

Remember The Hawaian Punch Brian Villoria.......Dinedma na ng Channel 2 and Channel 7 Kahit nga dito wala na nagpopost about him.....

 

So ang boxing eh boxing lang.....wag nyo masyado dibdibin.....

 

Ako mas matuwa na bumababa ang dolyar......Pag umabot ng 20 pesos ang 1 dollars sobrang saya ko......Pag naging 10 pesos magwawala ako sa tuwa......Pag naging 2 pesos.....UNREAL

 

Hell yeah! A boxer is as good as his last fight. I hope Manny learns to quit while he is still ahead

[SweetEmotion]

before = manny pacquiao

after = money pacquiao

[skitz]

Will Manny ever become penniless? Hmmm... Navarette, Espinosa... both professional boxing world title holders... now both penniless. Navarette is a beggar. Espinosa is a dishwasher in the US.

 

But is that really a fair comparison? If you combine the total career earnings of the two (Espinosa and Navarette), they would not amount to ONE Manny Pacquiao fight (since he beat M. Barrera the first time). Manny's last paycheck is around 5 M USD. Luisito Espinosa's biggest paycheck is around 150 K USD. No match... even if you factor in inflation. Manny is on a league all his own. Espinosa would probably have made more money if he was Manny Pacquiao's sparring mate.

 

The closest Filipino big moneymaker is Gabriel Flash Elorde. And today, even after his death so many years ago, his children are still profiting from the investments he's made. Elorde owns a COLISEUM (!) ... and houses...

 

It is possible for Manny to lose all his fotune still... but it will take MONUMENTAL STUPIDITY for that to happen. Let us pray that he is NOT that stupid.

[edc]

WBC: Marquez must defend crown vs Pacquiao

 

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/...rticle_id=95140

Inquirer

Last updated 03:44am (Mla time) 10/18/2007

 

 

MANILA, Philippines -- The World Boxing Council has issued another call for super featherweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico to defend his title against Filipino star Manny Pacquiao in his next fight.

 

Marquez is slated to defend his title against Rocky Juarez on Nov. 3, and should he come out victorious, WBC president Jose Sulaiman wants him to stake his 130-lb title against Pacquiao.

 

If Juarez pulls off an upset, Sulaiman said he would also be mandated to defend against the Filipino boxing icon.

 

Sulaiman told Boxingscene in an interview that he believes that Marquez and Pacquiao are willing to fight each other again despite failed efforts to bring both fighters together in the ring.

 

“If he (Manny) declines for a third time, then I think he doesn’t want to fight Marquez, and we have to go our way,” noted Sulaiman.

 

Sulaiman said the Marquez-Pacquiao rematch should be held in the first quarter of 2008 “because there are no other television dates for the rest of the year, and they cannot do without the television, because it’s a big money fight. So I believe that’s going to be a great opportunity at the beginning of the year.”

 

The WBC had also ordered Marquez to fight Pacquiao in a mandatory defense after his dethronement of Marco Antonio Barrera early in the year.

 

But the Marquez and Pacquiao camps couldn’t agree on the purse and the Filipino ended up fighting Barrera again and winning their rematch by unanimous decision last Oct. 7.

 

Marquez came back from three knockdowns in the first round to forge a draw with Pacquiao in his defense of the World Boxing Association-International Boxing Federation featherweight title in 2004.

 

Meanwhile, Sulaiman also announced that after the WBC Convention in Manila, the WBC is going to hold two separate tributes to acknowledge the brilliant careers of Erik Morales and Barrera.

 

For Morales, the plan is to hold the celebration in his hometown of Tijuana in Mexico.

 

Barrera wants it either in Mexico City or Guadalajara, which is his current home.

 

The WBC has made it a point not to hold both affairs in one venue owing to the bad blood between the two boxing legends.

 

“If they don’t like each other, and there is so much controversy between them, I believe that it would be cynicism if we do the ceremony for both at the same time. So definitely the events will be separate,” explained Sulaiman. Salven L. Lagumbay, contributor

[hardtohandle]

Dalawang beses na pala umaayaw si Manny kay JMM eh...

[boy anis]

oo nga..

bakit kaya? siguro mahina angkita nya dun? guys tanung lang din kung ang makukuha ba ni pacman ay 5m ganun din ba dapat sakalaban? :goatee:

[skitz]

I can't really blame Manny for not being too excited about fighting JMM. As proven in their first fight, JMM's style of contra-tiempo is a hard problem for Manny to solve. And in the last 6 or so fights of his career, why risk all the potential mega-buck fights he can do if he maintains the air of invincibility he now exudes? I'd say, he is better off bundling off that tricycle-driver-demolisher Valero first (an easy win I think), then maybe go up in the lightweight, and fight a mediocre lightweight first, before going for the belt. Let the JMM problem be solved by someone else, then fight that someone else (who can beat JMM) in another mega-buck fight. If JMM keeps his title for another 2-3 fights, only then will it be UNAVOIDABLE for Manny to face that BIG PROBLEM.

[edc]

I can't really blame Manny for not being too excited about fighting JMM. As proven in their first fight, JMM's style of contra-tiempo is a hard problem for Manny to solve. And in the last 6 or so fights of his career, why risk all the potential mega-buck fights he can do if he maintains the air of invincibility he now exudes? I'd say, he is better off bundling off that tricycle-driver-demolisher Valero first (an easy win I think), then maybe go up in the lightweight, and fight a mediocre lightweight first, before going for the belt. Let the JMM problem be solved by someone else, then fight that someone else (who can beat JMM) in another mega-buck fight. If JMM keeps his title for another 2-3 fights, only then will it be UNAVOIDABLE for Manny to face that BIG PROBLEM.

 

Kung manalo daw si Juan Manuel kay Rocky eh no choice si Pacquiao na maglaban sila.....

[skitz]

Kung manalo daw si Juan Manuel kay Rocky eh no choice si Pacquiao na maglaban sila.....

Even without the belt, Manny is the golden-paycheck fighter of the moment. Of course Manny has a CHOICE! What is the WBC or WBA to do? Strip him of the belt (he is not holding)? Eto sina Sulaiman kasi, they want a piece of the action (money). Nagiging irrelevant na kasi ang mga title belts (ang dami kasing boxing governing councils). I am just hoping that Manny and his managers recognize this fact. I do want to see Manny fight JMM again (a good one I think)... but only after Manny puts more money in his bank account. Boxing is a cruel sport. It is a young man's game. Manny should do well to make hay while the sun still shines. I do not want him have the fate of Luisito Espinosa, trying to re-capture the glory that once was his, but failed to make the most of.

[dragonei]

Will Manny ever become penniless? Hmmm... Navarette, Espinosa... both professional boxing world title holders... now both penniless. Navarette is a beggar. Espinosa is a dishwasher in the US.

 

But is that really a fair comparison? If you combine the total career earnings of the two (Espinosa and Navarette), they would not amount to ONE Manny Pacquiao fight (since he beat M. Barrera the first time). Manny's last paycheck is around 5 M USD. Luisito Espinosa's biggest paycheck is around 150 K USD. No match... even if you factor in inflation. Manny is on a league all his own. Espinosa would probably have made more money if he was Manny Pacquiao's sparring mate.

 

The closest Filipino big moneymaker is Gabriel Flash Elorde. And today, even after his death so many years ago, his children are still profiting from the investments he's made. Elorde owns a COLISEUM (!) ... and houses...

 

It is possible for Manny to lose all his fotune still... but it will take MONUMENTAL STUPIDITY for that to happen. Let us pray that he is NOT that stupid.

 

Well anybody who has established himself from rags to riches and stayed that way will tell you the same thing Im gonna say.

 

Its not just how much you earn but how you take care of what you earn. The more people earn the more they spend. Noong isang kahig at isang tuka pa lang si pacquiao ni hindi siguro yan pupusta ng singko sa tong-its. Pero ngaun 300K na talo sa sabong tinatawanan pa niya.

 

Di lang si espinosa at si Navarette, sali mo pa dyan si Mike Tyson, probably the highest paid heavyweight of all time, and he got bankrupt. Hindi lang so boxing, isama mo dyan sina MC hammer, and in a matter of time si brittney spears. Kahit ba madami kang investment kung di mo naman inaalagaan malulugi ka din, at gugulangan ka pa ng mga kasosyo mo.

 

What manny should do is get people that he can trust. Judge people by their character and credibility and not just by how much this people kiss his ass. He definetly should fire the lawyer that got him in that golden boy-top rank mess. Because obviously swapang yung abugadong yun at ginamit lang si manny para kumita. Hindi ba me balita pa na ninakawan siya ng isa sa mga campaign managers nya?

 

But I salute Manny for going back to school. I hope he is serious about it equally as boxing. Madaming gusto subukan si Manny pagmomodelo, pagiging singer, at pagiging artista, but of all that mabuti naman at gusto nya makapagtapos ng pagaaral. Thankfully somebody is giving this guy a good advice. At least he will get a title of which he will hold forver, because once that WBC belt is not on his waist no more, I doubt it kung maalala pa siya ng tao. Oh come on! don't give that filipino support bullshit. Susuportahan siya ng Pilipino hangang nananalo siya, at iiwan din pag nalaos na. They love him as long as he wins, but will hate him as soon as he starts loosing. Ngayon ba meron pa sa ating pumapansin kay Brian Villoria?

[skitz]

Yes, Dragonei, I will not sell that "Filipinos will love him forever" bullshit. In fact, I want someone close to Manny to keep reminding him of that fact! He has to make hay while the sun shines! And fast. His boxing career is 2-3 years to go tops and then he should retire, and not embarrass himself by fighting when he's already lost his skills.

 

But the positive things I see in Manny (aside from the schooling thing), is that he is INVESTING. Lands. Houses. Ok... cars... but cars depreciate, unlike land which appreciates. He's got a nice house in Paranaque that has a training gym open to the public. Kahit pa washed-up fighter na si Manny, at eto na lang ang matira sa kanyang kayamanan, and he has averted the fate of Navarrette and Espinosa. Manny and his family can live on that property. It may not be the high-jet-setting life, but he will never need to beg for money.