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Julianda

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    God's moral code

    in Religion, Philosophy & Personal Reflection

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    I belong under the umbrella group of what you call atheists -- in my experience there are many different kinds of atheists, just as there are many denominations within christianity (fundamentalists, lutherans, roman catholics), and still more variations of belief in god (christians, muslims, the jewish).

     

    Since atheists do not give much authority to revelation or anything "god-given" then yes, we really do try to build ourselves a moral code from the ground up. Sometimes these moral codes coincide with something that other religions have, the Golden Mean being the obvious example. Sometimes this moral code is based on a person's reason or sense of fairness, sometimes it's based on selfish desire, so just as christianity and islam has it's share of bad apples, so does atheism.

     

    When you say 'just two examples of purely random man-made "moral" standards' what exactly do you mean? That you chose two random examples of atheist thought, or that atheists just came up with these randomly? Because the latter is insulting, it implies that atheists pull their ideas of right and wrong out of their asses without much thought. If that is what you think of atheists, then you're really starting off on the wrong foot.

     

    Also, are you saying that ONLY atheists believe in legalized abortion and gay marriage? Because that's utterly ludicrous - Ellen Degeneres believes in god. She's not roman catholic, but she's not an atheist either.

     

    Ellen DeGeneres was raised a Christian Scientist (but considers herself now as non-religious). It is a sect of Christianity that does not believe people should see doctors ( or any health professional ) or take medication. People in that religion believe in Holy Ghost but heaven and hell are just states of mind.

     

    As for the topic, let me assert this mainly that most of the rational people believe in objective morality. Like, why do people generally think that some actions are ‘right’ and some actions are ‘wrong’ regardless of people’s subjective opinions? Why do most people believe that it is ‘evil’ or ‘wicked’ for someone to steal something (killing, too, is a form of stealing one’s life) etc.

     

    Because, it is noted by a certain evolutionist Edward Slingerland, humans have metaphysical rights. Rights that are “a reality beyond what is perceptible to the senses” and “rely on moral values”. In fact, most people (even many atheists) admitted that real, objective good and evil do exist.

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