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Bakit nga puede lang ang sagot mo at hindi mo puedeng ipaliwanag kung bakit ang sagot mo ay puede? Naintindihan mo ba?
Ako ay nagbabackread at yung mga pagsagot mo ay patanong? Bakit nga ba patanong?
... itatanong ko uli sa iyo, sa iyong opinion, pwede ba o hindi pwede ang sagot-na-patanong?
... ngayon kung ayon sa iyong opinion ay pwede ang sagot-na-patanong, then, iyon ang sagot ko sa kung bakit patanong ang sagot ko, kasi pwede,
... pero, kung ayon naman sa iyong opinion ay hindi pwede ang sagot-na-patanong, then, pag-usapan kung bakit hindi pwede,
... intiende?
San ang rason sa pagsagot mo?
... hindi mo talaga makikita kung nagbubulag-bulagan ka.
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-Bakit mo hindi puedeng sagutin ang tanong na nagtatapos sa tuldok?
... sinagot ko na,
... heto't uulitin ko,
... hindi nga ba pwede ang sagot na patanong?
... pwede ba o hindi?
... kung pwede ang sagot, iyon ang dahilan ko sa pagsagot ng patanong, kasi pwede,
... ngayon kung hindi pwede ang sagot, bakit?
... nauunawaan mo na ba?
-Talaga? Saan ang sagot mo?... lawakan ang pang-unawa,
... imulat ang mata,
... tingin sa itaas,
... nakikita mo na?
... o sya, basa.
-Bakit mo nga hindi puedeng bigay ang rason sa pagsagot mo?... binigay ko na,
... ang kaso, hinihingi mo bang talaga ang rason sa pagsagot ko?
-Tapos ka na? Ano sa tingin mo?... hindi pa eh, hintay-hintay lang,
... naiinip ka na ba?
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-Bakit nga ba yung sagot mo ay patanong? Hindi ba puedeng nagtatapos sa tuldok?
... pwede ba o hindi ang sagot na patanong?
-Ang ano?... ang sagot na patanong.
-Bakit hindi mo puede sabihin ang rason sa pagsagot mo?... sinagot ko na, pero tila hirap ka lang umunawa.
-Bakit nga ba?... ikaw ang magsabi kung bakit hindi pwede, ikaw ang tila yata may problema sa sagot na patanong.
-Ano sa tingin mo?-Ano sa tingin mo?... tinitingnan ko pa, ano naman kaya sa tingin mo?
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-Bakit ka nagsasagot ng patanong? Hindi ba puedeng sagot na nagtatapos sa tuldok?
... hindi nga ba pwede ang sagot na patanong?
... pwede ba o hindi?
... kung pwede ang sagot, iyon and dahilan ko sa pagsagot ng patanong, kasi pwede,
... ngayon kung hindi pwede ang sagot, bakit?
-Tapos na nga ba?... sa palagay mo nga?
-Meron nga ba?... ano sa tingin mo?
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-Tanong ko lang, bakit puro tanong mga sagot mo?
... hindi ba pwede ang sagot na patanong?
-Tapos na nga ba ang usapan?... sa palagay mo?
-May validity nga ba?... sa akin ay meron, para sa iyo kaya?
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http://manilatonight...dpost&p=8199898
- Pinapasimple ko lang sinabi ni dungeonbaby. Naintindihan mo ba?
... at pinapaunawa ko nga sa iyo na kahit pasimplehin mo pa, ganun pa rin ang magiging sagot ko, nauunawaan mo ba?
... pwede naman pala eh,
... so, tapos na ang usapan?
... may kahulugan ang paglalagay ko ng diin sa salitang validity,
... ano naman kaya ang sa tingin mo?
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Now he is reacting again. Pls go back to your Atheism thread because this thread is designed for believers. Or go to the Fight thread so we can exchange ideas carefully and appropriately.
... o ba't di mo ginawa ung naisip mong s-t-r-a-t-e-g-y?
... sino ka nga uli? MVP3 ba?
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Another strategy of stopping her from continuously vandalizing our favorite religious thread is by not posting about her in the meantime. She seems to lack so much attention that's why she needs someone to share with her impractical out-of-this-world opinions only her mother could admire.
... "strategizing", naks, lupet,
... nakakapaglaan ka ng panahon para mag-strategize, pero wala kang panahon para sumagot at ipagtanggol ang sinabi mo't paniniwala,
... yan ba ang natutunan mo sa,
... saan nga uli?
... U.P. ba? Ateneo ba?
... at aling religious thread ba ang pinagsasabi mo?
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I think she likes it when I call her Ms Vherrah or Madam Vherrah. From now on I'm gonna give her a new monicker Ms Hambalusta coz she doesn't respect the religious beliefs of other people.
Another strategy of stopping her from continuously vandalizing our favorite religious thread is by not posting about her in the meantime. She seems to lack so much attention that's why she needs someone to share with her impractical out-of-this-world opinions only her mother could admire.
... wow! tila yata may pagkakatulad?
... teka, kailan ba nalikha ang account na MVP3?
... April 7, 2012,
... hmmm, amoy isda,
... yan pala ang democracy, paramihan,
... paramihan ng ginagamit na account?
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I think she likes it when I call her Ms Vherrah or Madam Vherrah. From now on I'm gonna give her a new monicker Ms Hambalusta coz she doesn't respect the religious beliefs of other people.
... kung sinasabi kong hindi ako naniniwala sa dios mo, na patunayan mo muna, kabastusan na ba para sa iyo yun?
... balat-sibuyas ka pala, iha?
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So that means nobody likes the opinion of Madam Vherrah anymore. She is undesirable! All for disturbing the believers here who are all willing to die for God!
... wow, katulad ng mentalidad ng mga taong responsable sa 9/11,
... may ipinangako bang mga birhen ang dios mo sa yo sa kabilang-buhay?
... at kung sakali, anong birhen ba ang gusto mo, babae ba,
... o lalaki?
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No. It's already -20 Very Bad reputation for Vherr!
... at yan ang natutunan mo,
... sa U.P. ba o / at Ateneo?
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The lifespan of most non-believers is way shorter than the believers.
Now therefore k*ll every male among the little ones, and k*ll every woman that hath known man by lying with him. (Num31:17 KJV)
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. (Num31:18 KJV)
And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. (Deu 3:6 KJV)
... oo nga, patay ang mga non-believers,
... lahat ng non-believers, patay,
... walang tinirang buhay,
... matanong ko lang, base sa morality na pinaniniwalaan mong mula sa dios mo, sang-ayon ka ba sa ginawa ng mga Israelita?
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So Vherr continues to "preach" to the believers concerning his wild wild wild views
... at hindi mo pa rin magawang ipagtanggol ang sinabi mo't paniniwala.
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"With a despair vast as Africa, Turnbull left the Ik and traveled back to civilization. When he returned a year later, after a flood season that had produced many plants, he discovered to his horror that, despite the abundant crops now rotting in the fields, the Ik had not changed."
Ackerman, Diane. A Natural History of Love. New York: Random House. 1995. pp. 144
... pero ano o anu-ano ang hindi nagbago?
... ang lahat ba ng sinabi ni Turnbull ukol sa Ik people ay hindi nabago?
... maging ito ba'y hindi nabago,
"... if an infant is born into their community and it's mother cannot feed that child, that mother is thrilled when she finds out that an animal has eaten her baby. there is no feeling of guilt there for being negligent. you could call that their version of the immediacy of experience."
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Kawawa naman si Ma'am Vherra, pinagtulungan nyo. bugbog sarado na yan. Iiyak na yan. Masyado na syang tumatangis
... opinion mo base sa iyong karanasan?
If I were you Ms Vherra, go to your room, lock the door. then pray!
... isa pang opinion base pa rin sa iyong karanasan?
Ms Vherra lacks the basic ability of a responsible person to read, reflect and ask questions before making some basic decisions. Basic pa lang yun eh. All his questions have actually been answered already by thomas Aquinas, Karl Rahner and Bernard Lonergan. But I don't want to quote anymore because Ms Vherra is not someone who's intelligent enough to digest some scholarly opinions of others.
... nasagot na?
... so, sinasabi mo bang napatunayan nila na totoo ang kanilang dios? talaga?
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Nobody wants to quote Vherr's opinion anymore. His impractical and unacceptable views are falling into the deep ocean where only the uncaring sharks can hear
... eh bakit ka apektado sa opinion ko kung ganyan lang pala ang tingin mo sa pananaw ko?
... bakit nga ba?
So far, Vherr has already a Bad -20 Reputation!
does he believe in democracy now? That's more than 100+ MTC members versus Vherr! And still counting!
Vox populi, Vox Dei!
... at ano ang kinalaman ng democracy sa dios mo?
... iyan ba ang paraan mo ng pagpapatunay na totoo ang paniniwala mo, paramihan?
nagkamali ng ginulong thread si Vherr. He just wants to disturb the peace of the believers.
... patunatayan mo nga na ang thread na ito ay para lamang sa mga believers.
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I totally agree with you Sir U.P. AdMU. Vherr remains very deaf, so let's not comment on whatever he says anymore. In short boycott Vherr's opinion.
... mahusay na argumento,
... "kapag hindi kayang sagutin, wag na lang pansinin".
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Baby boy Vherr is not supposed to be in this thread. He should transter to the "Fight" thread so he can meet UP AdMU there. Nobody wants to listen to be Vherr anymore. He's just getting so many negative comments.
I'll keep posting negative comments about Vherr here if he doesn't transfer to the Fight thread.
... at hindi mo pa rin magawang ipagtanggol ang sinabi mo't paniniwala,
... hanggang ngaun.
... at nuong una, Lake of Fire kamo,
... ngaun naman, posting negative comments about me,
... Pananakot lang ba ang alam mong argumento?
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You really cannot fully discuss God academically. I asked a lot of great theologians from Ateneo's Loyola School of Theology (that's the best theological school in Asia according to European scholars) most of whom have taught in great European and American universities, and they always emphasize some level of mystery whenever we discuss about God.
Take it from Dan Brown, one of the most controversial but very popular authors today, in the movie (and book) "Angels and Demons". In the character of Harvard prof Langdon, he said "faith is a gift which I am yet to receive".
... "some level of mystery"
... na ang ibig sabihin ba ay, "hindi ko kayang ipaliwanag, hindi ko kayang sagutin ang tanong mo, basta maniwala ka na lang"?
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Just let Ma'am Vherr be. She doesn't know anything about proper timing.
That's an irrelevant explanation Vherr.
... either tuta ka ng isang inis-talong member,
... or may isang inis-talong member dito na 2 ang gamit na account?
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I could be wrong but I think what dungeonbaby is trying to say is that there is a difference between arguing using someone else's beliefs and arguing combining (synthesizing) what you have learned from these beliefs to make your own argument using your beliefs based on other's beliefs. I'm not a philosophy major nor do I delve into philosophy so I won't argue with you here on this thread. I think it's not a requirement but it would be better to use your own beliefs than someone else's beliefs as per dungeonbaby.
.... uulitin ko, kung 100% kang sumasang-ayon sa isang idea, bakit mo babaguhin?
... kung naging "atheist" ako ng dahil sa mga idea na natutunan ko, hindi ko ba maaaring gamitin ang parehong idea sa anumang argumento ng dahil lamang sa hindi ito produkto ng isang "synthesis" o ng dahil sa hindi ko ito "orihinal" na idea?
... at ano ba ang mahalaga sa paggamit ng idea sa isang argumento, kung orihinal ba ito o ang validity nito?
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good for you, vherr! this kind of post i can actually understand.
1. if i remember correctly, after the severe famine, when turnbull returned to the Ik, he found that they had not changed their ways.
... at ang "basehan" mo ay "nasaan"?
2. ALL academic works have been questioned at one time or another, it is the nature of research. even your beloved dawkins. does that stop you from quoting him?
3. since friendly cited a tribe, i thought i'd do the same. neither examples change the veracity of the questions i posed. so someone post an answer.
... nagbigay ka ng impormasyon, nagbigay ako ng karagdagang impormasyon.
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there is a tribe called the Ik in Uganda who were studied by the anthropologist Colin Turnbull. they live only in the present. they have no moral compass because the only thing that matters is surviving. if an infant is born into their community and it's mother cannot feed that child, that mother is thrilled when she finds out that an animal has eaten her baby. there is no feeling of guilt there for being negligent. you could call that their version of the immediacy of experience.
From <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ik_people>
"Much of the work, however, focuses on the then-current condition of the Ik people during a severe famine brought on by two consecutive drought years... "
"While highly popular, the book was controversial, and the accuracy and methodology of Turnbull's work has been questioned..."
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God's moral code
in Religion, Philosophy & Personal Reflection
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... hindi naman,
... tinitingnan ko pa kasi,
... ang kaso, iniingatan ko kasing mabuti ang pagtingin kaya mabagal,
... naiinip ka na ba?
... pero teka, tinanong rin kita kung ano naman ang sa tingin mo,
... hindi kaya ikaw ang nahihirapan?