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ang akala mo nakakasupalpal ka kapag di na sinasagot ang post mo.
pero ang totoo, tumitigil na lang sila sa walang kwentang pakikipagtalo.
humahaba lang ang usapan, wala namang kinapupuntahan.
... so, bakit ka sumasagot pa?
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^^^puro motherhood statements... sheesh ... alang kwenta.
... likas sa tao ang maghinanakit kapag nasusupalpal,
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Hinde pa ho ba matibay na basehan ang mga tarpaulin na nakakalat sa kalye? Eh yung kotongan ng mga traffic enforcers sa mga siyudad at munisipalidad epal pa rin po bang matatawag ang mga nagrereklamo?
... so kung nakatitiyak ka palang lehitimo,
... kung tiyak mong may matibay kang basehan,
... paano ang tamang pagrereklamo?
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Matatawag po bang epal kung ang taong bayan ay may lehitimong rason upang magreklamo?
... iyon ay kung lehitimo,
... kung may matibay na basehan.
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May karapatang umepal ang taong bayan dahil pera nila ang ginagamit ng mga epal. Bwekekekekeke!
... epal breeds epal.
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Mahirap ho iyan lalo na kung ang lugar mo ay pinamumunuan ng mga epal.
... mahirap talaga,
... lalo na kung ang mga taong pinamumunuan ng namumuno,
... mga epal rin.
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mahirap pala ang mag dedma... ang manahimik na lang
it's harder to keep quiet than to take the Mayor to account for his poor performance? parang baligtad yata?
... magkasingkahulugan ba ang manahimik at ang hindi paghahanap ng taong masisisi?
... hindi mo alam kung paano gawin ang manahimik habang naghahanap ka ng taong masisisi?
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Anong mahirap gawin?
... ang hindi paghahanap ng taong masisisi.
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Afterlife
Can you have a meaningful life without an afterlife?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeMoOJpvUlU&feature=player_detailpage
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... kasi iyon ang pinakamadaling gawin,
... ang magreklamo't dumakdak
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Yung iba ang sinasamba, di na po yun problema as long as they recognize the presence of the Divine Creator na pinagmulan ng lahat
Ayokong manghusga dun sa iba, bahala na ang Diyos sa kanila.
... so, sinasabi mo bang pwede pa ring makaakyat sa langit ang tao na ibang dios ang pinaniniwalaan, tama ba?
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Of course, yun after-life is God's greatest gift that equalizes all humans both rich and poor. One thing good about it is that the standards ng judgment ay yung pagiging believer ng isang tao at kung paano nya minamahal ang kanyang kapwa.
... at paano naman ang tao na ibang dios ang sinasamba pero minamahal pa rin niya ang kanyang kapwa,
... saan ang tungo niya, ayon sa iyong paniniwala, langit o impiyerno ba?
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Pasensya po sir VeRR. Tao lang po, nagkakamali din po minsan.
... so, ayaw mo nang pag-usapan ang tungkol sa sinabi mong ito na una ko nang pinuna,
"Vherr Bherr Vehrr, medyo mag pagka blasphemous ka rin hehehe. Patay na ba yun parents mo? Did you dream about them saying things about God and the after-life? Yung parents mong patay na, I'm sure meron silang messages para sayo."
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... or,
... hulaan ko,
... may iba na namang account ang gagamitin sa pagsagot para sa iyo?
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Bakit naman ako nasama sa usapan dito? Mahigit 1 taon na ko member dito, at iilan lang friends ko. Bakit ako dinamay mo Sir verrr? Hindi naman elitista katulad ninyo. Halos pareho pa nga tayo ng paniniwala eh.
... ano ang basehan mo sa pagsasabing elitista ako?
... at patunayan mo ngang halos pareho tayo ng paniniwala gayung ito ang sinabi mo,
"Vherr Bherr Vehrr, medyo mag pagka blasphemous ka rin hehehe. Patay na ba yun parents mo? Did you dream about them saying things about God and the after-life? Yung parents mong patay na, I'm sure meron silang messages para sayo"
... (at correction, kawalan-ng-paniniwala ang akin)
Sir Verrrh, pareho lang kayo ni Sir Saintpetr, gusto nyo solohin yung God's moral code thread. Kayo lang dalwa halos nag-uusap dito. Di po ba public thread to? Dapat marunong kayong rumispeto sa taong tulad ko na di naman gaanong nagpo-post dito. Dapt pa nga tulungan nyo ko eh.
Mainitin na lang lagi kasi yun ulo nyo eh. Laht na lang dito inaaway nyo! Pati ako na bihira lang nagpo-post dinadamay nyo pa!
... may nagbabawal ba sa iyo na mag-post?
... at uy, binanggit mo ang salitang "respeto",
... kanino ko ba narinig yan? hmmm,
... sino-sinu nga ba ang mahilig mag-post na kapag kinontra ko na ang kanyang post ay 2 lang ang malamang na isasagot sa akin, either:
1) nakabibinging katahimikan or,
2) paghingi ng respeto
... at tama ka, bihira ka ngang mag-post, in fact, hindi nga ba't ito ang una mong post sa thread na ito,
Just let Ma'am Vherr be. She doesn't know anything about proper timing.
... and yet heto ka, humihingi ng respeto
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OK lang yun Mr Atheist VheRR, paniwalaan mo na lang sarili mong kabalintunaan at kasakiman.
... at ano ang kinalaman ng kasakiman sa usapan SaintPeter5858, este, iRapedSatan, este, BrightestStar, este, CitibankBP, este, U.P.AdMU2008, este, MTC666TheDevil, este, MTCAdministratorRapist, este, SUICIDAL333?
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Sir Vherr, sa tingin mo anu kaya ang sinabi ng Diyos? May narinig ka kaya lang kinalimutan mo eh.
... at paano naman kaya makapagsasalita ang hindi totoo?
... sa pamamagitan kaya ng guni-guni?
... ng malikot na imahinasyon?
Vherr Bherr Vehrr, medyo mag pagka blasphemous ka rin hehehe. Patay na ba yun parents mo? Did you dream about them saying things about God and the after-life? Yung parents mong patay na, I'm sure meron silang messages para sayo.
... ahhhhh, ganun ba un, SaintPeter5858, este, Suicidal333, este, iRapedSatan?
... sa panaginip sila magsasalita?
... so, sa malikot na imahinasyon nakikipag-usap ang dios mo?
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God speaks and I listen
... ano daw ang sabi niya?
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It is born out of God's utmost love for humanity.
... at paano mo natiyak na mahal nga ng dios mo ang tao?
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http://www.jesusandmo.net/strips/2006-01-16.jpg
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The Codes like loving one's neighbor are very useful even for the Agnostics and unbelievers.
Without it we'd be so unruly and immoral!
... Ang Pagmamahal sa Kapitbahay,
Now therefore k*ll every male among the little ones, and k*ll every woman that hath known man by lying with him. (Num31:17 KJV)
But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. (Num31:18 KJV)
And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city. (Deu 3:6 KJV)
... bow!
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Why We Lie
We like to believe that a few bad apples spoil the virtuous bunch. But research shows that everyone cheats a little—right up to the point where they lose their sense of integrity.
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........................You have brought up Einstein in your various posts, my friend, have you not? And I posted quotes about Einstein and the origins of the universe. Therefore we are necessarily talking about Einstein as part of this exchange, specifically his thinking that the universe had beginnings, and ergo a creator. Context, my friend, context............... I know you hate context because it nullifies your tactic of lose-them-in-the thickets-of-detail-nitpicking........................
... una, hindi porke't kinakausap mo ako ay nangangahulugan nang nag-uusap tayo,
... magkaiba ang kinakausap mo ako sa nag-uusap tayo,
... pangalawa, at inuulit ko, sinabi ko na kung aling bahali ng post mo ang pinupuna ko.
........................My friend, ikaw ang di nakaka-gets. We know what causes thunder and lightning. That's far, far removed from the topic of Einstein's thinking that if the universe had a beginning, then logically it must have had a creator. And that is what you are not able to address, unless you fall back on your god-of-the-gaps argument. Which does not apply because it cannot account for first cause. Remember, we are talking here about the beginnings of the universe. Cosmological argument ang tawag dun........................
... at paano mo nalaman ang dahilan ng pagkulog at pagkidlat?
... hindi nga ba't Siyensya ang nagbigay ng sagot at hindi ang dios mo,
... kapag hindi alam ang sagot, dios ang sasabihing sagot,
... kapag may sagot na ang Siyensya, exit na ang dios, lipat naman sa ibang tanong na wala pang sagot ang Siyensya,
... god of the gaps,
... ipagpalagay na nating may first cause,
... ano ang ang nagbigay sa yo ng katiyakan na dios nga ang first cause?
... ano ang ang nagbigay sa yo ng katiyakan na wala nang iba pang posibleng maging first cause kundi dios lang?
... wala na bang mas nauna pa sa dios mo, baka may ama pa yan? o kaya naman ay lolo?
... ilan ba ang dios?
... bakit niya/nila nilikha ang Universe?
... ano ang pinagkakaabalahan niya/nila bago nilikha ang Universe?
... ang sagot sa kung bakit kumukulog at kumikidlat ay natural, hindi supernatural,
... kaya ang sagot ukol sa simula ng Universe, natural din, at hindi supernatural.
........................Again, context, my friend. You miss the point. Einstein did not believe in a personal God. In that sense he was an agnostic. But he believed in an impersonal creator God. Yet many atheists (baka exempted ka nga naman, ewan ko) say Einstein was one of them........................
To quote Einstein: "I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with fates and actions of human beings." (Cable reply to Rabbi Herbert S. Goldstein's (Institutional Synagogue in New York) question to Einstein, "Do you believe in God?")........................
"... he believed in an impersonal creator God..."
... makailang ulit mong binanggit ang salitang creator, kaya linawin natin,
... ano ang ibig mong sabihin sa salitang Creator?
... dahil ayon kay Albert Einstein,
Einstein had previously explored the belief that man could not understand the nature of God. In an interview published in 1930 in G. S. Viereck's book Glimpses of the Great, Einstein explained:
I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws. Our limited minds grasp the mysterious force that moves the constellations.I am fascinated by Spinoza'spantheism, but admire even more his contribution to modern thought because he is the first philosopher to deal with the soul and body as one, and not two separate things.[6]<http://en.wikipedia....d_the_afterlife >
... at sa Pantheism,
Pantheism is the view that the Universe (or Nature) and God (ordivinity) are identical.[1] Pantheists thus do not believe in a personal, anthropomorphic or creator god. The word derives from the Greek (pan)meaning "all" and the Greek (theos) meaning "God". As such, pantheism denotes the idea that "God" is best seen as a process of relating to the Universe.[2] The central ideas found in almost all pantheistic beliefs are the view of the Cosmos as an all-encompassing unity and the sacredness of Nature.
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism >
........................Pssssst,may picture ako ni God, signed autograph pa, may dedication para sa iyo,authenticated ni San Pedro. Papadala ko mamaya........................
... how sweet,
... ang kaso,
... saan mo papadala?
... alam mo ba ang address ko?
... ahh,
... itatanong mo na lang sa dios mo?
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Again, non sequitur.
We are taking about Einstein's logic about the origin and the design of the universe pointing to the existence of a creator; maybe it could be a syllogism (roughly) like this -- 1. The universe, which is of such amazing design, is expanding; 2. So it had to have a beginning; 3. Therefore, logically, it had to have a creator.
... "we"?
... at paano mo nasabi na "we are ta(l)king about Einstein's logic about..."?
... may pinag-usapan ba tayo tungkol kay Einstein?
... hindi ba't sinabi ko na kung aling bahagi ng post mo ang pinuna ko?
But you are talking about kumulog and kumidlat which have been established to be natural phenomena.
Faulty equating, to say the least.
... di mo na-gets?
... narinig mo na ba ung saitang "god-of-the-gaps"?
... kung nuon ay "kumulog-kumidlat",
... ngayon naman ay "beginning-of-the-Universe".
... gets?
Your task now is to dispute Einstein's logic.
By the way, the allegations here that Eistein was an atheist have been refuted. He may not have believed in a personal God. But he could not discard the beginnings of the universe which would necessitate a creator.
... sino ba ang nagsabi na "atheist" si Einstein, ako ba?
... may nag-post ba rito na nagsasabing atheist si Einstein?
... at kung babasahin nating muli ang mga ito,
On 22 March 1954 Einstein received a letter from J. Dispentiere, an Italian immigrant who had worked as anexperimental machinist in New Jersey. Dispentiere had declared himself an atheist and was despaired by a news report which had cast Einstein as conventionally religious. Einstein replied on 24 March 1954:
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.[8
... at heto pa,
In a 1950 letter to M. Berkowitz, Einstein stated that "My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."
<http://en.wikipedia....religious_views>
.... ay makikitang wala namang nabanggit si Einstein na naniniwala siya sa isang Creator,
... o ayan, ngayon pa lamang natin pinag-uusapan si Einstein.
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Mayors? Negative Or Positive
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... sinagot ko naman,
... nasa sa iyo na lang kung paano mo uunawain.