spitzky

oh well, its a supp thread after all.....

spitsky, i was thinking about stacking up on roids as well... but I saw some people with certain side effects... one of'em had severe acne... thing is though, if yer really serious about taking the stuff, I can try to hook you up.  As far as i know, the secret in taking the roids is in knowing how to cycle it.

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wat roids dyo hav? hell, acne? last time i checked, a big tube of panoxyl costs wat, 300 pesos? and thats enuf ance-busting power for 2 months or more, even if u use it on ur face, back, chest, etc....

gud pm felow body buffs...is xenadrine efx safe to consume? tnx

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spend ur dough on oatmeal instead

"ny conclusions? Long-term and short-term ABUSE of steroids can lead to life threatening complications and possibly death. Short-term cycling of steroids in adult males leads to no lasting adverse effects. With the absence of a long term study one cannot say the possibility or probability of complications though. Antidotal evidence shows they are safe. Professional and amateur sports players have been using steroids for years without the mounting death toll predictions set by the government.

Abuse of drugs or I should say abuse of any substance (tobacco, alcohol and/or food) can lead to unwanted effects. The prevalent mentality that steroids are bad and should be banned, I have to disagree with. More people die due to smoking, drinking and complications of obesity. But the banning of those behaviors are not warranted by government. Despite a true connection between smoking, drinking, obesity which can lead to death. One has to question why.

Others may point to individuals who had a negative experience. But you have to look at the circumstances that caused those effects. We live in a world full of choices and every choice has a trade-off. The use of steroids to enhance ones self is no different than a person getting plastic surgery. Neither one is 100% safe, but then again what is? If you were to factor in everything that can go wrong in your day you would never get out of bed, walk on the street, drive a car or eat food. "

i wonder, are steroids actually banned in this country? i wonder what the penalties are....

if only i could get my hands on a decent stack, id be juicing ryt now, even if it took 20 years off my life expectancy...

Hydroxycut owes their fame to ephedra and without it I feel the product was almost worthless.  The US lifted the ban in April 05 and some manufacturers are putting it back into their product.  This is one of the best known ingredient used to reduce your appetite and give you energy during the day.  Find a product that contains ephedra and you’ll see better results then just caffeine alone.

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the ban was lifted? hurray!

Guys....let's face it....some people are out there about to take or may have already taken another dose of steroids and there is nothing we can do to make them change their minds.  My question is, what are the supplements needed to complement with the steroid use so as to compensate/protect (I just don't have a word for it)  for any damage the body may have to endure?

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clomid, etc... anti-estrogen pills

Hi, Im new here. Been working out for more than 4 years. Ive never been serious with supplementation although I have seen my body develop, especially my pecs and my back. my friend is advising me to use what he uses: anabolic and growth hormone releasers. Im not sure if it works though... anyone heard of such things?

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hmmm... are we talking tribulus terrestris (good) or some other fancypants supp (bad)?

san ba may sale ngayon?

i agree with you too.. naturall protein eater din ako.. more on eggwhites and tuna and oatmeal..

 

so kung mag natural protein tayo, could you suggest a good protein diet?

 

ako kasi 4 egg whites a day..

 

ung tuna naman, mga 1 tuna lang a day..

 

oatmeal ko is every evening..

 

mali ba diet ko?

 

ano ba dapat? thanks...

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oatmeal at nyt??? graveyard shift?? u hav to take ur carbs ryt after u wake up..... typically, in the morning

as for the details... backread

if i had a penny for everytime a newbie asks me what supplements to take to get him/her looking good nekkid, id be driving a lambo by now... <_

I know you're not a big fan of supplements but could you kindly expound.

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im actually a big fan of creatine but it is a bulking product... for it to giv ya big guns, it has to get lotsa water (increased water retention) and will get u a little fat (no point in eating light if u wanna get big)...

now hydroxycut... im not a big fan of it... most of the weight ull lose from this thing is water: water thats needed by creatine... hell ur not even supposed to take caffeine with creatine (and hydroxycut is loaded with caffeine)

point is, if u wanna get big, u must be prepared to put on a lil fat along with muscle...

dont expect to get big AND ripped all at the same time... there should be a bulking phase and a cutting phase... that is, if ur not on roids

mga pre, san ba ako makabili ng amino acid na effective? and what kind?

 

anong store ba? bka may alam kayo..

 

TNX...

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amino tabs are CRAP... spend ur money on tuna and oatmeal instead

anu po ba kailngan whey protein or mass drinks? nalilito po kasi ako e

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try skim milk, egg whites and tuna... forget the fancy drinks

question lang...

 

may epekto ba if i take creatine and hydroxycut at the same time? medyo may konting fat gain eh.  i just want to lose fat without losing muscle mass and strength.

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taking a bulking product with a fat burner would give u some of the most expensive urine this side of wasteville...

mine is longer than yours!

ngerkz should i guillotine my trainer now/  :cry:  like i said the last time ive been a tad iffy about cycling creatine. mahina liver ko eh, it runs in the family

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if ur concerned about cycling creatine but ok ka lang sa "1.5-2 g of creatine per lb of body weight"... hhhmmmm.... if ur trainer told u to do that, SUE HIM!

what most people do is 1.5-2 g of creatine per lb of body weight, depending on you tolerance, etc., and cycling it on/off for 1-2 week periods

 

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if i were u, i wudnt do that

ako i just take whey protein before workout, and around 5 mgs of creatine/day. works for me.

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5 grams cguro.. di milligrams

Honestly I, err, havent seen/noticed those..bawal ba mag-mention ng brand names dito sa forum/ what does the bottle look like

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the brand is SPORTS NUTRITION INTERNATIONAL... u can google it, comes in 100-g white bottles

as for roids, dont believe all the crap on it... used wisely, steroids have lots of health benefits... in fact, roids are often used for therapy (hypogonadotropism, spina bifina, asthma, other congenital defects)

wowow *giddy mode* where do you get your (plain/vanilla/unadulterated) creatine pare? that does sound a lot better than the fancy ones sold in GNC (and cheaper, I figure..)

I've tried crea10tech, wildberry, and it tasted better than anything i tried before (though spitz here doesnt seem too fond of non-plain creatine.) I am no med guy to accurately say it's no good though, but when i say it tastes nice, it really DOES taste nice  :thumbsupsmiley:

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plain means unflavored... i get mine either sa GNC or yung sports nutrition international na 100-gram bottles (common yan)... be sure to check the ingredients list... it must contain nothing else, dapat creatine monohydrate lang

ok, so di ka talaga naniniwala sa NO2 pareng spitzky

 

u may be right...

 

mahal pa naman tong NO2 na to

 

tnx!

 

but i suppose u do take other supplements?

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creatine... thats about it really, but off cycle ako now, im losing weight

what ae ypu drinking guys during workouts?

 

ok na ba gatorade? ano ba magandang energizer. minsan ang bilis ko mapagod sa gym eh. sayang yung workout

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gatorade is good, and a cup of black coffee an hour before workouts

f**kin water pare. if you easily get tired, a serving of creatine 1 hour before you hit the weights. powdered creatine works better in the long run (recent reading materials say) pero, if your issue really is all psychological and water doesnt cut if for you, try sparkling water, it's 0 calories but you get the same softdrink kick (that's how i find it myself, at least). just remember to NOT take it WITH creatine; citric acid kills creatine right off the bat

 

lastly, dont even think about C2, please

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try not to take creatine before workouts, coz it'll just go straight to ur pee (ive posted articles on creatine in here somewhere... backread)

take creatine AFTER training

By the way, anyone here tried Crea10 Tech? I like the taste, though it's a bit pricey (~P65/serving) in retail, the fact that it's a local company who makes it.. or anyone else tried it/knows where you can buy it in bulk?

 

Check it here

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from the site:

Using optimal levels of a high glycemic carbohydrate, 30g Dextrose, Crea10TECH stimulates insulin production which aids in uptake of creatine in to muscle cells. To further enhance this transport action, an insulin-mimicking vitamin, Alpha Lipoic Acid, is added. ALA may also help temper blood sugar levels to prevent the hyperglycemia experienced with other creatine-dextrose formulas. ALA is also a potent antioxidant which may reduce the oxidative damage caused by exercise.

im not a big fan of fancy creatine products... take good old creatine monohydrate powder instead...

why? coz the dextrose they added to "stimulate insulin production which aids in uptake of creatine in to muscle cells"??? well id say thats just wasting ur money right there... THE SAME EFFECT CAN BE ACHIEVED BY EATING WHITE BREAD OR JUST SUGAR WITH REGULAR CREATINE.. amen :goatee:

as much as it pains me to do so...................

*sniff*

im gonna have to give up my slot for tomorrow's game... my wisdom tooth is on the rampage and right about now im lookin like a chipmunk in autumn... :cry:

galing ng timing ko ano? 10:02 am! hehehe

officially i am moving the start of signing up from 12:01 am to 10am every thu. so that you guys can go straight home from the games and worry about the sign up the next day na.

 

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o ako na mauna....

1. spitzky :mtc:

any further details why its bullcrap?

 

sabi kase ng mga friends ko sikat daw to sa US ngayon

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sikat yes, but THERE ARE NO SCIENTIFIC STUDIES WHATSOEVER PROVING NO2'S BENEFITS... if u can find one, id love to see it..........

any feedback on NO2?

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NO2 is bullcrap

black and white na lang.........

1. swit_lass #9

2. poknat # 7

3. taken # 10

4. Fî$hK?? # 17

5. Limpbwisit #3

6 jaime (non mtc)

7. wanna_bet #14

8. onslaugt #8

9. sikosci #33

10. kulit_liit #22

11. tim #21

12. animo_lasalle #11

13. spitzky #0

mod note - seloso ako eh. gusto ko ako lang ang katabi ni swit

i have a suggestion, y dont we start another sign up sheet for the following week right after maubos yung slots for next week? like, if puno na yung slots for week 1, we cud start another list for week 2, and kung hindi mapuno yung list for week 2 the ppl who signed up for week 1 cud sign up at 12:01, thu of week 1 diba?

this way, we will have new guests every week, para maiba naman diba? lugi kasi kaming wlang net connection sa bahay/unit/apartment, 10am pa nagbubukas yung net cafes e...

now kung mapuno na rin agad yung slots for week 2, yung signup for week 3 will start at thu 12:01 a.m. of week 2, para until 2 weeks in advance lang yung list diba?

watcha think guys?