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#21 haroots2

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Posted 10 September 2018 - 01:24 PM

Nabebenta kasi Pardon dito.  Politika ang dahilan kaya napapardon mga yan. Dahil sa pardon na yan naging attack dog ng LP yang si Trillanes, ayun nadale si Binay.  Nung humina sa survey si Du30 naman yung tinira. Pero tama si Camiar, hintayin na lang matapos termino ni Trillanes next year. 

Kagaya ni Erap dapat nasa kulungan na yan. 



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 11:34 PM

is it really "revoked"? sa pagkakaintindi ko his amnesty is invalid to begin with xD ginamit nlng ung butas na yon laban sa kanya..

guys wag papauto sa media, news hit lang habol ng mga yan,

And to trillanes, gawin mong bodyguard si matobato, bigyan mo ng itak na baliktad ang talim

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 12:13 PM

Whether you are pro or anti Trillanes, this amnesty revocation is not good for the country.  It will reflect on the credibility of the Philippine government. Imagine this - If in the future, the Philippines wants to promote peace by encouraging rebels to surrender by offering them amnesties, sinong gago ang maniniwala na ngayon?  

 

thus, amnesty shall be processed with due diligence otherwise such would be void.

 

past gov't gave politically motivated amnesty and was then used purposely on such beneficial to them.



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Posted 11 September 2018 - 01:43 PM

 

thus, amnesty shall be processed with due diligence otherwise such would be void.

 

 

That's exactly my point about credibility.  Due diligence is done and is typically more importantly when you do not trust the person or entity you are dealing with.  Now that we know that our own government can renege on a previous agreement, we know that we can't trust them and must do this so called due diligence before accepting an amnesty. Pano na ngayon itong mga rebelde na most likely konti lang ang pinagaralan.  How do you expect them to do due diligence with no formal education? Duterte just destroyed one of the governments tools for promoting peace. He is destroying the governments credibility.

 

 

 

past gov't gave politically motivated amnesty and was then used purposely on such beneficial to them.

 

Really?  When Aquino gave the amnesty to the Magdalos back in 2010, he was already thinking about using Trillanes to attack Binay and Duterte in 2016?  Advanced mag-isip?  Hindi ba niya naisip na yung mga ibang binigyan niya ng amnesty eh kakampi kay Duterte?

 

How about this idea:  Ang mga Dutertes ay inis na inis na kay Trillanes dahil sa mga pasabog niya.  Kaya nila itong pahiyain by just signing the waiver or showing the tatoo pero hindi nila magawa (I wonder why).   Wala silang makuhang dumi kay Trillanes, kaya nagiimbento nalang sila ng kaso.  No doubt this is personal for Duterte.  With more important issues concerning the country, he chooses to go after Trillanes for such a trivial issue - an application. 

 


Edited by juan t, 11 September 2018 - 01:46 PM.

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 04:24 PM

Agree ako kay JuanT,sa style ng gobyerno ngayon pag kalaban ka e hindi ka man lang tatagal ng isang buwan sa pwesto kung may mga kalokohan kang itinatago. Bulatlat lahat mahanapan ka lang ng butas. Sa sobrang taba ng utak nila naisip pa nila itong amnesty chuchu na ito. Hindi ko idol c trilanes, pero malinaw naman kung sino ang mali dito.

Edited by notsky, 11 September 2018 - 04:27 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2018 - 08:51 PM

Dapat makulong Yan si trillanes,, nanggulo Yan at gumawa ng gulo sa Manila pen dati.. kung Hindi makukulong Yan, pamamarisan Yan ng ibang tao!!

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 09:40 PM

This is the news thats being show while back in the congress they are silently discussing passing TRAIN 2..,Basic concept of misdirection

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 09:49 PM

On Trillanes' accusations against Duterte and family: madalas below the belt na. If he has the goods, he should go to court. Otherwise, pamumulitika lang niya yan.

On Proclamation 572: blatantly illegal. Nagkamali si Duterte this time around. Sa factual basis pa mali na agad, sabay may illegal arrest orders pa. The SC can bend over backwards for him only so much. Milagro na yan kung i-uphold pa ng SC yung Proc 572.

 

SC denied Trillanes' petition for TRO.



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Posted 11 September 2018 - 10:08 PM

Agree ako kay JuanT,sa style ng gobyerno ngayon pag kalaban ka e hindi ka man lang tatagal ng isang buwan sa pwesto kung may mga kalokohan kang itinatago. Bulatlat lahat mahanapan ka lang ng butas. Sa sobrang taba ng utak nila naisip pa nila itong amnesty chuchu na ito. Hindi ko idol c trilanes, pero malinaw naman kung sino ang mali dito.


O really? Paki share naman sino sino mga sinasabi mong na tanggal.

At malinaw ba talaga sino may mali? Sige nga paki sabi nalang kung sino.

#30 combatjames

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 12:49 AM

Isang more balls than brains tapos isang more brains than balls. Kayo na lang pumili sino ang alin.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 02:17 AM

Amnesty was granted and sign only by DND secretary. Yan yung butas na pinanghahawakan nd admin ngayon.

It should be the president at siya lang ang may power mag grant. Ang kaso walang ganun document. Kahit sa kampo ni Trillanes wala silang copy na si Pnoy ang nag grant.

In short di naayos to ng past admin nabutasan tuloy ngayon.

At si Noynoy tahimik lang ngayon. Baka nagulat din haha. O kamot ulo kasi bakit nga naman hindi aiya ang nakapirma.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 08:33 AM

Amnesty was granted and sign only by DND secretary. Yan yung butas na pinanghahawakan nd admin ngayon.

It should be the president at siya lang ang may power mag grant. Ang kaso walang ganun document. Kahit sa kampo ni Trillanes wala silang copy na si Pnoy ang nag grant.

In short di naayos to ng past admin nabutasan tuloy ngayon.

At si Noynoy tahimik lang ngayon. Baka nagulat din haha. O kamot ulo kasi bakit nga naman hindi aiya ang nakapirma.

 

You hit the bullseye on that.  Dinaan man sa technicalities, its still legal, di nila pwede sabihing si Du30 pa yung lumabag sa contitution.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 12:57 PM

 

You hit the bullseye on that.  Dinaan man sa technicalities, its still legal, di nila pwede sabihing si Du30 pa yung lumabag sa contitution.

Di na dapat pinapatulan si Trillanes. 

 

Bistado na sya sa pagbubugaw ng sarili nya bilang tagapanira ng reputasyon ng mga kalaban sa pulitika ng amo nya.

 

Di na sya mananalo sa next elections.

 

Pero ngayon nasa limelight na naman sya. Nagkaroon na naman sya ng pag-asa na makapanloko ng botante.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 01:29 PM

O really? Paki share naman sino sino mga sinasabi mong na tanggal. -
may sinabi ba kong "natanggal"?! Wow, really nga😂😂.

At malinaw ba talaga sino may mali? Sige nga paki sabi nalang kung sino. -
it should be the court to decide sa matter na ito, but the president itself already judge na tama sila at mali ang kabila. I will invoke my right to freedom of expression dito😅😅😅


Edited by notsky, 12 September 2018 - 01:34 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 01:58 PM

O really? Paki share naman sino sino mga sinasabi mong na tanggal. -
may sinabi ba kong "natanggal"?! Wow, really nga.
At malinaw ba talaga sino may mali? Sige nga paki sabi nalang kung sino. -
it should be the court to decide sa matter na ito, but the president itself already judge na tama sila at mali ang kabila. I will invoke my right to freedom of expression dito


O sabi mo malinaw kuNg sino mali. Bat nag 180 ka ata, buti naman pala alam mong korte mag decide nyan tapos mag post ka dyan na sure na sure ka.

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Posted 12 September 2018 - 02:12 PM

Di na dapat pinapatulan si Trillanes. 

 

Bistado na sya sa pagbubugaw ng sarili nya bilang tagapanira ng reputasyon ng mga kalaban sa pulitika ng amo nya.

 

Di na sya mananalo sa next elections.

 

Pero ngayon nasa limelight na naman sya. Nagkaroon na naman sya ng pag-asa na makapanloko ng botante.

 

True. Graduate na siya sa senado.  I doubt lalaban siya sa kongreso (1st district ng Caloocan) unless partylist (Magdalo) siya.  After next election makakalimutan na sana siya ng mga tao.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 03:32 PM

 

SC denied Trillanes' petition for TRO.

 

SC also took judicial notice of statements from both Duterte and the AFP that they will respect the court processes pending before the RTCs where SoJ Guevarra has filed motions for the issuance of warrants of arrests.

Slightly hugas-kamay, but the bottom line is: no warrantless arrest of Trillanes. Which was one of the orders contained in Proc 572. So on that score, kahit walang TRO, panalo si Trillanes.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 03:50 PM

SC also took judicial notice of statements from both Duterte and the AFP that they will respect the court processes pending before the RTCs where SoJ Guevarra has filed motions for the issuance of warrants of arrests.
Slightly hugas-kamay, but the bottom line is: no warrantless arrest of Trillanes. Which was one of the orders contained in Proc 572. So on that score, kahit walang TRO, panalo si Trillanes.

Baka kasi jab lang tong pagtanggal sa kanya ng amnesty, tas yung totoong suntok ay parating pa lang.

Buburahin talaga nila itong si Trillanes sa politics. Pag tapos na term nyan mag la lielow yan.

Masyadong kasi syang maingay, label as attack dog nga siya. Kaya pinapatahimik, medyo aamo to pag tapos na term nya. Lalo na pagna dominate ng PDP ang next midterm election.

Edited by DarkPill, 12 September 2018 - 03:52 PM.


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Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:01 PM

Beyond personality politics, huwag talaga dapat mag-astang diktador si Duterte na pipikon-pikon sa mga kritiko niya.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 10:49 PM

Not a fan of Trillanes, pero maling mali si Duterte dito. Napaka-pangit din na dahilan na hindi nila mahanap  yung mga documents na submitted ni Trililing dahil ibig sabihin lang nun nasa kanila ang pagkukulang. Ang masama pa dito, magiging precedent siya sa mga susunod na presidente pag may kaaway sa pulitica. Hypothetically, yung susunod na presidente pwede bawiin din yung mga pardon kina GMA at Erap tapos sasabihin "hindi namin mahanap ang mga required documents nila eh." Talaga nga naman only in the Philippines kung saan incompetence and stupidity are a valid excuse. 







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