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Poll: Bongbong Marcos vs Leni Robredo

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#1 FleurDeLune

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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:09 PM

What do you think about the real score between the two vice presidential candidates? Do you believe that there's a deliberate attempt to cheat Marcos to favor Robredo?

 

Read first before you post.

 

Evidence shows breach in transparency server to 'rig' results

 

AN IT expert, who is an accredited observer of the poll watchdog Parish Pastoral Council for Responsible Voting, has in his possession evidence that shows the hash code of the transparency server had been breached by Smartmatic officials to introduce a new script that may have “rigged” the results and compromised the entire system in partial and unofficial counting in favor of administration candidates. Read here.

 

Miriam: PNoy admin ‘manufacturing numbers’ for Leni Robredo 

 

Santiago specifically cited the sudden surge of Robredo in the poll surveys a few days before the May 9 elections.

“I find it astounding that Marcos should have led in the vice-presidential surveys for many months, until the penultimate month, when suddenly the administration could jump up survey results to finally overtake him,” Santiago said. 

“This is an eventuality that will cause the peoples of the democratic world to shake their heads and question the values of the society it produced,” Santiago added.  Read here.

 



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Posted 13 May 2016 - 05:45 PM

I do believe meron ginagawang milagro ang LP but not Leni.  Putting back Marcos in power ay sampal para sa mga Aquino. Ang mga Comelec Comm. naman nabibili mga yan maski noon pa.  Diyan nga yumaman si Brillantes as a lawyer for candidates  and as a commissioner.  Its very easy to access a server if you have I.T.  people within to do the job. A script can be done in seconds.  Ang mahalaga ay dapat may 3rd party I.T company that will audit all the logs in the server.



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Posted 13 May 2016 - 06:23 PM

Warning: 

 

Having fun is good. We like fun. Please keep it positive and polite. We may take action against posts and/or topics that could cause unrest in the community beyond a civil and polite disagreement.

Please respect members at all times. You may not make personal attacks and there will be no posts meant to offend or hurt any other member, in a manner which is offensive or inflammatory.

 

 

 

Let's be objective here instead of subjective, guys. I hate to see you being suspended every now and then. 



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Posted 13 May 2016 - 07:30 PM

Until proven na nagkaroon I don't think I can believe the idea na may dayaan, kahit sino pa man ang manalo.

 

Besides all votes are counted in three sites: PPCRV, Comelec, and there's another one I forgot the name. Siguro kung hindi tugma ang resulta nung tatlo, then isa lang sa counting servers ang nadaya;

so yeah, due process muna...



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Posted 13 May 2016 - 10:57 PM

May article ang Rappler regarding the clash of the mathematicians last night, yung time na lock ang thread ng VP hehe.  In one corner, David Yap, former Ateneo instructor and Antonio Contreras ng DLSU versus mga tiga-UP haha, one of which is Jan Carlo Punongbayan, summa at valedictorian ng UP 2009 and a slew of others, an MA student of Columbia University and a PhD from University of Zurich.  

 

Ang initial contention ni Contreras, may pattern ang pag-angat ni Robredo sa vote count, in short, dinadaya.  Sinagot naman ng mga tiga-UP na mali ang assumption na ginagamit ni Contreras, particularly, na random ang pasok ng data all throughout.  Basahin niyo na lang, mahina ako sa math haha.

 

 

 

http://www.rappler.c...edium=share_bar

 

 

Mas madaling intindihin ang explanation ni Reina Reyes, the Filipina scientist who proved Einstein right (astig).  May ginawa siyang gif showing the vote tally per hour  alongside the percentage per region where the votes came from.  Nung early evening, makikita na mas malaking porsiyento ng vote count ang galing sa balwarte kung san malakas si Marcos, mostly Luzon, mapapansin din at that time napapagiwanan ang Vis-Min sa bilangan.  On a per hour basis makikitang lumalaki ang boto ni Robredo habang nabibilang ang Vis-Min at siyempre yung Luzon naman e nasagad na yung bilang, kaya nahabol si Marcos.  All her data taken from GMA tally according to her.  Well, ang dali namang iverify o irefute kung may maling data siyang nilagay diba?  Yun ang maganda sa transparency, kahit sinong herodes pwede magmarunong hahaha

 

http://giphy.com/gif...jHTx26SAc2O3E2s



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 12:53 AM

BBM. sawang sawa na ang tao sa DILAW. Si abnoy ang pinaka walang kwentang pangulo.



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 05:36 AM

Madaling magbato ng putik pero mahirap itangging malinis ang iyong kamay pagkatapos....

Comelec have explained what really happened and said that the "tampering" dont have anything to do to alter the count and yet despite walang maipakitang ebidensiya so far the marcos camp continues to insinuate cheating.

Its all about mind conditioning. Even before the election marcos already came out and said the only way he'll lose if he's cheated. Sa kampo rin niya ang nag fabricate at nagkalat ng "plan B" issue. They even tried to discredit the survey results showing leni has catch up and even overtook him through paid columnist via the romualdez owned newspaper. Pulse asia daw ang credible hindi yun sws survey and yet the last pulse asia survey that came out before the election showed leni winning by a slim margin.

Even former comelec commissioner sixto brillantes who will represent marcos in the official counting said this should be a non issue at pinatatahimik na nga sila.

http://newsinfo.inqu...-nonsense-issue

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 05:44 AM

ow... i was expecting na mahaba itong topic na ito considering how it would affect us.

i dont believe na may dayaan pero nakakabwisit lang talaga ung ginawa ng smartmatic at nakakabwisit din ang sistema nila.

medyo nakakalungkot lang na nagagamit ito ng mga taong gusto manggulo at pinaniniwalaan ng mga tao

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 08:25 AM

Dapat agahan na lang ng Comelec ang pag canvass ng boto for Pres. and VP para matapos na ang issue.



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 08:29 AM

I don't think so. Not with what I have seen so far.

Even though Bongbong would be a good match, Leni has a clean and repected record, diligent and a lot of significant bills passed and supported.

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Posted 14 May 2016 - 08:43 AM

Smartmatic liable for breaking protocol with script change, says Guanzon

http://www.philstar....ge-says-guanzon

 

I say that its all PPCRVs or even Comelecs fault.  After the turnover of Smartmatic of the source code they should not have any access to the server (any main server) unless given authority by PPCRV or Comelec.  Authority means approved by the OIC and given actual rights to their username to access the server.  This is an I.T. S.O.P.. after they turnover a project.  Smartmatic username should have been deleted all the rights to the server to prevent them on accessing it without them knowing it.  I'm sure they can access the server remotely without them knowing it. 



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 08:45 AM

may hocus pocus na nangyayari hindi na malaman kung tama na ang bilang



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 08:49 AM

I would really love if the country gets their acts straight with the Marcoses. They should be put in the history books and remain their forever. They had their plunderous and murderous regime. Tama na. Im hoping there will be an effort to cement to everyone the evils of the Marcos family. Kaya lang with Du30 being soft on the Marcoses, I dont know.

This election showed that Pinoys can easily be marketed to. A well-placed meme here, an authentic looking story there, and you've hooked them. That doesnt say much about the thinking prowess of the voters, sorry to say.

Let us move forward. Please.

Edited by punkee, 14 May 2016 - 08:49 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2016 - 09:09 AM

Yung huling survey ng SWS at Pulse Asia, lamang na si Leni over Marcos pero considered a statistical tie kung tama ang pagkakatanda ko.  Yung TV5-SWS Exit Poll which the SWS Mahar Mangahas considers most telling or reflective of the actual vote e lamang si Marcos 34.6% to Leni's 32.8% pero ayon kay Mangahas, considered statistical tie din ito with a 1.8% difference. Ito yung pinupunto ni BBM na ebidensya na panalo siya sa boto pero given na statistical tie ito, mas magandang pagtuunan yung actual vote count.

 

Nasa GMA website yung talaan ng mga natitirang presinto at kung saang probinsya pa yung hindi nabibilang.  Mula doon pwede na tayo gumawa ng sarili nating projection kung kaya pa nga ba habulin ni Marcos ang boto ni Leni.  Wala pa akong nakitang analytical projection na mananalo si Marcos based on the remaining uncounted precincts.

 

Ganunpaman, mas maganda matapos na agad ang bilangan at iupload na sa transparency server para magkaalaman na.



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 05:48 PM

its simple as this.. if duterte gets a big lead on pres. votes it means sawa na ang tao sa yellow administration at dun papasok ang tanong na bakit mo iboboto si robredo na VP ng LP/yellow administration? take note DU30's VP is cayetano kahit naman siguro papano didikit sya total votes ng top 2 VPs na kalaban nya.. pero magtitinda na lang ako ng lugaw at ice cream para maging milyonaryo ako.. :D



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 05:57 PM

BBM.

 

You can practically smell the desperation of the Yellow Army to get their bets as Prez and VP in the home stretch of the elections. It may be Leni directly doing it, but its definitely the Yellow Army doing some Hocus PCOS. They have the means, the motive, and opportunity.



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 10:40 PM

Nde matanggap ni bongbong na matatalo sya sa dayaan o lets say irregularity....nde dahil matatalo sya sa political neophyte....mas ok pa siguro na sabihin na nde matanggap na matalo sa yellow army...

About the marcoses.....yup...i agree sa pinagsasabi ng lahat....na dapat basahin yun history books....but sino ba nagsulat o naglagay ng history after na madeposed si marcos? From term ni cory nagstart....and syempre puro mga negatives ng mga marcoses nilagay....at alam yan ng mga so called millenials....matatalino na mga bata ngayon...maybe alam nila na nde totoo ang lahat na nakalagay sa history books....

Besides...kay ninoy palang....na pinapalabas na hero and martyr....sabi nga ng mga posters dito...dalang aquino na ang naging presidente...yun isa asawa yun isa anak...bakit nde nila pinaimbestiga ulit kung sinong pumatay kay ninoy...baka magulat ang taumbayan sa resulta at mailagay na naman sa history books?

Lets wait na matapos nalang ang bilangan...tutal unang sinabi ni marcos na may nagbago ng script..and yun camp ni leni nagsabing ala and comelec lang makakasagot dun...then inamin ng comelec na may nagiba din ng script....so medyo fishy nga yun...

And yes i voted for marcos...pero as much as i abhor calling someone a troll....pero i think a troll lang ang magsasabing alang pakialam sa bansa ang bumoto sa marcos eh....and i wouldnt consider myself millenials...id rather say/ or call us the voltes five babies....

Edited by azraelmd, 14 May 2016 - 10:42 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2016 - 12:51 AM

Final na ba result?

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 03:23 AM

My senses says none.

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Posted 15 May 2016 - 08:43 AM

About the marcoses.....yup...i agree sa pinagsasabi ng lahat....na dapat basahin yun history books....but sino ba nagsulat o naglagay ng history after na madeposed si marcos? From term ni cory nagstart....and syempre puro mga negatives ng mga marcoses nilagay....at alam yan ng mga so called millenials....matatalino na mga bata ngayon...maybe alam nila na nde totoo ang lahat na nakalagay sa history books....

Besides...kay ninoy palang....na pinapalabas na hero and martyr....sabi nga ng mga posters dito...dalang aquino na ang naging presidente...yun isa asawa yun isa anak...bakit nde nila pinaimbestiga ulit kung sinong pumatay kay ninoy...baka magulat ang taumbayan sa resulta at mailagay na naman sa history books?

I dont remember if I posted it, but in one conversation with a chairman of a publishing group, he shared to me that for quite a while now, there is a very wealthy group who funds many publishing houses and in exchange, the publishers should use their writers. The group not only gives money but travel junkets to europe, etc. It is in this context that one of the books written by one of the group's writers mentions that Martial Law was the golden age of Philippine History.

Well, that is one rich group. And that is one way to literally re-write history. My friend never mentioned who is this wealthy group. All I can say is, your guess is as good as correct. :-)





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