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please state your argument in your 1st sentence.

follow it with another sentence supporting your first sentence, and so on, this is how we engineers/scientists argue, not throwing a lot of words that has no sense

seems like you are just copying/pasting texts, doesnt make sense at all without any argument

You claim to be an engineer? Now you are displaying you cannot even understand simple and basic concepts? I doubt if you are even hold a college degree.

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You claim to be an engineer? Now you are displaying you cannot even understand simple and basic concepts? I doubt if you are even hold a college degree.

got it, you are stupid, bye! :)

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"I think humanity is a thin layer of bacteria in a ball of mud hurtling through a void. I think, if there is a god, he would have given up on us long ago. He gave us a paradise and we used everything up. We dug up every once of energy we can and burn it up. We consume and excrete; we use and destroy. You and I are here to speed up the entropic death of this planet; to service the chaos; we're maggots eating a corpse." -- Westworld

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I refuse to believe in myths that happened more 2000 years ago, and put in written media 1500 years ago, retold and translated less than 1000 years ago. Stories told last week already changed/altered multiple times, what more yung stories 2000 years ago. The beauty of science is, it's constantly rechecked and revised as new discoveries are found. 

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On 10/13/2015 at 8:55 AM, Edmund Dantes said:

 

Metaphor kasi ang language ng bible. Minsan literal masyado interpretation nila nito

The Bible depends in the interpretation of what it says.  And its a never ending debate and no one is wrong while in science fact is fact.  There is only one right and the others are wrong unless scientifically proven right in time and debunked the previously believed is correcct.

 

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Science is PROCEDURE.  Once that procedure is altered by peer pressure or some social and political effort, then it ceases to be the scientific.

 

The Bible is written by men, many of its stories require some stressful reflection because the people who wrote were lost and failed. Yet Science Procedure can be applied to Bible Study. Why not? This is to remove the man made ideas that cloud the Truth. 

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The Catholic Church and Galileo: Truth or Myth? | The Catholic Church and Galileo: Truth or Myth? (patheos.com)

According to popular opinion, the Catholic Church is still mired in the Inquisition and still ignorant of modern science. After all, look what they did to Galileo Galilei.

Every time I hear a critic of Catholicism mention Galileo, I want to say, “Really, you’re going to bring up something that happened 400 years ago? Talk about not moving on!” Harping on Galileo is especially ridiculous since most of what people believe is myth.

Vatican Astronomers

Attempting to dispel this myth is Christopher Graney — astronomer and science historian at the Vatican astronomical observatory and Adjunct Scholar at the Vatican Observatory Foundation in Tucson, Arizona.

Graney’s research on 16th and 17th century astronomy has resulted in two books and, specific to Galileo, two recent articles in Catholic publications about the true story of Galileo and the Church.

One, “The Truth About Galileo,” can be found at The National Catholic Register online:  https://www.ncregister.com/blog/myth-of-galileo

The other article, “What the story of Galileo gets wrong about the church and science,” was written with Brother Guy Consolmagno, S.J., the director of the Vatican Observatory: https://www.americamagazine.org/arts-culture/2020/09/18/what-story-galileo-gets-wrong-about-church-and-science

Considering their credentials, these guys ought to know what they are talking about. It should also be mentioned that the Vatican Department of Astronomy is considered the best department of its kind in the world.

Further, members of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences include the most prominent scientists in the world (think Stephen Hawking and various Nobel Laureates).

What Really Happened

According to legend, Galileo was tried by the Inquisition for the audacity to claim that the earth orbited the sun instead of the other way around. As Graney notes: “In recent variations of this myth, the Catholic Church has been cast in the role of science deniers who used Scripture as a cudgel to deny Galileo’s claims and found him guilty of heresy.”

It is true that Galileo was called before the Inquisition and punished with house arrest for the rest of his life. House arrest was a slap on the wrist, though, compared to the dungeon punishments of the day, and Galileo was able to continue his work.

In relation to the scientific knowledge of his time, Galileo was radical, so the judgment, while incorrect, was a reasonable decision. Of course, politics were involved too.

Despite what the social media snipes say, it is not true that Galileo was tortured. Galileo was not excommunicated, did not invent the telescope, and did not actually prove that the Earth moves.

How Misinformation Gets Spread and Validated

Nonetheless, the observatory gets hate mail accusing the Church of “barbecuing” scientists. What’s even more disturbing is that Graney was able to cite a Harvard astronomer, an Oxford publication and a new Simon & Schuster publication that all propagate misinformation about the Church and Galileo.

How can eminent scholars err so grievously? Because they are looking at 17th century science with the knowledge of the 20th century. They see the events through modern eyes and not through the eyes of the people who were there and had a different world view and a different understanding of astronomy.

Toss into this misinterpretation a modern tendency to believe anything bad about the Church, and you get science fiction instead of facts. How can these “experts” travel so off the mark? Don’t they do research?

Yes and no. They start with assumptions based on the myth and then find sources that match those assumptions, never checking on whether those sources are biased.

I once edited a book for a political science professor whose main sources were two notoriously left-wing newspapers. His chapter on abortion was ridiculously out of date and horribly misinformed.

It was obvious this “expert” had never talked to a pro-life person or ever considered anything but pro-abortion propaganda. Yet I’m sure he thought he had done his research, and his readers thought he knew his subject.

Seek the Truth

If you are the type of person who reads The DaVinci Code and thinks its descriptions of the Church are true, then you are probably content with the Galileo myth. Cloak and dagger tales and conspiracy theories and more thrilling than the truth and easier to find, right?

As Graney says, “But Catholics must seek truth. That is one reason the Vatican supports an astronomical observatory and thus participates in the search for scientific truths.”

Catholics are not conservative; we are steadfast. We follow the way of Christ and of science. If you want the truth, look to the Church.

 
 
 
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Sa super recorded na history ng egypt about pharaohs and family, kahit mga kabit lang ni Cleopatra may record. Bakit wala at all si Moses, na naging anak daw ng pharaoh sa legit history? Bible stories lang. Confirmation ba na BS yun?

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may nagsasabi recorded yung nagyari kay Moses and iba yung name na ginagamit nun kasi in egyptian language gamit niya unlike sa bible recorded in hebrew, and may nagsasabing possible na binura sa history ng egypt nun kasi disgrace yun sa linage, and marami proof din talaga may nagyayaring pagbura sa records in ancient egypt 

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